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Offline RC-1140

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« on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 12:23:50 »
Hi,
I'm new to this Forum, as well as to the topic of mechanical keyboards. At first I want to say, it's a great forum you have here, I guess I'll be spending a lot of time reading through lots of interesting threads in the next days.
Currently I'm writing on a Logitech G11 with rubberdomes, but I plan to replace it with a mechanical one soon. I read through many posts here, and searched through the internet a lot, and the more I read, the more confused I was about which keyboard to buy. I read a little about the types of the switches, and came to the conclusion, that the blue ones or BS would fit me best. I discovered Unicomp, and I am really interested in getting a real BS board.

Now I'm really interested in the "PC/5250" version of the 122 Key Terminal/Emulator board. As far as I read it sends key combinations to simulate the additional keys on the left and the additional functional keys (sending "Shift+F1" instead of "F13"). I worked a little with AutoHotkey, and as it works with key combinations I think it would be possible to put some makros on some of the unused keys.

Anyway, would you recommend buying one of them? With the 55$ shipping to germany and the taxes it'd be around the price for a Razer Black Widow. But I feel like I really want the buckling springs!

Thanks in advance,

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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:11:02 »
As a keyboard they are excellent. There's some niggles you'll need to keep in mind though - the lock lights don't work out of the box. Also, the keyboard will not work with a standard PS/2 to USB adapter, as most USB adapters will not handle the scancodes of the extra keys. You can build a custom adapter to do this easily enough though.

Basically - you're using the keyboard for something it's not intended for, you'll need to play around with it a bit.
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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:16:32 »
But, shouldn't the "PC/5250" version send "ordinary" scancodes, and for the additional keys send key combinations?
Anyway, I would buy the USB version, so that wouldn't be a problem at all. If I read it right, the Unicomp boards don't support NKRO, so buying it with PS/2 wouldn't be necessary, would it?

Edit:
Thanks for the warm welcome ripster. The information in your link is pretty interesting, but wouldn't the PC/5250 version send combinations instead of different scancodes?
btw, afaik AHK works with key combinations great too, so it wouldn't need the different scancodes. (http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/Hotkeys.htm) But how about remapping the keys in GNU/Linux (I use Fedora 15 and Sabayon btw), would scancodes work better than combinations there?
Then I would buy the "5250 Emulator" version, my mainboard still got a PS/2 connector, so it would work too.
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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:22:39 »
The 122-key PC keyboards use a different set of scancodes to standard PS/2 keyboards. Pretty much any machine can support that scanset, but most PS/2 to USB adapters generally don't support it.

I'm not sure exactly what Unicomp does in the 122-key USB keyboard, I assume it's just a special controller.

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:28:16 »
Well, on the Unicomp store page it says: "Customers selecting the Emulator keyboard require software for supporting an IBM PS/2 and equivalent 122 key keyboard. The new PC/5250 is an exception, because it uses all PC codes and utilizes the standard keyboard driver." So it sounds like it would use only the standard codes, and combinations. Anyway I sent them a message yesterday and am waiting for an answer, calling them would be expensive from Germany.
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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:34:16 »
The Unicomp 122 key has 3 different versions, actually: 5250, 3270, and 5250/PC. It is my understanding that these are the Unicomp evolution of the 1397000. Specifically, when I called about them, Chuck told me that the 1397000 was actually the 3270 (unique scan codes on all the extra keys, but otherwise standard), the 5250/PC used the modifiers as described in the OP, and the 5250 was actually for specific hardware. Not sure how accurate that was, though. Sometimes I think Chuck just makes things up on the spot.

Somewhere on geekhack I've actually read that there is a jumper on the controller of these that actually switches it between the three modes.

Oh, and ch_123, these are the terminal emulators, not the actual terminal keyboards. They use standard PC scan codes, not set 3.

But, if you want a fully functional 122 key keyboard for a PC, there are several on ebay for less than a new unicomp. Search for 1397000. Also, I'm not sure what ch_123 is talking about in regards to the lock lights. All of mine (I have 4) have just worked. Though Ripster has one that didn't. Mine are all 1397000s, from different years. All send unique scan codes, as well.

