Filco spotted at MLG Dallas

[noodles256]

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/16/photos/27

Yes!!

[phillip]

i didnt even know that **** was going on

[noodles256]

i didnt even know that **** was going on

FILCO has been around for quite some time

[cometbus]

I hope "Vicious" is some kind of gaming team... they all look lost and/or terrified. (2nd to last pic)

[reaper]

Hmm.. I don't think that's a Filco but again, I could be wrong.  It doesn't have that Filco logo in front of the keyboard.

[Will]

Hmm.. I don't think that's a Filco but again, I could be wrong.  It doesn't have that Filco logo in front of the keyboard.

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The Filco full-sized doesn't have a logo in the front.

[reaper]

The Filco full-sized doesn't have a logo in the front.

I see.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I only use tenkeyless Filcos. =P

A Ducky logo just wouldn't inspire fear.

Ducky logo would've been hilarious. =D

[NimbleRabit]

It clashes so much with those headphones that looking at the picture hurts my eyes.

[manfaux]

Today's HuK vs Idra game is gem, 10/10 entertainment!

[Lpb45]

It clashes so much with those headphones that looking at the picture hurts my eyes.

Those headphones are godawful ugly

[Lpb45]

God I really hate how consoles tookover the fps world, its like trying to play golf with a crickett bat

[.XL]

God I really hate how consoles tookover the fps world, its like trying to play golf with a crickett bat

Have you ever actually tried playing fps on consoles? I don't mean play for 5 min and then run away. The dual analog sticks as well as the triggers are quite nice for fps. I stillprefer pc for most games, but there's the odd one I'd much rather play with a controller.

Filcos are the choice of gamers everywhere.

Even the rare African American ones.

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I'm pretty sure he's hispanic. I think that myth about black people playing starcraft2 is false...

[noodles256]

fps is okay on xbox 360. sucks on ps3

PC is where it is at though. COMPLETELY different level of skill and competition

Black Ops is a joke. why is that on the circuit

[Twitchy]

I'm not sure that a comparison of levels of skill and competition between console and PC FPS scenes is really that valid. It's like comparing badminton and tennis, the tools used and skills needed are different but arguably no harder to master, and I'm sure that the players are no less competetive.

[noodles256]

I'm not sure that a comparison of levels of skill and competition between console and PC FPS scenes is really that valid. It's like comparing badminton and tennis, the tools used and skills needed are different but arguably no harder to master, and I'm sure that the players are no less competetive.

Lol, Look up microsoft's study on Shadowrun where there was crossplatform online.

[Twitchy]

That says more about the equipment that the players had to use, nothing about the level of skill or competition.

[phillip]

Have you ever actually tried playing fps on consoles? I don't mean play for 5 min and then run away. The dual analog sticks as well as the triggers are quite nice for fps. I stillprefer pc for most games, but there's the odd one I'd much rather play with a controller.

console fps = ew

[Ekaros]

Have you ever actually tried playing fps on consoles? I don't mean play for 5 min and then run away. The dual analog sticks as well as the triggers are quite nice for fps. I stillprefer pc for most games, but there's the odd one I'd much rather play with a controller.



I'm pretty sure he's hispanic. I think that myth about black people playing starcraft2 is false...

I thought Indian(not American) first, but you might be right...

[noodles256]

That says more about the equipment that the players had to use, nothing about the level of skill or competition.

so you agree pc > consoles, ty

[Chobopants]

As a former hardcore Q3 and CS player I can only frown at the new school frat boys that play FPSs on consoles and think its legitimate. That's all I can really say on the issue. People who think otherwise are just living in a fantasy world. All you can really do noodles is ignore them. The argument isn't worth having as you are arguing against someone who is some baselessly wrong that logic fails them.

Ahem, anyway.

These are those heinous headphones that they wear:
http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/banshee.php

Gross Razer audio gear (I love their mice, but they should stick to what they know) with a stupid "APM lighting system" and built in EQ. All the pros wear them likely due to sponsorship/standardization of tournament equipment. At the GSL they actually wear canal-buds in addition to the Banshee to ensure that ZERO audience sound will reach their ears.

[NimbleRabit]

Haha, that APM lighting system is hilarious.  It's funny the things some people will use, and I can't blame razer for making products if there is demand for them.

[Lpb45]

I'm not sure that a comparison of levels of skill and competition between console and PC FPS scenes is really that valid. It's like comparing badminton and tennis, the tools used and skills needed are different but arguably no harder to master, and I'm sure that the players are no less competetive.

