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Offline db_Iodine

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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 06:11:24 »
I'm really hoping that the situation at Fukushima power plant doesn't get any worse.
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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 11:38:26 »
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I'm really hoping that the situation at Fukushima power plant doesn't get any worse.

You can say that again.
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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 12:22:06 »
Earthquake was upgraded to a 9.0. Nuclear situation severity was upgraded from a 4 to a 6.
Chernobyl is listed at 7.
There was another level 6 quake today near Tokyo.

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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 12:32:32 »
Nuclear radiation from Japan could reach US.
http://rt.com/usa/news/nuclear-radiation-japan-usa/
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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 12:58:28 »
The Finns are all running for iodine. Good thing I am Iodine.
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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 13:07:43 »
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Earthquake was upgraded to a 9.0. Nuclear situation severity was upgraded from a 4 to a 6.
Chernobyl is listed at 7.
There was another level 6 quake today near Tokyo.

KL is sending prayers from the USA.

Where did you read/hear about that?

The only information about Fukushima I can currently find is that the radiation levels have decreased.
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« Reply #56 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 13:36:00 »
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Earthquake was upgraded to a 9.0. Nuclear situation severity was upgraded from a 4 to a 6.
Chernobyl is listed at 7.
There was another level 6 quake today near Tokyo.

KL is sending prayers from the USA.


I read this yesterday too, but I can't find the article where I read it.

I had a suspicion that at the point when a reactor is flooded with sea water, that its not a good a sign.  Apparently, sea water is a point of no return.  The salts absorb neutrons and help to slow the fission reaction, on top of the cooling effect of the water.  However, the corrosion that it causes on the fuel rods will make them unusable (unsafe) for power production.  Therefore, the cores that are currently being cooled with sea water, are being cooled for dismantling.   Hopefully they reach that stage safely.
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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 13:50:18 »
There's a report on CNN, but, despite it's title, the severity of 6 is not official.

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« Reply #58 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 13:52:08 »
I think dismantling was a foregone conclusion days ago. A plant that has been compromised in so many ways doesn't stand a chance of going back online. Political ramifications are too great for "repairing" a nuclear power plant, safe or not. I certainly wouldn't sit idly by and watch them put Daichi back online if it were in my neighborhood.

The human toll is still unimaginable. I hope the aftershocks subside immediately.
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« Reply #59 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 13:54:09 »
You're right, its not official yet. I had read that on the Wikipedia page for the UN nuclear safety index but it was removed shortly thereafter.

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« Reply #60 on: Tue, 15 March 2011, 14:16:36 »
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And the Japanese have no incentive to quickly raise it.

They have no choice, you can't hide radiation.

edit: Having read the descriptions of the severity levels, level 5 seems bad enough. I think it could still be classed a level 5 even if it's somewhat worse than we already know.
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« Reply #61 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 07:54:34 »
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FUKUSHIMA, Japan – Surging radiation levels forced Japan to order emergency workers to temporarily withdraw from its crippled nuclear plant Wednesday, losing time in a desperate operation to cool the overheating reactors — the most urgent crisis from last week's devastating earthquake and tsunami.
The technicians were dousing the nuclear reactors with seawater in a frantic effort to cool them when they had to retreat in the late morning. The plant's operator ordered the technicians back to the site in the evening after radiation levels subsided.
In the hours in between, it was not clear what if any operations continued. Officials gave only sparse information about reactors.
But conditions at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant appeared to be worsening. White steam-like clouds drifted up from one reactor which, the government said, likely emitted the burst of radiation that led to the workers' withdrawal. The plant's operator reported a fire at another reactor for the second time in two days.


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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 21:57:57 »
so sad, but the most terrible thing is the nuclear disaster.


