Author Topic: Why the Logitech Keyboard K120 is the best I've ever tried, and better than yours. (Read 80040 times)

SteaminWaffle · « **on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:30:21 »

Hello guys, my first post and thread here, so let's hope this goes well

Here it is:

It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today.

It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products.

The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2011, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering.

I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

Astounding · « **Reply #1 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:31:55 »

Definitely go with the Filco.

Also, this belongs in the reviews section.
http://geekhack.org/forumdisplay.php?38-reviews

DaemonRaccoon · « **Reply #2 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:32:27 »

What, why? No, please leave.

We like keyboards with switches here, not some lousy rubber dome.

redpill · « **Reply #3 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:34:08 »

needs more foam

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #4 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:34:31 »

Thanks for the input, but this wasn't really a review.

At least, it's not mean to be. I just wanted to share my experience, really.

Wibox · « **Reply #5 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:35:14 »

You're are all gullible fools who are easily parted with their money.

fullofenergy · « **Reply #6 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:35:38 »

Nice try, marketing rep from Logitech.

Astounding · « **Reply #7 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:36:05 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371294

Thanks for the input, but this wasn't really a review.

At least, it's not mean to be. I just wanted to share my experience, really.

It absolutely was a review... I'm not sure anyone would debate that.

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #8 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:37:53 »

Quote from: fullofenergy;371296

Nice try, marketing rep from Logitech.

Well, no... I just actually wanted to prove that a cheap KB can be a great one, such as the one I mentioned.

I admit I'm not too knowledgeable about KBs yet, but I joined to learn, no?

dannyp · « **Reply #9 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:38:57 »

Quote from: Wibox;371295

You're are all gullible fools who are easily parted with their money.

Trolls are successful here: Results 1 to 15 of 173
I expect you to do better, SteaminWaffle.

alaricljs · « **Reply #10 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:39:24 »

It's those bits where you declare that Logitech is the best KB manuf. and that this keyboard is better than all the rest. That's where you lose your audiences interest, this audience happens to be made up mostly of keyboard connoisseurs that prefer a form of mechanical switch.

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #11 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:41:10 »

Wow, 3 posts and I'm already being labeled a troll? Seriously?

You know, I came to this Forum because a good friend of mine recommended it to me, and I wanted a place with knowledge. I guess it's too easy for someone to simply come here, say something about a Kb, and suddenly I'm a troll.

Thanks a lot, really.

Astounding · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:41:32 »

The thread just comes off as a troll, more than an actual review. The only way it's not a troll is if the OP has never used a mech of any kind in his life. Which would be ok, and in that case welcome to GH.
This is a great place to start: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links

redpill · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:41:59 »

Quote

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2011, people.

Wow that sure looks familiar.

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:42:31 »

Quote from: Astounding;371310

The thread just comes off as a troll, more than an actual review. The only way it's not a troll is if the OP has never used a mech of any kind in his life.

I haven't.

Wibox · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:43:14 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371289

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2011, people.

gr8 feature. I personally use modern computers (and even laptops.)

peda · « **Reply #16 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:43:47 »

<----- confused

nobody sees that obvious trolling attempt there?

or you guys go with the flow of OP?

Astounding · « **Reply #17 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:43:52 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371312

I haven't.

If you live near Fry's they have two mech boards you can probably try.

redpill · « **Reply #18 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:44:23 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371308

Wow, 3 posts and I'm already being labeled a troll? Seriously?

Naw it was pretty obvious after just 1.

DaemonRaccoon · « **Reply #19 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:44:32 »

Quote from: Wibox;371315

gr8 feature. I personally use modern computers (and even laptops.)

No way man! XT DIN-5 forever!

(Sent from my iPhone)

Astounding · « **Reply #20 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:44:53 »

Quote from: peda;371317

<----- confused

nobody sees that obvious trolling attempt there?

or you guys go with the flow of OP?

Even if it's a troll, that still indicates they haven't tried a mech board. It's never too late to find your way.

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #21 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:45:27 »

Ok, I'm trying to get this straight.

I'm new to the forum, and I simply wanted to say something about the best KB I HAVE USED. I might have said in the title that it is better than yours, but that's a gimmick for attention, I didn't really know if I would get any replies.

I shared an opinion, and I already admitted to not knowing a lot about KBs, but I'm going to be treated like this, maybe I joined the wrong forum.

alaricljs · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:45:41 »

If you took a moment to read the forum instead of jumping in and posting BS, then you never would have posted this silly thread. Therefor if you're not a troll you need to work on your approach to a new forum (ie: READ for several days or weeks first).

hargon · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:46:14 »

Give it a try, then you'll probably know why people here don't like rubberdomes at all.

Astounding · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:46:35 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371324

Ok, I'm trying to get this straight.

I'm new to the forum, and I simply wanted to say something about the best KB I HAVE USED. I might have said in the title that it is better than yours, but that's a gimmick for attention, I didn't really know if I would get any replies.

I shared an opinion, and I already admired to not knowing a lot about KBs, but I'm going to be treated like this, maybe I joined the wrong forum.

In my above post I linked you the best resource on this site. The Mechanical Keyboard Wiki, by Ripster.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links

Astounding · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:47:33 »

Quote from: alaricljs;371326

If you took a moment to read the forum instead of jumping in and posting BS, then you never would have posted this silly thread. Therefor if you're not a troll you need to work on your approach to a new forum (ie: READ for several days or weeks first).

To be fair though, who are you to judge him on his forum approach? Is there some sort of certification for this.

dannyp · « **Reply #26 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:47:52 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371308

Wow, 3 posts and I'm already being labeled a troll? Seriously?

