Is Topre 103U variable force not good when gaming ?

[minhtri]

i have a deal topre realforce 103u in taobao, price is around 220$
i just wonder is the variable force is not good when gaming ?
the A key requires less force than WSD so maybe i will accidently click it
(no modding here)

should i change it to filco red switch ?
i have blue and brown

[foliolio]

Pro tip: Try gaming with ESDF instead of WASD.

Disclaimer: Apparently, WSX are lighter than EDC on variable weighted Realforces (contrary to the specs), so this might not be your preferred solution. RDFG, maybe?

[arplod]

I've not found it an issue in gaming, beyond the simple fact that I find NRKO-enabled rubber domes or scissors better because you aren't typing in a game and they IMO react better / more predictably to twitch presses.

[Trueepower]

i have a deal topre realforce 103u in taobao, price is around 220$
i just wonder is the variable force is not good when gaming ?
the A key requires less force than WSD so maybe i will accidently click it
(no modding here)

should i change it to filco red switch ?
i have blue and brown

 
I have a 103ub variable, and I think it's possible to get used to the lighter A key. With that said, to me the 45g Topre keys are light for gaming along with the reds. If I had to choose between the two I would pick the Topre switch because of the weight being at the top of the stroke, and the spring "tink" noise on the back stroke. But, both are nice overall. Most people find 45g to be a good weight for typing, and even some prefer that weight for gaming (browns 45g, blues 50g). The blues are loud, but the force required is more around what I would prefer. Accidental presses is what you want to try to avoid.

You can get used to the A key or possibly move your hand placement. The difference between a Topre switch, and cherry red is pretty big. Although, I usually compare 45g Topre the most with the red switch. Both are similar because the Topre is basically linear (even though its considered tactile). You can adapt or change, it depends on what switch you think you would like. Also, for that price I would consider "The keyboard Company" and buying a 45g there for about that price, but it doesn't come in a ANSI layout. I know for me it turns out to be about $250 for a UK 45g board. Which would then eliminate any key weight issues without having to do any additional modding.

[flaming_june]

I don't like it for third person gaming that need q keys to be used with discretion.  That's my only issue.  For SC2 it's perfect.

[minhtri]

i live in the southeast asia, so buy from taobao, shipping fee will be cheaper (a lot)
they suppose to be have 104u 45g or 103u 55g but they are out of stock now

thanks for all of your opinion

[minhtri]

at first, i was looking for 104u 45g or 103u 55g in taobao, but my agent said the seller ran out
so the only choice is red or 103u variable force, (i was going to choose red)
but later, he said 104u 45g will be available after Sep
so ill wait.
XD

[minhtri]

oh, my agent says the seller needs me pre-paid first (pre-order), so when it comes to Sep and the goods are available, he will ship it (he dont know exactly the date)
should i do it , 104u 45g cost a lot, around 370$

[RiGS]

Buy yourself the Noppoo with mx blacks or reds.
Those are cheaper and better for gaming anyway.

[keyboardlover]

Leopold's build quality is better. I say get a leopold with browns.

[RiGS]

Cherry stabilizers in the Leopold are stiff, and not as responsive as the costar stabilizers in the Noppoo.
The position of the F-keys makes the Noppoo a superior gaming keyboard.
Also mx brown is not a good candidate for a gaming switch, unless you play a lot of RTS.
The Noppoo keys are a lot better than the Leopold keys, and the build quality of the case is just as sturdy.
They use the same type of PCB material.
The Noppoo has full NKRO over USB.

[RiGS]

Also it is a lot easier to buy the Noppoo cheaply from Taobao.

[500_pts]

He did say asia, i would assume some sc2 action but seriously nothing wrong with browns for gaming, I use my brown filco as a good general keyboard for my secondary pc, as it goes well from typing to gaming (fps, rts, you name it) without the need to pull out another keyboard

edit: on top of that he should be aware that the noppoo has a non standard layout, which may or may not be a deal breaker

[keyboardlover]

Cherry stabilizers in the Leopold are stiff, and not as responsive as the costar stabilizers in the Noppoo.
The position of the F-keys makes the Noppoo a superior gaming keyboard.
Also mx brown is not a good candidate for a gaming switch, unless you play a lot of RTS.
The Noppoo keys are a lot better than the Leopold keys, and the build quality of the case is just as sturdy.
They use the same type of PCB material.
The Noppoo has full NKRO over USB.

I disagree with pretty much this entire evaluation. Makes no sense.

[RiGS]

You are a coder and probably never played any game at high level.
I just safely ignore your opinion.

[RiGS]

If the OP prefers full size keyboards with standard layout for RTS gaming then the Noppoo Choc Pro is a decent candidate as well.

[500_pts]

Instead of bias and opinion of build quality, let us examine the facts. OP is simply asked if the topre (103 layout, not tkl) variable switches were good for gaming. He has browns and blues, so no need to tell him how he feels about them. Second, he asked if reds where better. Nowhere does the build quality of noppoo v leopold come in

Edit: yes. what rigs said. it appears as though he is looking for fullsize

[minhtri]

ok guy, look like i dont clear u well

i have brown and blue, use both of them at home, blue for normal stuff, include chatting (mean typing a lot) and brown for gaming
i feel satisfied when use them.
but now i am going to move brown to my office so i need to replace it with another. this is my chance of checking another switch.
they are red and topre. and i hear that topre is top quality. so i want to get it.
u can see that keyboard will replace which one i use for gaming so i prefer which one is all 45g or 55g. but they ran out.
i wonder that variable force version is suitable or not for gaming.

if i feel both of them (red, all 45,all 55 or variant) is not suitable for gaming, i just replace brown with one of them.
and no, blue can not be moved, it bothers other people. i dont think it is loud, but they dont think so.


i decide to choose red over topre variable force, but that seller in baotao comes up with topre 45g. there are some conditions and iam thinking about it.

[keyboardlover]

You are a coder and probably never played any game at high level.
I just safely ignore your opinion.

Depends. How you define "high level". I've been know to seriously pwn in UT99, CS and TF2. PM if you want my steam handle.

[Crazy9000]

As someone who has some world records in a game that uses only the keyboard for an input device, I say that the Topre is definitely "better" then any of the Cherry switches. I would think that the variable force could be a minor annoyance, so I'd suggest getting even weights if you can...

I use a 108b-mp since it has full NKRO and 45g weighting.