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Offline QQcumber

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« on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 06:36:40 »
Well the link to the Leopold is up, but...can't...order...

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php

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Offline Ekaros

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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 06:43:42 »
I think their range is lovely, contains everything I could desire...
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Offline calavera

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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 06:45:16 »
Patience, My Young Padawan
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Offline godofdeath

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 13:58:02 »
wahhhhhhhhhh

i want now
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Offline reaper

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 14:26:48 »
Brian's just teasing us with that one single pic. lol
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Offline pm_

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 14:42:14 »
What a tease...
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Offline Chojo31

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 14:46:40 »
haha I always enjoy ripster pic!
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Offline manfaux

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 14:51:53 »
EK needs to stop trolling us.
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Offline 3one5

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 14:52:07 »
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Offline wanabe

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 15:21:24 »
nice move to distract from the filco/KbCo/amazon announcement
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Offline whiteweazel21

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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 15:58:12 »
Yea...first it was late Jan/early Feb, now just "March". That Filco red cherry has my eye, it'd be even sweeter if it came in a 10 keyless version. Also, last "News and Update" on EliteKeyboards.com is dated August 23 2010, guess not much happening there..
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Offline whiteweazel21

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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 17:00:36 »
Quote from: ripster;303037
He never said January. And at this point I'm sure Majestouch regrets mentioning February, the shortest month after all.
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I can swear that on a sidebar on the site at one point it said something along the lines of "Late Janurary, early February for ETA". Pretty sure, because I remember checking the site in January for updates hoping I could buy myself a post Christmas present.

I have no proof, but Ripster...

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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 17:06:04 »
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Keep clicking the pic until something happens.
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That keyboard is still in good shape.  That skeleton must have been holding a FILCO.
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Offline BucklingSpring

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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 17:13:10 »
Inspecting every single bit and bytes of their site is something.
But does anyone here got enough balls to send a simple email
to: sales@elitekeyboards.com and ASK?

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Offline wanabe

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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 17:15:40 »
EK recently posted on GH that they were delayed to mid (?) march
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Offline Addy

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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 18:20:05 »
I'm guessing they are on the way...why worry?
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Offline zaerst

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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 01 March 2011, 20:02:02 »
I bet I will see my Red Poker before I see the Leos!
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 08:09:00 »
The fact that Brian added a page on EK is promising.  He's pretty well-known for being conservative on publishing release dates and the like.  I would expect they'll be available in the next week or two.
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Offline Engine

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 17:33:16 »
I got an email from EK yesterday and they said that "roll out" was due to happen at the end of this month.  Unfortunately, he also said that it would be officially anounced today, which if that means via email I signed up for or on their website, either way, it didn't happen.  http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold
Also, I called them two days ago and again today and only get "voice mail".  That was the "Support" line.  Why don't they have a "Sales" line instead of only having an email option?

Oh and one more thing.  EK states on the website that they are the only US distributor of the Topre and Leopold.  Is that true???
Added:  Um, I just looked on Amazon and they have the Topre 103 for $299.  Obviously more than EK.

AND, where is the link for EK in this forum???  I looked in the Venders forums and didn't see them listed.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 17:54:32 »
I'm not sure that an Amazon store called "User Side" counts as an official distributor. It's more likely they are simply an importer. But I could be wrong.
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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 17:57:25 »
Quote from: Engine;303706

AND, where is the link for EK in this forum???  I looked in the Venders forums and didn't see them listed.


They used to be in the vendor forum, but have left.  I'm not familiar with the circumstances.
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Offline jsvd

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 17:59:58 »
So, even if EK starts selling the Leopolds, will there be an EU distributor shortly after? EK's shipping price to europe is nuts.. + taxes to get the keyboard out of customs
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:02:07 »
I'm still not sure why you are so obsessed with more keys, ripster. I actually run out of things for keys to even do after 101. All of my keyboards are actually 102, but there is a dead key that just isn't used for anything after I set it to use the UNIX layout.

And that's counting the keys to the right of the F keys as "useful". Though since I remap them to macro keys, I suppose they sort of are...but still unnecessary.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:04:33 »
What about the 122 key terminal emulators? By your logic, those are the newest keyboards on the planet.

Honestly, I rather like the empty space between ALT and the Windows key on my keyboards.
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:11:50 »
Actually, I was simply pointing out the ridiculousness and lack of consistency of your statement, nothing more.
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Offline Engine

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:12:50 »
"Meanwhile, back at the ranch"...
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Offline theferenc

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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:15:58 »
I am a PhD student, and I find it rather offensive you would compare me to that idiot.
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:17:25 »
Glenn Beck wrote a book about idiots.