You know, I came to this Forum because a good friend of mine recommended it to me, and I wanted a place with knowledge. I guess it's too easy for someone to simply come here, say something about a Kb, and suddenly I'm a troll.

Thanks a lot, really.

Actually I didn't call you a troll but you're doing a good job, keep it up

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:48:32 »

Quote from: Astounding;371329

In my above post I linked you the best resource on this site. The Mechanical Keyboard Wiki, by Ripster.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links

Ok, thanks.

And sorry if I posted a "wrong" first post, but honestly I never got this kind of welcome in any forum. I simply thought that sharing something would be the best way to introduce myself to the community.

No need to label people.

redpill · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:51:32 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371332

Ok, thanks.

And sorry if I posted a "wrong" first post, but honestly I never got this kind of welcome in any forum. I simply thought that sharing something would be the best way to introduce myself to the community.

No need to label people.

Child please. You make a new acct with a forum name eerily similar to an OCN moderator, post a bunch of garbage about a logitech and how great USB is, blahblahblah. At least try to make it an interesting troll.

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:51:50 »

Thanks.

Once again, sorry if we got off with a rough start.

alaricljs · « **Reply #30 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:53:20 »

Quote from: Astounding;371330

To be fair though, who are you to judge him on his forum approach? Is there some sort of certification for this.

Seriously ripster? Time to grow up.

The Solutor · « **Reply #31 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:53:33 »

Quote from: hargon;371328

Give it a try, then you'll probably know wyh people here don't like rubberdomes at all.

People here don't like rubberdomes only they cost less than 200$ :redface:

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #32 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:54:31 »

I honestly don't know what you're talking about, but apparently, I've made a mistake joining this.

Too bad the internet likes to share bashing more than knowledge nowadays.

Astounding · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:54:36 »

Quote from: alaricljs;371338

Seriously ripster? Time to grow up.

Inflammatory post is inflammatory.

Astounding · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:55:09 »

Quote from: The Solutor;371339

People here don't like rubberdomes only they cost less than 200$ :redface:

Inflammatory post is inflammatory.

Astounding · « **Reply #35 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:55:41 »

Quote from: redpill;371334

Child please. You make a new acct with a forum name eerily similar to an OCN moderator, post a bunch of garbage about a logitech and how great USB is, blahblahblah. At least try to make it an interesting troll.

Inflammatory post is inflammatory.

dannyp · « **Reply #36 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:57:18 »

*walks into bar*

Man this coors light is the **** I mean it's the ****. Coors is the best ****ing brand in the universe your beer tastes like your moms sweat. Why would you pay more for cat piss? My silver can runs circles around your ancient glass cups.

Aw guys come on why are you guys calling me a douchebag? Back off, is that how you greet a friend?

Shut up.

Astounding · « **Reply #37 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:57:38 »

SteaminWaffle: Please try to ignore the trolls in this thread, when someone is this obsessed with keyboards and spends this much time on the geekhack forums all day they tend to become a bit socially awkward. Don't let that steer you away from the wiki or the forums though. There is a ton of great information to be had here, if you can ignore the children.

SteaminWaffle · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:59:25 »

Quote from: Astounding;371348

SteaminWaffle: Please try to ignore the trolls in this thread, when someone is this obsessed with keyboards and spends this much time on the geekhack forums all day they tend to become a bit socially awkward. Don't let that steer you away from the wiki or the forums though. There is a ton of great information to be had here, if you can ignore the children.

Thanks, looks like I should only post when I want to know something because apparently, the things a new member has to share are worthless to most of you.

The Solutor · « **Reply #39 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:00:30 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371341

I honestly don't know what you're talking about, but apparently, I've made a mistake joining this.

Nevermind they are just back from a couple of nervous days

redpill · « **Reply #40 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:09:15 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371350

Thanks, looks like I should only post when I want to know something because apparently, the things a new member has to share are worthless to most of you.

New members are fine. It's the troll threads from transparent alts like this that are the issue.

hargon · « **Reply #41 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:13:52 »

One simple Thread and he's a troll? I say: if he makes 4 and everytime is like Logitech advertising, then you can call him such...
He hopefully just got a bad start beeing kind of normal with Keyboards in such a nerdy forum. ^^

Astounding · « **Reply #42 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:18:55 »

Quote

Originally Posted by Astounding
SteaminWaffle: Please try to ignore the trolls in this thread, when someone is this obsessed with keyboards and spends this much time on the geekhack forums all day they tend to become a bit socially awkward. Don't let that steer you away from the wiki or the forums though. There is a ton of great information to be had here, if you can ignore the children.

Factual post is factual.

Quote from: kalrykh;371364

Inflammatory post is inflammatory.

Factual not equal to inflammatory.

Conclusion: your post is inflammatory.

Inflammatory post is inflammatory.

Astounding · « **Reply #43 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:23:55 »

Quote from: kalrykh;371368

someone's mad they got kb'd from the chan.

Inflammatory post is inflammatory.

Protip: I'm in the chan.

daerid · « **Reply #44 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:24:21 »

as who?

Astounding · « **Reply #45 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:25:29 »

Quote from: daerid;371371

as who?

lol'd

mmmty · « **Reply #46 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:27:52 »

Only time will tell. I'm keeping an eye on you

Trueepower · « **Reply #47 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:35:57 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371289

Hello guys, my first post and thread here, so let's hope this goes well

Here it is:

Show Image

It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today.

It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products.

The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2011, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering.

I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

Hey some people prefer a Pinto over a Mercedes. That's great you dig that board man.