You can definitely see the differences in construction in these better than in the 1391401s, though. The plate, for instance, has become visibly thinner as the years went on. All of them have a distinct amount of flex in the case though, as for whatever reason they are only held closed by 3 screws, rather than 4, so the sides don't sit flush the way they should. Not a big deal for me, and the Unicomps may have fixed that.

That said, I love mine. It's my default keyboard on both my work and home computers. I did switch the layout to be more similar to the HHKB, though, which I also use on the same computers.
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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:42:29 »
Now that sounds promising. Thank you very much! I think I will still buy the new one from Unicomp, as I really like it in Black/Metallic, and it's hard to find a 1397000 with a German key layout. Well, I want to learn the NEO layout anyway, but for that I need the european layout (with the big Enter button and the additional button next to the left Shift) and when visitors come to my place it's easier with the German standard layout.

But honestly, now you made me curious. What if I bought the Emulator version. Would I be able to remap the keys with AHK under Windows and under Linux? Would that give me some advantages?
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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 13:59:27 »
Quote from: theferenc;363479
Oh, and ch_123, these are the terminal emulators, not the actual terminal keyboards. They use standard PC scan codes, not set 3.


Odd, I thought they had. Certainly PCs are capable of dealing with set 3 keyboards.

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But, if you want a fully functional 122 key keyboard for a PC, there are several on ebay for less than a new unicomp. Search for 1397000. Also, I'm not sure what ch_123 is talking about in regards to the lock lights. All of mine (I have 4) have just worked. Though Ripster has one that didn't. Mine are all 1397000s, from different years. All send unique scan codes, as well.


I was referring to Ripster's one, I think I may have heard of another one.  I always thought it was very odd though.

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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 14:05:43 »
Well. I'm sure I want one now. But I'm still thinking whether the Emulator or the PC version would be better, because ripster, I don't see the problem with putting a macro on a "Shift+FCN" combination. But I haven't checked on remapping. But what for would I need remapping, what I can't do with macros? I'm not planning to use a Terminal Emulator, because I wouldn't know what to do with it, terminals were before my time.
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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 14:45:45 »
Actually, you shouldn't need to worry about the layout. Every one of these that I've seen is much closer to ISO than ANSI: large enter, small left shift with the extra key between it and z, etc.

First thing I do is convert it to UNIX, but that's just me. You wouldn't need to do that, obviously.

And ch_123, looking more at the page, it would appear they actually offer 9 models: 3 layouts, each with 3 distinct controllers. One is a straight terminal, one is an emulator, one is PC/5250, which I assume is the version that sends the modifiers for the extra keys. The emulator model in 3270 layout should be the 1397000, as Chuck claimed. The terminal models should be much closer to the actual terminal keyboards, scan code set 3 and everything.

Then again, with Unicomp, who knows. Love their products, love their service, hate their website. And the lack of communication can be downright frustrating.

RC, you should be able to get exactly what you want. I know ascaii was able to get a hybrid layout customizer out of them, so a german layout terminal emulator shouldn't be a problem.  And pursuant to what Ripster commented on, at least with linux and xmodmap, the shift modifier style extra keys won't work. xmodmap requires unique scan codes in order to work. AHK might be more capable in this regard, but from comments made here, I doubt it. And all a terminal emultator is in this context is a keyboard that, when connected to a PC, works as a PC keyboard, but when using a terminal client (think telnet), it sends terminal scan codes instead. Terminal keyboards themselves only send terminal codes, natively.
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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 14:53:33 »
IIRC, IBM had the 1396400, which was a 5250 version of the 1397000. Aside from keycap markings, it probably behaved in the same way as the '7000.

I'm not sure what the special PC/5250 model is, it could be something that Unicomp devised for a customer.
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 15:01:32 »
I really do think that's the version that sends the non-distinct scan codes, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 15:05:20 »
Oh, I mean in relation to old IBM stuff. As I said, it was probably something that Unicomp made upon request.