Honestly I dont get this comparison, setup a game between pc fps players versus console fps players.  The console guys would get destroyed.

[Lpb45]

As a former hardcore Q3 and CS player I can only frown at the new school frat boys that play FPSs on consoles and think its legitimate. That's all I can really say on the issue. People who think otherwise are just living in a fantasy world. All you can really do noodles is ignore them. The argument isn't worth having as you are arguing against someone who is some baselessly wrong that logic fails them.

Ahem, anyway.

These are those heinous headphones that they wear:
http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/banshee.php

Gross Razer audio gear (I love their mice, but they should stick to what they know) with a stupid "APM lighting system" and built in EQ. All the pros wear them likely due to sponsorship/standardization of tournament equipment. At the GSL they actually wear canal-buds in addition to the Banshee to ensure that ZERO audience sound will reach their ears.

Ya I come fomm doom/quake/quake 2 scene and the new school console fps **** just makes me sigh, it is what it is though.  I still remember how jealous I was when Thresh won a ferrari by playing Q1 and not understanding how someone could make a living by playing a game, **** was just diff back then I guess.

Also, Noodles tell me how your Blue poker is when you get it Im thinking about ordering one.

[noodles256]

Ya I come fomm doom/quake/quake 2 scene and the new school console fps **** just makes me sigh, it is what it is though.  I still remember how jealous I was when Thresh won a ferrari by playing Q1 and not understanding how someone could make a living by playing a game, **** was just diff back then I guess.

Also, Noodles tell me how your Blue poker is when you get it Im thinking about ordering one.

I am getting when everyone else is getting it lol. It will be awhile

[Twitchy]

so you agree pc > consoles, ty

I have no interest in getting into a juvenile pissing contest about whether one gaming system is better than another. I was arguing that your claim that the levels of skill and competition are greater in PC gaming than in console gaming was spurious. I see that you have decided to take the "lah lah lah, I'm not listening" approach. +1

Honestly I dont get this comparison, setup a game between pc fps players versus console fps players.  The console guys would get destroyed.

The point is that two apparently similar sports use different equipment and this equipment influences how the game is played. The skillsets may appear to be identical but they are not. There is no fair way of comparing the two that would enable you to say that one requires more skill (or is more competetive) than the other.

[noodles256]

I have no interest in getting into a juvenile pissing contest about whether one gaming system is better than another. I was arguing that your claim that the levels of skill and competition are greater in PC gaming than in console gaming was spurious. I see that you have decided to take the "lah lah lah, I'm not listening" approach. +1

LOL, no. If you looked at the study, it speaks for itself but apparently you didn't.

I guess I shouldn't have assumed you looked it up because you are a simpleton console gamer.

[.XL]

I have no interest in getting into a juvenile pissing contest about whether one gaming system is better than another. I was arguing that your claim that the levels of skill and competition are greater in PC gaming than in console gaming was spurious. I see that you have decided to take the "lah lah lah, I'm not listening" approach. +1

The point is that two apparently similar sports use different equipment and this equipment influences how the game is played. The skillsets may appear to be identical but they are not. There is no fair way of comparing the two that would enable you to say that one requires more skill (or is more competetive) than the other.

Siigh...people don't seem to understand this. Some people prefer using the controller, others prefer the keyboard. Personally, I prefer the keyboard for most games except fighting/racing games.

For example, I own Gran Turismo 5 and Marvel vs. Capcom 3 on PS3. On the PC, I have ~50 games. My PS3 is a Netflix box that I play MVC3 with friends on. My PC I game on. It comes down to personal preference. Most 'casual' gamers find consoles much easier to use, and more fun. More hardcore gamers use PCs. I think THAT is the real difference. If you want more casual gaming, play console. For more hardcore, hit the PC.

LOL, no. If you looked at the study, it speaks for itself but apparently you didn't.

I guess I shouldn't have assumed you looked it up because you are a simpleton console gamer.

Another PC gamer acting like the 'elite' of gaming. It comes down to preference. That's all I'm saying. And Twitchy is saying there is no accurate way to do an apples to apples comparison between those two types of gaming, which is also correct.

Stop acting like you're special and let people enjoy what they want to enjoy. 'Stop liking what I don't like!!!' is all I understand from your argument.

[Lpb45]

My main problem with the console FPS's is the fact that they barely even make any pc specific fps's they are all console ports because that is where all of the money is nowadays, just look at crysis 2, crysis 1 was the pinnacle of pushing a system when it came out and now crysis 2 is just a junky run of the mill console port.  