Astounding · « **Reply #48 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:36:46 »

Quote from: Trueepower;371378

Hey some people prefer a Pinto over a Mercedes. That's great you dig that board man.

+1

dreamingftw · « **Reply #49 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:39:09 »

Quote from: Trueepower;371378

Hey some people prefer a Pinto over a Mercedes. That's great you dig that board man.

+2, if you're fine with the cheap kb and think its the best, don't get into mechanical keyboards... You'll just be wasting your time and money in this forum. Ignorance is bliss

keyboardlover · « **Reply #50 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:41:22 »

You're an incredibly active lurker.

The Solutor · « **Reply #51 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 13:49:47 »

Quote from: dreamingftw;371381

You'll just be wasting your time and money in this forum. Ignorance is bliss

I think that in 55 post arguing about the OP, there isn't a single person who actually tried that k120 keyboard, so in this way yes ignorance is a bliss.

Thinking that a rubber dome keyboard is surely bad and a mech is surely good, is more or less, like saying that a gasoline engine is surely better than a diesel one, which is blatantly wrong.

Forums should be made by passionate and curious people, not by talibans.

herewegomez · « **Reply #52 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:01:01 »

this is hilarious

redpill · « **Reply #53 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:15:14 »

Wibox · « **Reply #54 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:15:19 »

is this really already 5 pages long?

keyboardlover · « **Reply #55 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:16:07 »

This is why we need troll polls.

rodya · « **Reply #56 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:16:32 »

Quote from: ripster;371383

I burnt mine but this is no reflection on the OP's keyboard.

Nice photos. That is keyboard art right there.

Daniel Beaver · « **Reply #57 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:24:08 »

I hate Ripster's new avatar and ginormous signature picture. But I also suspect it is some sort of meta-joke. Which, incidentally, is what this thread has become.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #58 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:27:21 »

Quote from: Daniel Beaver;371424

I hate Ripster's new avatar and ginormous signature picture. But I also suspect it is some sort of meta-joke. Which, incidentally, is what this forum has become.

Fixed that for you.

redpill · « **Reply #59 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:30:21 »

Quote from: Daniel Beaver;371424

I hate Ripster's new avatar and ginormous signature picture. But I also suspect it is some sort of meta-joke. Which, incidentally, is what this thread has become.

Not really a meta joke, it's more like...

woebtz · « **Reply #60 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:49:27 »

I wouldn't mind having a rubber dome sub-forum here.

My parents have a non-ergo HP (?) keyboard that's rather comfortable to type on.

I'm also curious how the new MS Comfort Curve 3000 compares to the 2000.

redpill · « **Reply #61 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:55:29 »

testing..

confirming that IRC has moved beyond vBulletin

Wibox · « **Reply #62 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:58:39 »

Quote from: redpill;371437

testing..

confirming that IRC has moved beyond vBulletin

Test was sucessful;

15:55 < Geekrss> redpill in 19415 (Why the Logitech Key): testing.. confirming that IRC has moved beyond vBulletin

Cheers :tea:

redpill · « **Reply #63 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 15:16:48 »

It's a thing of beauty, thx Wibox

redpill · « **Reply #64 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 15:21:38 »

Miami Jai Alai Matinee Game 11 About to Begin, Place your bets!

noodles256 · « **Reply #65 on:** Fri, 01 July 2011, 16:40:05 »

smokinwaffle's new name is funny

woody · « **Reply #66 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 03:49:24 »

Quote from: ripster;371383

(Logitech)
And the keys last like forever because of the clearcoat.

Guess I wasn't lucky then. Or mine didn't have clearcoat.

gilgam · « **Reply #67 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 05:11:29 »

Irony maybe ?

woody · « **Reply #68 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 05:55:15 »

Does double irony count?

The Solutor · « **Reply #69 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 05:56:46 »

For many users here Irony is just a Swatch model :-)

woody · « **Reply #70 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 05:58:12 »

Proper Irony:

cactux · « **Reply #71 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 06:03:08 »

Seriously, what kind of reception where you expecting after a title like "Why the Logitech Keyboard K120 is the best I've ever tried, and better than yours."
How can you say better than yours, if you have not even try half of the mechanical boards out there?.

gilgam · « **Reply #72 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 06:19:10 »

Quote from: woody;371822

Does double irony count?

So i feel stupid :-D ...

The Solutor · « **Reply #73 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 06:23:10 »

Quote from: cactux;371825

Seriously, what kind of reception where you expecting after a title like "Why the Logitech Keyboard K120 is the best I've ever tried, and better than yours."
How can you say better than yours, if you have not even try half of the mechanical boards out there?.

In newspapers titles are made to catch the eye, and usually aren't reflecting the contents of the article, I think this is what he did, (I must add successfully).

woody · « **Reply #74 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 06:41:46 »

Quote from: gilgam;371830

So i feel stupid :-D ...

Nah, my French Comrade. It's just friendly fun.
Opening a jar of Moutarde de Dijon in your honor.

cactux · « **Reply #75 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 06:42:26 »

Quote from: The Solutor;371831

In newspapers titles are made to catch the eye, and usually aren't reflecting the contents of the article, I think this is what he did, (I must add successfully).

You are 100 % right.

TacticalCoder · « **Reply #76 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 09:58:13 »

Quote from: The Solutor;371397

Forums should be made by passionate and curious people, not by talibans.

What's next after calling people talibans: implying GeekHack member are nazis?

Common The Solutor, I'm sure you can do it. The way you do it is so subtle: it starts with a statement pretending that you're smart, intelligent, knowledgeable and open-minded and then it ends up insulting other members (because surely even should you be so smart, intelligent, knowledgeable and open-minded would give you the right to call other talibans no!?)