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 15:16:38 »
theferenc: that answer was just the thing I was looking for. I think I will stick with the 3270 Emulator with PS/2. When I change my mainboard it might become critical with the PS/2 to USB converter, but that's something I will have to face when it's necessary. At the moment my new mainboard has got a PS/2 connector, and I think I will keep it some years. Thanks for all your help guys, you really helped me on deciding. When I buy it, which will be around September I will post my experiences with it.

Hey, maybe I could even get a second set of keycaps, so I could have a real "NEO-Layout" keyboard, that would be really cool! Let's see if I can get in contact with them.
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 19 June 2011, 20:24:02 »
It's actually pretty weird to me that the whole of scan code set 1 isn't programmed into the USB converters. All of them exist in the USB HID spec, but for whatever reason, they are ignored. What's even weirder is that it isn't a space issue, since the whole matrix is present and stored, whether there is something in the spot or not. Just so weird.
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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 03:04:34 »
I can't be bothered reading all of this thread, but if you're talking about the 122-key Unicomp, then all is well. I use one daily and it is brilliant.

For all scancodes, don't get the PC/5250, as F13 sends Shift+F1, so that's no good as an arbitrary keymap.

You want to get the one marked `Emulator' (not `PC/5250', or `Terminal'). This sends scancodes which are the majority the same as normal PC keyboards and are out-of-the-box compatible with Linux (presumably Windows too, never tested); the extra keys send unique scancodes which need to be mapped, but this is a 5-minute job with setkeycodes under Linux. I would guess that a lot of PS/2->USB converters would eat the extra scancodes, but I don't use one. If you need USB, build one of the many AVR-based USB controller boards that have schematics published on the net (rump is popular).

The PC/5250 will work out-of-the-box, but the extra keys won't be much use as they send combination scancodes and that kind of defeats the purpose.
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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 03:30:49 »
Quote from: xwhatsit;363878
You want to get the one marked `Emulator' (not `PC/5250', or `Terminal'). This sends scancodes which are the majority the same as normal PC keyboards and are out-of-the-box compatible with Linux (presumably Windows too, never tested); the extra keys send unique scancodes which need to be mapped, but this is a 5-minute job with setkeycodes under Linux.
This is interesting. Makes me believe that "Emulator" with USB (offered by Unicomp) should be a good choice and solve the problem of PS/2->USB converters eating the extra scan codes.

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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 06:46:42 »
Ok, I do have a PS/2 Connector on my MB (Asus Crosshair IV Formula), so it won't be a problem using it. And that AVR converter looks really promising, as I have some experience with the AtMega Processors (but only using assembler, I never learned C, but this could be a good moment to do so), and it would be fun building one.

And about the "Emulator" with USB, I think it's just the lame store Unicomp uses, as the USB version is marked "PC5250", so I believe it's the Version which sends the combinations.

Gee, now I really want one. I kind of fell in love with it, but I cant afford it yet. :-( I'm still a student, and by this have no income. And the discovery of mechanical boards didn't make it better. I feel like I want to check out all the switch types, but even used ones are too expensive for me.
And at first I want to start with this buckling spring board.
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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 06:56:05 »
I don't have a problem selecting 3270 Emulator with USB in "pearl white". But I would just contact them, especially since you were saying something about getting slight customizations to the layout.
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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 06:58:57 »
yeah, you can select "Emulator" as the type, and "PC5250 USB" as Format, but I think this "PC5250" means, that you get the "PC5250" type board instead of the emulator one.

In the end, I think I will have to call them, even though it's expensive from Germany.
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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 07:09:20 »
No no.

Type: Emulator
Layout: 3270 Format (or whatever)
Cable: USB
Keyswitch: Buckling spring (whatever color)

I know, it's a stupid website, but that should give you what you are wanting, I believe. Have they not responded to your email? It's a problem with them sometimes.
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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 07:31:16 »
Oh, I'm sorry, I haven't seen the cable selector. Yeah, that really looks good. Thanks for pointing this out!

And, no, they haven't answered yet. Well, I'm not in a hurry, because, as I said, I will only be able to buy it in September (Birthday), so it's not urgent, but I would just like to know. Does anyone know, how long it would take for them to print the special layout (German NEO ergonomic), or whether it'd be possible to get the second keyset at all?
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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 09:58:08 »
So I'm not sure what the NEO layout entails, but if it's just a legend swap, you can do that yourself, as all the keys (of the same size) on a BS keyboard are swappable. If you want the controller to send those, that's a whole different issue, but they can often handle customizations like that. And, it likely won't take long at all, maybe an extra day? If that.