Atleast we have some good things to look forward to this year D3 (Please god come out this year), Portal 2 (Is this a port?), Darkspore, Torchlight 2, Dungeon siege 3, Battlefield 3 (Not sure if this is a port)

[Lpb45]

I have no interest in getting into a juvenile pissing contest about whether one gaming system is better than another. I was arguing that your claim that the levels of skill and competition are greater in PC gaming than in console gaming was spurious. I see that you have decided to take the "lah lah lah, I'm not listening" approach. +1



The point is that two apparently similar sports use different equipment and this equipment influences how the game is played. The skillsets may appear to be identical but they are not. There is no fair way of comparing the two that would enable you to say that one requires more skill (or is more competetive) than the other.

What I am saying is that it is easier and funner (In my opinion) to play with a keyboard and mouse, like I said earlier why play golf with a crickett bat when you can play with a golf club you know the way its meant to be played.

  They are not apprently similar sports they are the exact same sport played with differant controls.  To each his own but me personally I hate what they've done to this genre of games.

[Fwiffo]

Playing an FPS on a console is like playing with oven mitts on.

[.XL]

My main problem with the console FPS's is the fact that they barely even make any pc specific fps's they are all console ports because that is where all of the money is nowadays, just look at crysis 2, crysis 1 was the pinnacle of pushing a system when it came out and now crysis 2 is just a junky run of the mill console port.  

Atleast we have some good things to look forward to this year D3 (Please god come out this year), Portal 2 (Is this a port?), Darkspore, Torchlight 2, Dungeon siege 3, Battlefield 3 (Not sure if this is a port)

Very valid point.  

What I am saying is that it is easier and funner (In my opinion) to play with a keyboard and mouse, like I said earlier why play golf with a crickett bat when you can play with a golf club you know the way its meant to be played.

  They are not apprently similar sports they are the exact same sport played with differant controls.  To each his own but me personally I hate what they've done to this genre of games.

I agree. I don't play any FPS anymore. I long for the days of COD2 and Medal of Honor. People now playing Black Ops are saying it's the greatest game ever and I just shake my head, a tear falling down my cheek.

[strum4h]

I remember good ol medal of honor allied assault, return to castle wolfenstein and UTK2K4. Where did it all go wrong? Battlefield 2 lasted so long because instead of releasing a new game every year they made patches that added significant content. I know that there were many expansions that costed money for that extra content but they were like 15 dollars total for a bunch of new maps/vehicles/weapons.

[noodles256]

Very valid point.  



I agree. I don't play any FPS anymore. I long for the days of COD2 and Medal of Honor. People now playing Black Ops are saying it's the greatest game ever and I just shake my head, a tear falling down my cheek.

I played CAL for COD2, Best game of all time for me imo.

I definately don't think I am the elite gamer or even PC gaming is elite, but it is better than consoles for FPS hence the study I posted where autistic pc gamers beat the console elite.

derp

[Twitchy]

I didn't see you post a study, did I miss that? You referred to one but never linked to it or explained where it could be found. I found lots of talk about how HPs CEO of gaming Rahul Sood claimed that Microsoft had killed off cross platform gaming because PC gamers of average skill had consistently beaten console gamers. I couldn't find any decent source saying that this was because PC gamers had greater skill and not because of the differences in kit being used. Care to post me a link?

[Chobopants]

Playing a FPS Console Port on a PC is like......

your only option.

Haha, yup. That's why I just stick to RTSs these days and boot up Quake Live, CS 1.6, or UT2k4 if I'm really craving an FPS. They stopped making good FPS games pretty much right when Halo came out. It was the death knell of quality FPS games, oh well.

The reason why PC FPS players are so angry is precisely this one. Sometimes we even have to use arrow keys to navigate the menus because they were too lazy to add UI mouse support.

Hell, even our RPGs get raped. Try playing Fallout 3/New Vegas on a PC and try to tell me its not a horrific port. The mouse feels like its in molasses the entire time.

Don't even get me started on Dragon Age 2.

[Fwiffo]

I think that's sorta the point. A keyboard and mouse is a radically superior input device for FPS games.

[Lpb45]

I didn't see you post a study, did I miss that? You referred to one but never linked to it or explained where it could be found. I found lots of talk about how HPs CEO of gaming Rahul Sood claimed that Microsoft had killed off cross platform gaming because PC gamers of average skill had consistently beaten console gamers. I couldn't find any decent source saying that this was because PC gamers had greater skill and not because of the differences in kit being used. Care to post me a link?