Maybe you should try to find a forum dedicated to healthy food and then when a new user ask if eating Mc Donalds everyday is healthy and when forum regulars answer him that it's not, you could then jump in with that exact same sentence of yours: "forums should be made by passionate and curious people, not by talibans".

Your "algorithm" seems to work like this:

IF post says typical rubber dome are not good compared to other switches OR post says touch-typing is a good skill to learn
THEN
write "rubber dome rocks" OR "touch-typing sucks"
write "you're close-minded, unlike me"
write "hence you're all a bunch of $RANDOM_INTENTIONALLY_PROVOCATIVE_WORD"
FI

In this case it was the "rubber dome rocks" case and the $RANDOM_INTENTIONALLY_PROVOCATIVE_WORD happened to be "taliban".

So what's next? Calling GeekHack users nazis?

TacticalCoder · « **Reply #77 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 10:41:26 »

Quote from: ripster;371912

Around here though you get called a "troll" for trying to get to the bottom of an issue.

Damn... How things have changed. I remember when the Internet trolls basically came to life: on the Usenet newsgroups back in the days. They were the ones using every single little dirty intellectual mind trick and every logical fallacy they could find to derail threads into heated arguments and end up calling other "nazis" ("talibans" wasn't as common back then) ; )

One of the trollbook 101 trick was pushing people to the limit, getting insulted, then pointing out that the other person lacked education because he called names.

Oh well, Geek Hack's "Ignore list" is Usenet's "bozo bin" (aka kill file). Fun times these were.

The Solutor · « **Reply #78 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 10:45:05 »

Quote from: TacticalCoder;371910

What's next after calling people talibans: implying GeekHack member are nazis?

Why not, if the discussion need it ? Linus torvalds called "interface nazis" some members of the gnome team, and was just right.

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Common The Solutor, I'm sure you can do it. The way you do it is so subtle: it starts with a statement pretending that you're smart, intelligent, knowledgeable and open-minded and then it ends up insulting other members (because surely even should you be so smart, intelligent, knowledgeable and open-minded would give you the right to call other talibans no!?)

For the record you are the one who insulted and blacklisted me just because i said that I'm not interested in touch-typing.

World is full of fake virgins, don't add yourself to the list.

I was unaware that a good rubber dome keyboard could be dangerous for the health, I was sure that a good keyboard was just a good keyboard, no matter if mechanical or not, as a good food is just a good food, no matter If Italian or not.

Thanks for the information anyway, I feel so ignorant now :becky:

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.Your "algorithm" seems to work like this:

Unlike you I'm aware that the world is analog, I'm well aware that love for A doesn't imply hate for B.

For you a good keyboard is something to talk about only if expensive, elitary, uncommon.

Your problem is not to have a good input device, your problem is impose yourself above the "proletariat", no matter if because you have a keyboard that only the 0.001% of the users have, or because you have a skill shared by just 5%.

You have also to justify yourself for the amount of money spent.

I don't have such problem i learn (and I learned) whatever is on my interest, and I buy whatever I like, if I can. I don't need justifications and I don need approval by other people.

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So what's next? Calling GeekHack users nazis?

Again, try to understand that world is analog. Geekack users are not a standardized kind of humans, they have a vast range of skills, preference, likings and so on, and they came from different countries.

So, I'll never referring something to the whole community, I speak with facts when they are available, I politely post my preferences when opinions matters, and I speak with the person or the people who are discussing with me. If they act like a nazi, I call them nazi.

This is never happened and I didn't it. Simple as that.

redpill · « **Reply #79 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 11:14:51 »

Quote from: ripster;371912

Why is everyone so touchy lately?

Uhm, lol?

The Solutor · « **Reply #80 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 11:15:38 »

Quote from: ripster;371935

I like scissor switches better than rubber domes. Even the IBM Rubber Domes are kinda wobbly for me.

It depends.

Funnily enough the first thing I noticed when I touched my first cherry board after years was the wobbliness of the keys.

theferenc · « **Reply #81 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 11:25:11 »

Actually, most rubber dome keyboards are bad for finger health. Pounding the back plate of the keyboard in order to actuate the key results in damage to the joints. Short throw chicklet keys are the worst in this regard, as the force required to collapse the dome is hard to dissipate in the short space allotted.

There's a reason that RSI suffers often migrate to mechanical keyboards on the advice of a doctor.

hyperlinked · « **Reply #82 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 11:44:21 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371350

Thanks, looks like I should only post when I want to know something because apparently, the things a new member has to share are worthless to most of you.

I know you meant this facetiously, but that's actually a very good idea until you know the culture of the community you're walking into. I'm an old school Internet die hard going back to the days of Usenet and there was a general rule back then that people needed to read and observe what everyone else was posting for at least a few weeks before they made their first post. The reason was that newbies typically make the same tired points that have already been discussed ad infinitium on that board and newbies typically ask and re-ask the same questions that people get tired of answering.

So yes... wait until you know more before jumping in or you will seem like a troll whether you intend to be one or not.

Ollum · « **Reply #83 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 12:07:31 »

Logitech keyboards are great.....

until u get a mechanical keyboard!

mmmty · « **Reply #84 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 12:14:19 »

Yeah, the "better than yours" part is what's pissing people off. The "the best I've ever tried" part doesn't help either. Maybe he should try more. One of my keyboards has got to be better than his Logitech K120. I had a Logitech keyboard and it died (mushy keys) after about a year. If I ever buy another Logitech keyboard, it's going to be a mechanical one.

hoggy · « **Reply #85 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 12:29:30 »

SteamingWaffle

I think you've been got out mainly because of an accident of bad timing - just after the "you're all gullible fools" post. Usually things are a bit more laid back here - quite often there are posts asking for a better keyboard for gaming or coping with RSI, or really fast typing, and so on, and these posts are typically answered with huge patience by the members here.