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Offline Engine

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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 18:26:46 »
A Cherry rep(Ed) emailed me and stated that MX Black was available in the US and that MX Blue and MX Brown would be available in April.  I would imaging this would mean "NOT" available until then for actual "Purchase" from EK.  EK did use the word "Pre-order" in conjunction with "March" in the latest website announcement.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold
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Offline Dr.Pepper

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 19:11:09 »
Should I just give in and order a Happy Hacking Keyobard? Before I die of growing old.
I mean they're only $200+ uggggh.
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Offline Engine

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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 19:12:28 »
By the way, "Ed" recommended Cherry G80 series boards w/the new added Blue/Brown switches and from http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/hub.aspx?wclss=A3

Ripster,
"G80" series boards sound like "Cherry" made boards and not "third party"(Leopold) mfgr boards w/Cherry switches.  Would you recommend them over say, "Leopold"?
I can see why maybe the Cherry rep recommended an actual Cherry board with Cherry switches distrributor.  http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/hub.aspx?wclss=A3
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Offline Corland

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 19:14:25 »
you can buy blues and browns from newegg right now (zowie and razer products, but cherry brown and blue nevertheless).

So yeah, the cherry rep is full of it.
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Offline Engine

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 19:21:20 »
Quote from: Corland;303805
you can buy blues and browns from newegg right now (zowie and razer products, but cherry brown and blue nevertheless).

So yeah, the cherry rep is full of it.


I'm suspecting that he was talking about Cherry made boards with Cherry switches vs a third party made board with Cherry switches.
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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 19:21:36 »
Quote from: Dr.Pepper;303803
Should I just give in and order a Happy Hacking Keyobard? Before I die of growing old.
I mean they're only $200+ uggggh.


Are you a UNIX beard or a coder? If so, yes. Worth every penny.

You could always get the same layout from Unicomp in a Customizer, if you prefer to spend less money.

I use both daily.
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Offline jpc

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 19:34:46 »
Quote from: Dr.Pepper;303803
Should I just give in and order a Happy Hacking Keyobard?


What do you want in a 'board?

For $200+ I like the Kinesis. It's truly (ahem) ergonomic. Never tried any topre though.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:03:01 »
So the price is up, $99 for tenkeyless. Not bad deal I suppose?
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Offline thebilgerat

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:04:29 »
man, 99 buckaroos seems a smoking hot deal, esp if the Filco caps fit.
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Offline EZjiji

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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:10:31 »
I hope the $99 price tag stays on the Leopolds in case I miss the pre-orders. What a great deal.
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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:17:19 »
Still no info on the full-size. At least this means I don't have to regret my Filco Majestouch Amazon purchase before it even arrives at my house. . . then again, those tenkeyless Leopolds are $40 cheaper than their KeyboardCo-sold Filco counterparts on Amazon US. . . that does make the potential pricing of the fullsize boards a bit worrisome for me ;)

Of course, if a post I read was correct, it could be a good long while before 104-key Leopolds are available.
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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:24:55 »
Quote from: Armando Penblade;303863
Still no info on the full-size. At least this means I don't have to regret my Filco Majestouch Amazon purchase before it even arrives at my house. . . then again, those tenkeyless Leopolds are $40 cheaper than their KeyboardCo-sold Filco counterparts on Amazon US. . . that does make the potential pricing of the fullsize boards a bit worrisome for me ;)

Of course, if a post I read was correct, it could be a good long while before 104-key Leopolds are available.


The $99 price will probably be a temporary thing. He saw the Filco's going up on Amazon, realized he needs to compete on price now (as opposed to being the sole distributor) and dropped his price to a level where even with shipping it will be cheaper than buying off Amazon (prime and super saver are your friends).

All things considered, I think the price difference on the PRE-ORDER tenkeylesses alone will be about $15-$20 in favor of the Leopolds, but only time will tell if that will be their standard price.

Like I said before, he might have to stay at that price to stay competitive, but it does seem awfully cheap, considering the cheapest I've heard of a Leopold board being is $105 US
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Offline krazymunky

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:25:43 »
gahh i have to wait till march 7th to preorder... stop teasing us!
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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:35:42 »
Quote from: krazymunky;303869
gahh i have to wait till march 7th to preorder... stop teasing us!


If you have Amazon Prime you'd have your keyboard by friday ;)

I'm quite intrigued by the Leopolds, though. I'd pre-order one if I had more money...someone managed to get into my iTunes account and buy $100 worth of iTunes gift cards. Coincidence, eh?
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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:49:42 »
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The $99 price will probably be a temporary thing. He saw the Filco's going up on Amazon, realized he needs to compete on price now (as opposed to being the sole distributor) and dropped his price to a level where even with shipping it will be cheaper than buying off Amazon (prime and super saver are your friends).