I never said console players were less skilled, what I did say was that they are using inferior equipment and dumbing down the community as a whole as all PC FPS games nowadays are ports because the money is in consoles which I can understand if you are a game developer and want to stay in business.

[Chobopants]

Ya, fratty douches on XBL are where all the money is. I'm exacting revenge by making Facebook games so all the tasteless game developers who have no integrity will flock to Facebook from the consoles and stop dumbing down my FPSs with garbage. Also it brings people back to the PC. Double win.

I will kill your consoles by making games for your mom. Suck it, frat boy.

[Twitchy]

I never said console players were less skilled, what I did say was that they are using inferior equipment and dumbing down the community as a whole as all PC FPS games nowadays are ports because the money is in consoles which I can understand if you are a game developer and want to stay in business.

My post was a response to the one directly above by noodles256.

There's been a gradual drift towards making games more accessible and forgiving for a while now. Games adapt their difficulty to how well you're doing, hardest difficulty levels aren't quite so difficult. The challenge is less and less about working out how to beat a game, and more about not giving up. Doesn't matter how bad you are if you keep trying the game may well just let you win. It seems like developers are trying to prevent people from having a bad experience with a game i.e. the developer of "Generic Shooter" doesn't want anyone thinking "I'm not buying Generic Shooter 2 because that level I couldn't finish in Generic Shooter 1 made me feel like crap.".

I suppose it probably started with console games but it was only a matter of time before PC games were infected too.

[Chobopants]

I want a game to make me feel like its little ***** who can't do anything right and I'm always in fear of it curb stomping me. Games should not be played for fun. They are for overcoming a challenge or demonstrating superiority.

If people can hack away and golf and convince themselves that they're having fun I don't see why we can't have the same thing in video games.

[Twitchy]

Gone are the days when every game ended in failure and all you had to show for your trouble was a score. Perhaps it's an effect of the rise of online gaming. Single player is there to give you a good experience but you can still feel like a little ***** when you meet a beast online.

[.XL]

I want a game to make me feel like its little ***** who can't do anything right and I'm always in fear of it curb stomping me. Games should not be played for fun. They are for overcoming a challenge or demonstrating superiority.

If people can hack away and golf and convince themselves that they're having fun I don't see why we can't have the same thing in video games.

Play God of War 3 on Chaos mode then

[Chobopants]

Play God of War 3 on Chaos mode then

Old school arcade-style games are one of the few genres that are legitimate on a console.

Don't get me wrong, I used to love consoles. I still brag about the fact that I beat Super C twice in a row without a single death in high school. I just think that they should stick to what they're good at: arcade/action games, fighting games, racing games, platformers.

People always say "Hey look at Starcraft on the N64 it was so terrible RTSs should not be on consoles!" and I think the exact same thing about FPSs on consoles. It's just just doesn't fit, it was made for a different control scheme and people are opting to use an inferior one.

[Lpb45]

Play God of War 3 on Chaos mode then

Or Ninja Gaiden 2, my favorite action console game ever by a very LARGE margin.

[Chobopants]

Or Ninja Gaiden 2, my favorite action console game ever by a very LARGE margin.

NES or XBox?

NG2 on NES is my favorite action console game, though I really like what they did on the XBox as well for it. NG2 and SF4 (both of them) are literally the only 360 games I own.

[Lpb45]

I mean the updated version (dont get me wrong I love the old version too), ive had it for Xbox and PS3, I have beatin the PS3 version more times but I like the Xbox version better because of how much more gory it is.

[noodles256]

Ya, fratty douches on XBL are where all the money is. I'm exacting revenge by making Facebook games so all the tasteless game developers who have no integrity will flock to Facebook from the consoles and stop dumbing down my FPSs with garbage. Also it brings people back to the PC. Double win.

I will kill your consoles by making games for your mom. Suck it, frat boy.

I have had people come to Best Buy and buy those $50 Zynga card things.

[krull]

Haha, that APM lighting system is hilarious.  It's funny the things some people will use, and I can't blame razer for making products if there is demand for them.

 
I could have sworn that whole apm glove crap was an April fools joke. I might be wrong though.

[n12]

I want a game to make me feel like its little ***** who can't do anything right and I'm always in fear of it curb stomping me. Games should not be played for fun. They are for overcoming a challenge or demonstrating superiority.

If people can hack away and golf and convince themselves that they're having fun I don't see why we can't have the same thing in video games.

Totally agree. There are so few "tough" games these days though :/

[vincewchan]

Fruit Dealer uses a Filco Keyboard too.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=157888