The review wasn't that bad, but the other reason for your reception is that you've misjudged the audience, by praising elements of the 'board that we see as adequate, and ignored features that interest us, such as keycaps (laser engraved, pad printed, dye sub or doubleshot, abs or pom), adjust-ability (okay, not that many of us are interested in the legs), construction, key rollover... and then commit heresy about proclaiming logitech as the best keyboard manufacturer (they do make some nice remote controls though).

If you're still interested, have a look at the forum and try to find out what keyboard you could get next. Trust me, we'll help you find something you like. It might take a few boards, but hey, that's life.

daerid · « **Reply #86 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 14:15:40 »

Quote from: ripster;372015

You'll see this when the Pokers start arriving.

The pokers have been arriving. And I do see what you mean. The poker isn't the highest quality keyboard, I'd expect to pay $60 for it. Not $100. But I still love mine.

The Solutor · « **Reply #87 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 16:39:58 »

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Actually, most rubber dome keyboards are bad for finger health.

Personally I have great doubts that the hard landing of an unmodded cherrys boards could be better than the soft landing of RD.

BTW w/o speaking about a specific rubber dome v.s. a specific mech board, the whole argument of keyboard and health relations is more or less pointless.

redpill · « **Reply #88 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 17:17:13 »

The problem I have with most rubber domes is that the peak force required comes very early and then once the dome starts to collapse all resistance vanishes and you wind up bottoming out every time. And the rubber is thin on them so it doesn't cushion your landing much. As a result you bottom out every single keystroke (because basically you have to in order to get actuation with any amount of speed). With plate/PCB mounted cherries, you might bottom out sometimes and get the same harshness, but with a longer stroke and reasonable tactile feedback you can avoid bottoming out at least some of the time and still get actuation.

Topres address this with the unique shape of the rubber cup, which gives better feedback/actuation, softer landing due to thicker-feeling rubber, and better spring back.

The Solutor · « **Reply #89 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 17:28:40 »

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The problem I have with most rubber domes is that the peak force required comes very early and then once the dome starts to collapse all resistance vanishes and you wind up bottoming out every time.

True for many RD (maybe "most" is a too strong word) while some are almost linear, some are softer than a brown switch and so on, is impossible to generalize when world is full of rubber domes, of any price, of any age from 1984 to today and with a zillion of variations.

Anyway, true or not, many users after decades of RD usage will still use the mechs in the same way especially when they have a RD at office and a mech at home.

Dali · « **Reply #90 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 21:16:48 »

Quote from: ripster;372015

Like I said, you should all take apart a Logitech $10 special sometime. Better plastics and Industrial Engineering design than many a Chinese Clone Keyboard. Upfront engineering and tooling costs are amortized over jillions of units made.

You'll see this when the Pokers start arriving.

Not sure if counter-trolling. No way a Logitech rubber dome could feel better than a Cherry MX based board. Build quality is debatable though.

Mr. Perfect · « **Reply #91 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 21:38:57 »

Nah, he didn't say Cherry. He means other cheapo rubber dome boards. As bad as we may think Logitech boards are, there are some out there that make you really wonder...

On the other hand, our white box PCs at work have actually been coming with these K120s. Please do yourself a favor and try some more boards. Even Logitech's other keyboards are significantly better built then these. The K120 is thin with flexible plastic, has shallow keys somewhere between a standard desktop and a laptop, and has a weedy little USB cable. You can twist it apart easily in your hands. I've been leaving people with their old rubber dome boards because I'm just not impressed with these things.

The Solutor · « **Reply #92 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 22:08:04 »

Quote from: Dali;372239

Not sure if counter-trolling. No way a Logitech rubber dome could feel better than a Cherry MX based board.

Try a logitech illuminated or a k800 end then tellme if any logitech can't keep up with any cherry mx.

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Build quality is debatable though.

Logitech build quality is the quality expected from a big company, not so noble materials but evenness trough the production, and trough the single keys.

Likely just cherry itself can be compared to logitech in that matter from the whole outlook of the cherry board makers.

Also the technical support is unknown to the semi artisanal production of most of the cherry boards maker, Razer included.

Zet · « **Reply #93 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 22:23:03 »

@OP:

I would said is not bad for the price/looks, and I'm sad that this is the best you tried, since there is way better things out there. I doubt you have a clear idea of what other keyboards people use here, not even I do, but I'm certain of something, at least I'm sure I own a keyboard I and other GH'ers would consider in other league than yours :x

keyboardlover · « **Reply #94 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 22:23:59 »

@OP - what you are saying is actually impossible, because nothing is better than a keyboard with ergo clears.

audioave10 · « **Reply #95 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 22:55:50 »

I found the Logitech Illuminated keyboard to be good quality if you are a "light touch typist". Sadly...I was not.

The Solutor · « **Reply #96 on:** Sat, 02 July 2011, 23:41:01 »

Quote from: audioave10;372282

I found the Logitech Illuminated keyboard to be good quality if you are a "light touch typist". Sadly...I was not.

No, light is inside the board, no need to add more...:lol:

Jokes aside, is clearly a different feeling, especially if coming from a model M, but is still a pleasurable board, for people like me who love a definite tactile feedback coupled with relatively soft keys.

