What is VIM?

[Xuan]

edit: I should have known.  I use a plugin called vimacs to get emacs-like editing hotkeys in insert mode and while editing commands (mainly ctrl-{AKFBD}).  That plugin sets timeoutlen and also seems to be causing the weird escape behavior.  That'll teach me to mix water and oil.

Ohu! I think that's because some terminal emulators send Alt+Something as a Esc,Something sequence, so to recognize Alt commands it has to wait a bit after each time Esc is pressed. It sucks!

Looks nice, I'll give it a try.  My favorites are dante and candycode.

I love zenburn

[Daniel Beaver]

I love zenburn

I am also a zenburn fan. So much so that I use it in every application that I can customize color palettes for.

[insilica]

Just curious - I've been using VIM for most things for the past couple of years but I've recently started using sublime text for coding - well it's free (indefinite evaluation at the moment) - it's kinda of cool and I'm really taking to it - just sharing my experience

[Daniel Beaver]

Sublime Text is pretty good, though you can replicate almost all it's features in Notepad++.

[insilica]

Sublime Text is pretty good, though you can replicate almost all it's features in Notepad++.

Except notepad++ is only really available on M$ platform. Sublime runs on M$, Mac and Linux (at least the beta does) - actually I'm liking it because there a geeza working on VIM functionality - trouble is I use urxvtd (lots of command work) and on gentoo for some reason copy/paste is a nightmare ... especially when multiplexing in Tmux

[daerid]

ir_black here.

Oh, and I can't use any text editor if it's not vim. It's just too weird. I have to use ViEmu if I ever find myself in Visual Studio (yuck).

[nar]

I am also a zenburn fan. So much so that I use it in every application that I can customize color palettes for.

Same here, on my Linux VM I have the desktop colour scheme for KDE and Gnome (The Elegant Mine theme fits perfectly with zenburn colours) completely zenburned.

[Xuan]

Except notepad++ is only really available on M$ platform. Sublime runs on M$, Mac and Linux (at least the beta does) - actually I'm liking it because there a geeza working on VIM functionality - trouble is I use urxvtd (lots of command work) and on gentoo for some reason copy/paste is a nightmare ... especially when multiplexing in Tmux

Have you tried using xclip? It uses the X bin, so better interoperability with other programs.

I have this in mi vimrc

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" Copy with C-w
vmap <C-w> y:call system(&quot;xclip -i -selection clipboard&quot;, getreg(&quot;\&quot;&quot;))<CR>:call system(&quot;xclip -i&quot;, getreg(&quot;\&quot;&quot;))<CR>

&quot; paste with  C-y
nmap <C-y> :call setreg(&quot;\&quot;&quot;,system(&quot;xclip -o -selection clipboard&quot;))<CR>p

&quot; to paste in insert mode
imap <C-y> <Esc><C-y>a


[insilica]

Have you tried using xclip? It used the X bin, so better interoperability with other programs.

I have this in mi vimrc

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" Copy with C-w
vmap <C-w> y:call system(&quot;xclip -i -selection clipboard&quot;, getreg(&quot;\&quot;&quot;))<CR>:call system(&quot;xclip -i&quot;, getreg(&quot;\&quot;&quot;))<CR>

&quot; paste with  C-y
nmap <C-y> :call setreg(&quot;\&quot;&quot;,system(&quot;xclip -o -selection clipboard&quot;))<CR>p

&quot; to paste in insert mode
imap <C-y> <Esc><C-y>a


oooo nice - ty sir :

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rm sublime

[daerid]

I always get interested looking at other text editors... then I realize that Vim is free and open source, and more powerful than any editor I've tried. It ain't going anywhere. I build my own version of vim on all windows, mac, and linux (whenever I work in it). Don't mess with a good thing.

[flyball]

I always get interested looking at other text editors... then I realize that Vim is free and open source, and more powerful than any editor I've tried. It ain't going anywhere. I build my own version of vim on all windows, mac, and linux (whenever I work in it). Don't mess with a good thing.

sounds like you havent tried emacs

[fossala]

Emacs user here. I used to use vim but just found emacs more comfortable.

[daerid]

sounds like you havent tried emacs

Yeah, I tried emacs. Didn't like it. Although I do acknowledge it's power, as well as it's importance in the development community. I just find that the modal editing of Vim works better for how I think.


PS: Just gave emacs another shot. WTH? It's a 140MB install? For a text editor? And I thought Vim's 20mb was excessive.

[flyball]

PS: Just gave emacs another shot. WTH? It's a 140MB install? For a text editor? And I thought Vim's 20mb was excessive.

if you install it from a package it probably comes with full elisp sources, extra addons, possibly multiple graphics frontends, ect. if you are really hurting for space then you can compile it yourself

[RC-1140]

I just remembered this:”Emacs is a great operating system – it lacks a good editor, though.“ when reading these posts. But I have to admit, I never really tried emacs, I just like my vim too much. I like the modal setup and don't like using too many modifiers.

[daerid]

if you install it from a package it probably comes with full elisp sources, extra addons, possibly multiple graphics frontends, ect. if you are really hurting for space then you can compile it yourself

I installed it on Windows, so no idea if it came with the Lisp sources.

PS: As a programmer myself I also find Lisp abhorrent. I find that vimscript is much more palatable, when necessary, otherwise I extend vim with Python

[JBert]

...
For the other vim'ers: If you haven't tried it already, I highly recommend using screen and vim together (or tmux and vim) - the split screen capabilities are beastly.

I could see how this would help if your are continuously switching between the console and Vim.
If you want to edit multiple files it is nicer to use Vim's split windows, buffers and tabs to alternate between them.