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Offline jumpfroggy

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What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 13:53:07 »
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Haha I do see where you're coming from. At first, I didn't consider the browns crisp at all, especially since I came from blue switches, which are a lot more defined. I'd hesitate to recommend you a Topre keyboard simply because I feel as though it is even less crisp than the browns. I've seen it described as 'like typing on a clay tablet' which should give you some idea. Just based on what you sound like you want, perhaps you don't really need to spend that $250 in a Realforce. I think you'd be a lot happier trying the MX blues first.

Hmm... this is very helpful.  I know I should type lighter, but I'm so heavy handed that my fingers don't even notice the browns.  I still like them, but I know I need switches with more 'something'.  I think you've convinced me - try a blues board.  If I don't like that (or if I start waking up the baby with my racket), then upgrade to a realforce.  But this is good - it's the cheaper route anyway.  I think I can justify an MX blues purchase now (vs the extra $100 for the realforce).
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What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 14:00:15 »
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Hmm... this is very helpful.  I know I should type lighter, but I'm so heavy handed that my fingers don't even notice the browns.  I still like them, but I know I need switches with more 'something'.  I think you've convinced me - try a blues board.  If I don't like that (or if I start waking up the baby with my racket), then upgrade to a realforce.  But this is good - it's the cheaper route anyway.  I think I can justify an MX blues purchase now (vs the extra $100 for the realforce).

If you want to try a Topre switch there is a sinklist up and pretty much you can try out just one switch to get the feel of it.

PM SirClickAlot if you want to get on the list.

Offline jumpfroggy

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What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 14:10:59 »
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If you want to try a Topre switch there is a sinklist up and pretty much you can try out just one switch to get the feel of it.
PM SirClickAlot if you want to get on the list.
I'm on the list, but that stinkin' keychain is still in Europe last I checked.  I think I'm on a sinklist for MX blues as well, I don't remember.
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Offline mljs54

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 15:14:02 »
Bumping an old thread - how do you guys compare the Topres to "good" rubber domes when they're relatively fresh?  Asking because for MMO gaming (or other high APM keystroke games) and general typing, I've yet to find a Cherry switch that I liked more than the rubber domes on my Lenovo KU-0225 - I literally go through one of these every few months because they're so cheap and crisp when brand new, but the crispness wears out pretty quickly and you get the typical mush and play of crappy domes.  I'm just not a fan of Cherry switches other than Blacks for FPS gaming but obviously want a KB I don't have to replace every 2-3 months.

Should I give something like the Type Heaven a try?
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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 17:02:47 »
Very old thread :eek:

But anyway, I have used lots of different rubber dome keyboards, and only found a couple that I like.  But none of them compares to Topre in my HHKB.  The Topre is just buttery smooth with a hint of feedback and a little thock, whereas rubber dome is, ultimately, just squishing a rubber sheet.
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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 17:06:03 »
There are a couple of domes that come close to topre, but they all rely on bottoming out to complete the circuit on the membrane so most will not come very close to the way topre feels in practice. the closest thing i can think of is actually a proto-topre made by IBM in the 80s, late 80s i believe. haata has one :)
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Offline mljs54

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 18:26:00 »
Thanks, I'm debating giving the Type Heaven a try.  Quick question - is the keyboard profile (height?) higher than a Realforce?
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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 08 October 2013, 14:21:51 »
if you are keyboard fnatic, this keyboard is worth buying, if you are considering the price of topre keyboards and how much it costs to make them, its definently not worth it

Offline SNF

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 04:24:09 »
Smooth, soft, good, doesn't hurt my finger joints  :)

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 19:13:21 »
I've now been using my 55g uniform for about 3 hours, and there's no going back to anything else.  It's the exact switch feel I wanted when I started chasing different MKB switches.

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 19:16:43 »
I've now been using my 55g uniform for about 3 hours, and there's no going back to anything else.  It's the exact switch feel I wanted when I started chasing different MKB switches.



Aha - another convert ;)
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Offline mljs54

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 19:23:10 »
I've now been using my 55g uniform for about 3 hours, and there's no going back to anything else.  It's the exact switch feel I wanted when I started chasing different MKB switches.



Aha - another convert ;)

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Now I just have to try the 45g as well.

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 19:51:22 »
They feel like sturdier and better versions of rubber domes, or kinda like smoother lubed ergo clears.

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Re: What does a Topre switch feel like?
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:46:48 »
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