I had to mod my board to ergo clears to have something lookalike from a mx board.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #97 on:** Sun, 03 July 2011, 00:19:44 »

@Zet

I still think you need to try some other boards too. A light linear switch for your only one has always seemed odd to me. But then, I would never like any kind of linear board. I have not owned or typed on one, but I have removed the click/tactile leaf from alps and the click arm from space invaders. No way would I want a whole board like that.

But yeah, I've never met a rubber dome I liked (after getting handed my first acer mech board 2-3 years ago). When I bought my first rubber dome that would be mine alone, I tried all the ones in the store. I actually preferred the $5 inland branded board above all the microsoft, logitechs and everything else the store had. I probably need to try one of the keytronics or NMB right touches of the world some time, but till then I very much doubt I would prefer one of those to any of the mech boards in my collection.

keyb_gr · « **Reply #98 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 14:32:44 »

While I have been recommending the Logitech Classic Keyboard 200 as a cheapie that feels good, I would never claim it's da BEST evar. The layout isn't quite standard, and I don't think it would last very long under heavy use - they are, after all, built to a price. (Haven't used a K120 yet. Reviews at Amazon have been pretty good so far, but as always take these with a grain of salt.)

Let's recap why people traditionally ended up here. They might have been sick of going through cheap (or worse yet, expensive) "rubble domes" within less than 2 years, or even months, due to either outright failure or mushiness. Some were looking for better feel, others for better durability, and yet others for better ergonomics - or all three. In other words, a quality input device that suits the user's needs (and meets a little more than the absolute minimum requirements if the budget allows).

Some people will never manage to wear out a cheapie (which tend to be more rugged than their fancier gaming cousins anyway), while others definitely benefit from a quality board. (Ripster's son used to tear through Logitech cheapies in a matter of months, but AFAIK he still is on his first Unicomp.) Now quality rubber domes are pretty much a thing of the past, which leaves mechanical and semi-mechanical boards. It is important to know that even those are not infallible, and it still is possible for manufacturers to cheap out in annoying ways.

You will always get FOTM and fashion phenomena. It's a natural byproduct of the whole customization idea. People who only care about this aspect could basically buy anything, but of course they are most likely to go with boards for which tweaking options (fancy keycaps etc.) already exist.

8_INCH_FLOPPY · « **Reply #99 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 16:32:35 »

That first post is equivalent me saying that I'm the best basketball player in the world because I just beat my 3 friends at a game of horse.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #100 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 16:34:02 »

Yeah, I would never have started had I not been handed one.

My rubber dome board was a $5 off brand and even though I game and all, it just never really seemed to change from the day I got it. Used it 3-4 years and it still has almost all the lettering and no shininess (one or two letters have some edges of them starting to go away.

Someone was switching from desktop to laptop and told me that I could have all the stuff the old one was using. I wanted to keep the keyboard just because it was PS/2 (and that is easier to use for dual boot menus, etc). I happened to poke at it, noticed that it clicked and decided to try it. 2-3 years of using it as my main board and here I am. Now I have ~10 boards (Including repeats/backups). Have montereys to get at some point still, and a few others just for projects not really for adding anything new to my collection.

arc2 · « **Reply #101 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 18:33:24 »

100 % WUM, no doubt about it.

Quote

The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

Oh really, nice xD.

In saying that I enjoyed reading the post, made me smile, thanks.

The Solutor · « **Reply #102 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 18:55:53 »

Quote from: keyb_gr;373225

Let's recap why people traditionally ended up here. They might have been sick of going through cheap (or worse yet, expensive) "rubble domes" within less than 2 years, or even months, due to either outright failure or mushiness.

Again is a god thing to not generalize in either side. I bet real money that on the consistence during the life of a board most of RD will outlast most of the cherry tactile board.

I mean that a cherry brown or clear and even blue will become almost linear well before even the cheapest RD will become mushy.

Obviously linear boards are different, BS are different (i'm not an expert of alps), and mushiness is not the only problem that affects RDs.

What I mean is that considering mech and not as two compact blocks is just wrong, is just like arguing about Americans (i mean the whole continent) v.s. Europeans when there are people from Greece or from Finland or from Alaska or Chile.

Astounding · « **Reply #103 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 19:09:44 »

Quote from: The Solutor;373409

Again is a god thing to not generalize in either side. I bet real money that on the consistence during the life of a board most of RD will outlast most of the cherry tactile board.

I mean that a cherry brown or clear and even blue will become almost linear well before even the cheapest RD will become mushy.

Obviously linear boards are different, BS are different (i'm not an expert of alps), and mushiness is not the only problem that affects RDs.

What I mean is that considering mech and not as two compact blocks is just wrong, is just like arguing about Americans (i mean the whole continent) v.s. Europeans when there are people from Greece or from Finland or from Alaska or Chile.

But.... the cheapest RD is mushy from the start.

noodles256 · « **Reply #104 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 19:09:54 »

Quote from: The Solutor;373409

Again is a god thing to not generalize in either side. I bet real money that on the consistence during the life of a board most of RD will outlast most of the cherry tactile board.

I mean that a cherry brown or clear and even blue will become almost linear well before even the cheapest RD will become mushy.

Obviously linear boards are different, BS are different (i'm not an expert of alps), and mushiness is not the only problem that affects RDs.

What I mean is that considering mech and not as two compact blocks is just wrong, is just like arguing about Americans (i mean the whole continent) v.s. Europeans when there are people from Greece or from Finland or from Alaska or Chile.

whats a god thing? is it like potatos?

mmmty · « **Reply #105 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 19:28:11 »

I think he meant to type 'good' but the 'O' key was mushy causing typo.