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« Reply #64 on: Wed, 16 March 2011, 23:34:47 »
Sigh.  I was temporarily relieved to hear that my Dad and his wife both were okay after the news of the quake and tsunami.  Now I am concerned for the radiation, but the only thing I find when I search is mostly concern about it tainting everywhere else BUT Japan.  Funny how the focus of concern suddenly shifted from the situation there to the home turf of whatever news agency was reporting about it.  How much distance is it to Tokyo from this nuclear crap?  Should I be urging my Dad to come back to the US?   Are they in imminent danger from serious radiation problems or is the bigger problem in Tokyo the lack of power?  Seems like if people in canada and out at sea are taking iod/pot pills, shouldn't they be doing that in Tokyo?  I am far more worried about Dad there than myself in Cali at this point...
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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 09:25:36 »
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Sigh.  I was temporarily relieved to hear that my Dad and his wife both were okay after the news of the quake and tsunami.  Now I am concerned for the radiation, but the only thing I find when I search is mostly concern about it tainting everywhere else BUT Japan.  Funny how the focus of concern suddenly shifted from the situation there to the home turf of whatever news agency was reporting about it.  How much distance is it to Tokyo from this nuclear crap?  Should I be urging my Dad to come back to the US?   Are they in imminent danger from serious radiation problems or is the bigger problem in Tokyo the lack of power?  Seems like if people in canada and out at sea are taking iod/pot pills, shouldn't they be doing that in Tokyo?  I am far more worried about Dad there than myself in Cali at this point...


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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 15:28:13 »
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Sigh.  I was temporarily relieved to hear that my Dad and his wife both were okay after the news of the quake and tsunami.  Now I am concerned for the radiation, but the only thing I find when I search is mostly concern about it tainting everywhere else BUT Japan.  Funny how the focus of concern suddenly shifted from the situation there to the home turf of whatever news agency was reporting about it.  How much distance is it to Tokyo from this nuclear crap?  Should I be urging my Dad to come back to the US?   Are they in imminent danger from serious radiation problems or is the bigger problem in Tokyo the lack of power?  Seems like if people in canada and out at sea are taking iod/pot pills, shouldn't they be doing that in Tokyo?  I am far more worried about Dad there than myself in Cali at this point...


It depends on the wind at the time if it is a serious meltdown IE : Chernobyl which I think at this point isn't really possible because the explosion would have to be pretty large to get the paricles high enough in the atmosphere
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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 17 March 2011, 17:09:13 »
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This is not quite helpful as it is 'news', not actual information.  Yet, this is the precise reason I am having difficulty finding real information as opposed to news reports since everything I click on is either about the reaction to the situation or so scientific as to be useless to me since I can't understand it.  I would like to find something written in reasonably plain English from a person of science rather than one of the media which has a tendency to flavor everything with as much sensationalism and emotion as possible as opposed to an objective and detached assessment of what the real situation would be. For example a comparison to dropping a nuclear warhead on that spot  - from what I could glean, there is some difference in the nature of the result, but I have no idea what that means.  

Ideally, I'd like a scale diagram of Japan and an overlay of the point of impact of the bombs that were dropped and the radius of associated damaging effect and the same thing done showing the plant and what those effects would be.  I don't care what people are actually doing or what they fear or what they say or whether the situation is actually under control or not - I just wanna know what if the reactors all go to hell, exactly what are we talking about in terms of acute radiation exposure and "minimum safe distance"  (as much as that may not really exist for all practical purposes)

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It depends on the wind at the time if it is a  serious meltdown IE : Chernobyl which I think at this point isn't really  possible because the explosion would have to be pretty large to get the  paricles high enough in the atmosphere

This is more what I am looking for, thanks.
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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 03:53:31 »
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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 18 March 2011, 20:51:07 »
That was PRICELESS!  "Ask and you shall receive..."

Thank you.
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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 04:24:40 »
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« Reply #72 on: Sun, 27 March 2011, 17:49:02 »
Gilbert Godfrey got fired by aflak for the comment he made about the earthquake and tsunami
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« Reply #73 on: Sun, 27 March 2011, 19:46:20 »
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« Reply #74 on: Mon, 28 March 2011, 09:15:20 »
The only surviving cherynobl cleanup worker survivor person said "run away" don't stay there to clean up, don't live near there just run away. I forgot where i read her comment and then relating her story to cherynobl, i'll try to find it.

found it
http://stephengyllenhaal.net/chernobyl-cleanup-survivors-message-for-japan-run-away-as-quickly-as-possible/

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 20:31:22 »
The Nuclear situation is now officially at level 7. Japan also just had another earthquake, at magnitude 6.4.