Edit: OK, went and looked it up, and it's just a key swap. So unless you want the controller to send that layout natively, you can just swap the keys yourself. It's super easy, and they all are interchangeable, as I said.
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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 11:40:35 »
Well, I was hoping to get the special characters, which are arranged in 4 additional layers printed on the keys, at least the second layer. But I'm not sure, if that's possible. By the way, here is a graphic, showing all layers: http://neo-layout.org/grafik/tastatur2d/neo20_Grau_Ebene_1,2,3,5.png

Anyway I am very grateful for all the help!
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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 12:10:47 »
Oh...they may be able to do that. I know they have APL keys sometimes, which have as many labels on them. You would definitely have to talk to them about that.

Good luck, and keep us posted!
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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 13:06:54 »
The uTron is the only staggered keyboard that makes sense, because it's the only keyboard whose left hand side is staggered correctly.
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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 18:09:24 »
Hi there,
I've got some news for you. Don has answered my E-mail, and recently I was talking with him a little. So basically the conclusion of this thread is right. The PC-5250 does send the Key Combinations, and the Emulator the Set 2 Scancodes. So I will probably get the Emulator. I don't know how it is about the Keycaps, but we'll see. Don sent me this Document about the PC/5250, and he allowed me to post it here, I think it could come handy for some of you.
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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 18:13:42 »
yeah, that's why I said I would buy the Emulator version. Btw it's not exactly the same file.
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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 20 June 2011, 18:28:02 »
I think you'll like it. They are my favorite Model M, even more than the Mini. Unlike some here, I do use the tenkey, quite extensively, so that just doesn't work for me. But the 122 key is ideal, especially if you make use of the extra keys for chords and text macros. xmodmap + KDE's built in macro functionality is quite handy.

Not sure if it's even an issue, but I do have an xmodmap file that remaps the keyboard to full on HHKB mode, uncluding embedded arrow key functionality. If nothing else, it covers HOW to use multiple layers in xmodmap, if you're a UNIX person at all.
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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 21 June 2011, 00:03:07 »
That sounds really interesting! I'm a Linux fan, and I'm not too experiences with xmodmap, so that would be helpful, at least as an example. The NEO Layout has the integrated arrow keys too, but I think it'll help me in programming it anyway.

Now I really want this keyboard as soon as possible. But as I said above, I can only afford it in September.
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 22 August 2011, 17:27:27 »
Yes let us know (Hi I am Ralph by the way), I also like this 122 keys emulatorboard. Looks like my not running 1394167.
For me as a noob, they create at Unicomp ps/2 but also usb.
But if they created the usb, then no items like the Rump will be needed and all codes will go well on the Unicomp emulator? Or is for full use the ps/2 version better? I am a noob so I like the most "complete"working 122keys keyboard.
I will use it on my Ubuntu (windows only sometimes).

Greetings.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 23 August 2011, 07:25:24 »
Here's my thread about my Unicomp 122-key. Lots of information, including key charts information. I did some further investigation after that thread ended, and here's a concise keychart for the left side of a Unicomp 122:

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Escape        Pause
Shift-Esc ShiftPause
Ctrl-Esc Ctrl-Break
Alt-Esc Alt-Pause

Pause        Delete
ShiftPause Shift-Delete
Ctrl-Break Ctrl-Delete
Alt-Pause Alt-Delete

PrtScr        Alt-F1
Shift-PrtScr Shift-Alt-F1
Ctrl-PrtScr Ctrl-Alt-F1
Alt-SysReq Alt-F1

Lwin        Alt-F5
Shift-Lwin Shift-Alt-F5
Ctrl-Lwin Ctrl-Alt-F5
Alt_Lwin Alt-F5

Application Alt-F3
Shift-Appl Shift-Alt-F3
Ctrl-Appl Ctrl-Alt-F3
Alt-Appl Alt-F3
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