The Solutor · « **Reply #106 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 19:42:12 »

Quote from: Astounding;373424

But.... the cheapest RD is mushy from the start.

Not really, i cooperated with a company that sold (an sell) assembled PCS for 12 years, usually clients were small companies that were used to choose the cheapest accessories, so keyboars were almost always first price ones from random [no]brands, the usual cost was from 2.5 to 6 euro and while some of them were just horrible, others were good or very good keyboards.

There is no mandatory relation between price and quality.

The Solutor · « **Reply #107 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 19:43:00 »

Quote from: noodles256;373425

whats a god thing? is it like potatos?

wkml 2 hg

daerid · « **Reply #108 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 20:02:43 »

As far as rubber domes outlasting mech boards, I'm calling BS on that one. I've worn out several a rubber dome board in a matter of months, with the keys becoming completely mushy and unresponsive, whereas I got my mom a AT101W back in 2001 that still feels exactly the same, ten years later. I can't comment on cherry switches, but I can vouch for alps and buckling spring far, far outlasting rubber dome boards, from personal experience.

The Solutor · « **Reply #109 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 20:08:41 »

Quote from: daerid;373461

As far as rubber domes outlasting mech boards, I'm calling BS on that one.

If you read what I wrote I already mentioned BS as unbreakable, i think four time in this very tread.

Although mechanical as cherry boards they are in different leagues.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #110 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 20:17:22 »

I've encountered Cherry boards from the late 80's that still felt pretty much as expected. A slight bit softer from wear but only barely. I've also had rubberdomes that felt like it was full of overcooked pasta after only a few months...

TacticalCoder · « **Reply #111 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 20:18:33 »

Quote from: daerid;373461

...but I can vouch for alps and buckling spring far, far outlasting rubber dome boards, from personal experience.

Can't say for ALPS (found an ALPS board by chance in my basement but never really used it) but I second that for BS: I've got so many old RD that I threw around because they became unusable while all my Ms (including some that I bought used and that used for many years) do still click happily : )

theferenc · « **Reply #112 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 20:28:08 »

What brought me to the Model M in the first place was wearing out 4 Sun Type 6 USB keyboards in a little over a year. I just couldn't keep that pace up, as it was too expensive.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #113 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 20:33:13 »

The acer switch (alps compatible for all keys except stabilizers) board I got handed is made in 1994. It was the main keyboard of the person who gave it to me for possibly that entire time. It has also not changed in the 2-3 years I've been using it, including no differences in lettering or shine which it has none of.

On the other hand my brother bought a rubberdome a few years ago and several keys have stopped working.

I've also never touched a rubber dome I didn't think felt mushy either.

The Solutor · « **Reply #114 on:** Mon, 04 July 2011, 21:21:43 »

Quote from: theferenc;373479

4 Sun Type 6 USB keyboards in a little over a year.

Type 6 are good examples of crap (and expensive) boards, do you ever tried an olivetti just for example ?

They are mostly rubber domes, and they are as solid as Model Ms, and most people here consider them the best keyboards ever. I have one from an M24 and is still like new after 28 years or so.

baller1308 · « **Reply #115 on:** Tue, 05 July 2011, 00:57:22 »

the original post wouldn't have been so bad if you left "...and better than yours." out of the title.

Tony · « **Reply #116 on:** Tue, 05 July 2011, 02:08:12 »

Among rubber domes, Logitech, Dell and Keytronic are the best. I bought Keytronic keyboards before learning about mech keyboards, then a Compaq MX11800, then a Model M, then a Filco, and now another Filco.

I chuckle when the topic starter said that he can press space bar without looking at the keyboard because it is exactly at the center. I bought the Ninja keycaps for the same reason.

Clearly, he is just an innocent boy trying to share his naive, limited keyboard experience. We should enjoy him and his posts while it lasts. He'll learn fast.

He's not a troll, he's just a naive boy.

Forgive him, since what he don't know cannot hurt him.

Bry · « **Reply #117 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 01:57:34 »

Not gonna lie, when I ruined my xarmor and needed an emergency trip to walmart so I could do my homework for the next few days until I order a new mech board, I picked up this flimsy little logitech k120 (because it was the cheapest thing they had with an ANSI layout). I'm typing on it right now. Comparing it to other rubber dome boards, it's not too bad at all. The feeling is fine, but I don't like rubber domes. IMO pretty much any mechanical switch > rubber domes.

RC-1140 · « **Reply #118 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 11:16:46 »

Well ripster, you have a little more posts, and are considered a troll for maybe half of them, by half of the geekhackers. But still I think the connotation of the word "troll" is much more positive in your case. Your posts are funny, and confuse some people, OPs posts are partly pretty strange. I'm quite unsure about him. He might be real, and this might be his real opinion. Then this is alright. Maybe a little strange for a starting post, but still alright in my opinion. I agree that he should have read more before posting, but I'm not sure he just wants to troll us Geekhackers.

Anyhow, we might never find out the truth, as OP seems to have left GH after being called troll in his second thread too.

spolia optima · « **Reply #119 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:06:23 »

Quote from: SteaminWaffle;371289

It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one.

wow. just wow.

spolia optima · « **Reply #120 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:09:48 »

Keytronic makes far and away the best cheap keyboards
Even Microsoft models are leagues better than Logitech.

Logitech makes fantastic pointing devices. But their keyboards are garbage.

itlnstln · « **Reply #121 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:16:34 »

Quote from: ClevelandSteaminWaffle

It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one.

I wouldn't have discounted his post until I read this statement. I don't think I would call him a "troll," but that doesn't sound well-founded.

itlnstln · « **Reply #122 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:22:06 »

I'm not saying he's wrong or we should **** on him, but that line is awkwardly worded at best.