All things considered, I think the price difference on the PRE-ORDER tenkeylesses alone will be about $15-$20 in favor of the Leopolds, but only time will tell if that will be their standard price.

Like I said before, he might have to stay at that price to stay competitive, but it does seem awfully cheap, considering the cheapest I've heard of a Leopold board being is $105 US


Actually 99 has been the plan for many months, there were no knee jerk realizations;) In my mind that is a fair retail price point for imported "made in Taiwan" mech boards of this quality, with 1-2 middlemen, at this point in time. FILCOs are way overpriced because Diatec, quite frankly, over charges distributors. They buy in dollars, then resell in JPY at a very large margin, distributors are left very little room to move with the strengthening JPY and new competition. Das Keyboard retail is overpriced as well, but for the purpose of distribution and edu discounts, so they survive on their brand name it seems, for the time being.

Bottom line, anyone importing FILCOs into the US will not be able to compete on price. I told Diatec this almost a year and a half ago, this is why I filtered/tested their boards exhaustively in order to build the "value" proposition of the brand name; this is why I recommended the switch to FR-4, this is why I recommended greasing stablizers, key coating improvements, keycap changes, controller improvements, circuit improvements, eye-safe LED biasing, and many other issues which they have no taste for and resisted me on (because they have no engineers and no designers). It didn't help that they got greedy and overextended themselves internationally, but I digress...in any case it's nice they're seeing the light finally, but their margin is still a bit of an insult to distributors, and the RK-9000 is an embarrassment to their business savvy.
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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:53:23 »
how quick do you guys think they will sell out? I may not be able to order until the following week.
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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:56:04 »
Great info majestouch, very candid. You rock.
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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 20:59:53 »
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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 21:00:40 »
Oooh pictures!
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« Reply #47 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 21:03:23 »
Quote from: majestouch;303876
Actually 99 has been the plan for many months, there were no knee jerk realizations;) In my mind that is a fair retail price point for imported "made in Taiwan" mech boards of this quality, with 1-2 middlemen, at this point in time. FILCOs are way overpriced because Diatec, quite frankly, over charges distributors. They buy in dollars, then resell in JPY at a very large margin, distributors are left very little room to move with the strengthening JPY and new competition. Das Keyboard retail is overpriced as well, but for the purpose of distribution and edu discounts, so they survive on their brand name it seems, for the time being.



That's awesome! I'll definitely pick one up, then. Hopefully you can talk Leopold into releasing a Red or Clear as I don't like blues and I already have a brown.

Pleeeeeease?

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Bottom line, anyone importing FILCOs into the US will not be able to compete on price. I told Diatec this almost a year and a half ago, this is why I filtered/tested their boards exhaustively in order to build the "value" proposition of the brand name; this is why I recommended the switch to FR-4, this is why I recommended greasing stablizers, key coating improvements, keycap changes, controller improvements, circuit improvements, eye-safe LED biasing, and many other issues which they have no taste for and resisted me on (because they have no engineers and no designers). It didn't help that they got greedy and overextended themselves internationally, but I digress...in any case it's nice they're seeing the light finally, but their margin is still a bit of an insult to distributors, and the RK-9000 is an embarrassment to their business savvy.


That whole currency swapping is pretty stupid...but I digress. Seems you've moved onto greener pastures now, and at $99 for a tenkeyless I don't think I'll be able to withhold purchase for long...

In your opinion, is the price difference between Filcos and Leopolds warranted at all? Bad business decisions aside, is there anything in the Filco that has the Leopold beat or do you stand by your previous comments that they're on the same level of quality?

I think you should send me one for testing. I'm very impartial and have never tried blacks so I'd probably write you a rave review!
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Offline rustybarnacle

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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 21:04:19 »
I'm probably in on a cherry brown otaku, but I so wish the windows keys had no bubbles (and he only has the printed replacements, no non-printed makes me a sad panda).  I can probably live with the LED cutouts on the various applicable keys, but solid keys there would be ideal.  Who uses caps lock anyway.
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Offline Hak Foo

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 02 March 2011, 21:06:03 »
No chance somewhere in that Leopold catalog there's basically a white-ALPS ABS M1 or a full-size Zero analogue?

Although I've been riding this G80 for a year, and invested more than it was worth in replacement caps and spares (anyone need a mostly complete -8113 with clears?), I find more and more I hate the plasticky feel and light touch of cherry switches, and need some 75g sliders to kick my ass, but I hate big enters and small backspaces (so old Focus boards and the DSI 6600 aren't my dream)
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