It's like taking an old Yugo and slapping a Honda logo on it, and now it's a good car.

noodles256 · « **Reply #123 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:25:18 »

a s d f

itlnstln · « **Reply #124 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:26:31 »

Quote from: noodles256;429705

a s d f

Bro, your posts crack me up.

Fuzzy Dunlop · « **Reply #125 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:40:16 »

What kind of a reaction was OP expecting? He's acting as though he had his head bitten off for asking an innocent question. Look at the last 4 words of the thread title – they're a judgment. Why join a website for mechanical keyboard enthusiasts if all you intend to do is convince 10,000 some odd strangers that they're wrong?

itlnstln · « **Reply #126 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:44:08 »

Quote from: ripster;429731

I don't think of Geekhack as a website for Mechanical Keyboards.

I think of it as a site for keyboards.

Even the logo above has changed to reflect the broader view.

However I will always consider Topre a mechanical keyboard in my wikis.

This. While GH is dominated by a general preference for mechanical keyboards, it was never only about mechanical keyboards. Really, we just wanted to talk about keyboards in general. If someone likes rubber domes, scissors, etc., that's fine, it's their opinion. Hell, there was a group that was die-hard about Keytronics for awhile.

itlnstln · « **Reply #127 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 15:51:29 »

Well, we're not perfect. The 4 members that were here didn't treat me poorly as a noob. I think they were just happy someone showed up. We had more women back then, too.

flyball · « **Reply #128 on:** Wed, 12 October 2011, 17:15:15 »

i have a k200 as a spare keyboard. i think it is almost 20% better than the keyboard the OP has.

woody · « **Reply #129 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 04:18:50 »

Quote from: ripster;429699

... Logitech ...
Key labels don't wear off.

They do wear off, very quickly.

noodles256 · « **Reply #130 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 09:46:55 »

Quote from: ripster;429708

At least noodles isn't rude to noobs.

He welcomes them to Geekhack.

sum1 has to do it

woody · « **Reply #131 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 10:08:18 »

Quote from: ripster;430098

Please refer to the pic in the earlier post. 3 years. Heavily used. Shiny as can be, labels are fine.

I have worn the legends off (read: not in any way completely, but parts/edges here and there vanished) three different Logitech keyboards in just few months time each - one very general model, one ultra-flat, one diNovo Edge. And I am of the gentle/clean type, whose Filco keycap legends don't show any signs of wear.

Just saying. Probably there's no general rule about Logitech's legend durability.

woody · « **Reply #132 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 10:14:58 »

That thought crossed my mind, but I got rid of them once I began hoarding good keyboards. The ultra-flat had also cheap body paint which wore off under my thumbs.
There's one old VAIO I keep which saw very heavy use by me for many years. Gotta capture it's shininess and legend condition ...

drsauced · « **Reply #133 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 10:37:15 »

Well, it's time to thank the OP for the recommendation. I had to replace a bunch of keyboards in our student lab, and decided to go with 15 K120's. I'll grab some pictures later on to see how they hold up!

shrap · « **Reply #134 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 15:49:34 »

If you're buying keyboards for a student lab, I don't think that key feel is a big factor in your decision.

I worked in a computer lab where the keyboards were being used by students for 12 hours a day, seven days a week. I don't remember any of the cheapo Dell keyboards failing, or even if the indices were wearing off. We wiped them down with cleaners every night too.

False_Dmitry_II · « **Reply #135 on:** Thu, 13 October 2011, 17:53:43 »

Quote from: shrap;430406

If you're buying keyboards for a student lab, I don't think that key feel is a big factor in your decision.

I worked in a computer lab where the keyboards were being used by students for 12 hours a day, seven days a week. I don't remember any of the cheapo Dell keyboards failing, or even if the indices were wearing off. We wiped them down with cleaners every night too.

Yeah, the biggest would just be cheap, not too terrible and works for at least awhile. I'm pretty sure most of the people who end up using them wouldn't care. Even potentially in a computer science building.

Quote from: RC-1140;429481

I agree that he should have read more before posting, but I'm not sure he just wants to troll us Geekhackers.

It's not even only that. If you ignore the flame-baiting title (and you have to to even pretend it was serious), then you would have to start reading just the content. Which was nothing but "I tried a bunch of random boards in a store and this one was the least terrible." Especially when you add in there his comments about other keyboards where he'd end up hitting multiple keys at once. What in the world is THAT terrible, besides, perhaps, netbook ones? Overall there really wasn't much real comparison or testing of anything. Including, in the first post at least, any mention of even a single mech board. I'd think if you wanted to make a serious post like that you'd read (and potentially try) about some other stuff before just claiming yours is the best thing ever.

drsauced · « **Reply #136 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 10:33:47 »

No, it was a measure of my benevolence. I wanted something for the students that wouldn't be too abysmal to type on, but also had to be cheap since we go through 6 or 7 of them a semester. It isn't straight typing that does them in either, it's the fluids, food, and the mystery gunk that accumulates somehow.

We have some Microsoft keyboards in there now (low profile) and they shine up nicely in a month or two. The Mac keyboards discolor quickly and then the areas most used on the board stay whitish. We replaced one Mac keyboard with a dead backspace (delete) key, which was not cheap.

guiche · « **Reply #137 on:** Tue, 20 June 2023, 09:45:04 »

I've owned a Logitech k120 for 6 years. Pretty basic keyboard, but so cheap.

The painted letters are coming off "asd" but it still works like day 1.

So I wouldn't be afraid to buy any of their keyboards.

https://pctechtest.com/best-logitech-keyboards

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