Anything equivalent to Belking f5u119-E......

[mcc]

Hi,

I tried to get a Belkin F5u119-E for my IBM model M...no success.
Since I am living in germany it is not so easy at all, since this model
seems rare to non-existent on the European market. I found a shop
in the UK offering this model...but they do not deliver to germany.

So...is there any alternative, may be even internally identical to
that Belkin adaptor and which is NOT the blue cube (since it seems
to have some drawbacks compared to the Belkin adaptor and
is also a product of the U.S.A. market ... very expensive to
order for a European citizen).

Any help is very appreciated...thank you very much in advance!

Best regards,
mcc

[bloodygood]

I have read the reviews for this one that says it has very good results with Model M even on mac, just have to find out who makes it and see if it is available in European parts of the world http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10404&cs_id=1040401&p_id=2274&seq=1&format=2 I just can't read the image personally

[mcc]

Hi Bloodygood, Hi Ripster,

Thank you for your fast responses! )))

@Bloodygood: How can I search for a Chinese product of the US market in European
store from which I neither know its producers name, nor the products name nor the serial
number. I only have the picture of a grey something which seems to be able to be
identified as USB2PS/2 adaptor, which cable successfully covers the only printing
on its box......
If you own that adaptor, I would be very happy, if you can provide me with the informations
like (pasted from the page linked below, where it is described how to get that information...).
 
System_profiler SPUSBDataType
  [other devices stripped]

            PS2toUSB Adapter:

              Product ID: 0x0020
              Vendor ID: 0x0e8f
              Version:  2.80
              Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
              Manufacturer: GASIA
              Location ID: 0x3d130000
              Current Available (mA): 500
              Current Required (mA): 400

With this informations I would be able to identify any "grey adaptor" from local
sellers as "the one true adaptor" or as "just another brick in the wall..."

Thank you very much in advance!

@Ripster:
Cite from http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=PS2-to-USB+adapters
"- Lshift/Cursor bug."

That is what I found about the blue cube. And...it is as difficult to get for
reasonable costs in Europe since it has to be imported from the USA as far
as I know...

What do you think ?

Best regards and have a nice weekend!
mcc


- Lshift/Cursor bug.

[flyball]

http://www.amazon.de/Belkin-MODULE-USB-Adapter-Busstation/dp/B0006BA2SI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319824621&sr=8-1

[flyball]

i have a blue cube and i just tried to duplicate the bug. i found a post on gh where it says that up and right disables shift when shift is held, but it seems like any combination of (up, down),(left,right) sets it off, and the keys have to be sort of quickly pressed

[mcc]

Hi flyball:

From the amazon page:
Modellnummer: F5U119eaE
This the wrong serial number....sigh

Sorry, I am no native english speaker...I think, I dont understand your second post...
do you mean: Reagardless what key is pressed -- if released quickly...it hangs???
(no I dont think you mean that...but...HELP )

best regards,
mcc

[flyball]

Hi flyball:

From the amazon page:
Modellnummer: F5U119eaE
This the wrong serial number....sigh

Sorry, I am no native english speaker...I think, I dont understand your second post...
do you mean: Reagardless what key is pressed -- if released quickly...it hangs???
(no I dont think you mean that...but...HELP )

best regards,
mcc

you hold shift and press up and left and then shift gets disabled, any text typed is lowercase. if you release shift and press again then it works fine.

i don't think it's a big issue but also i don't see a blue cube on amazon.de, so you may be out of luck anyways.

[mcc]

Hi,

@flyball: thank you for the explanations, flyball

@Ripster: TWO different models? Only TWO???
Man, your are joking, aren't you ?
The Belkin, which currently fights with me is an
Belkin  F5U119vE1  (0a81:0205 Chesen Electronics Corp. PS/2 Keyboard+Mouse Adapter)
The one linked in this thread on an amazon Page is a F5U119eaE.
Then there is a F5U119cpE and last but not least the famous F5U119-E. And may be Belkin
is makeing the consumer even more happier with even more versions and variations...
Additionally I read of different firmware versions in one and the same Belkin adapter.
And I simple guy thought life alone would be complicate.....

mcc

[Soarer]

flyball - was that with a Model M?

Blue cube works fine with my old (square label) M, at least. And many more. But I do have one or two keyboards that don't work 100% with it, because of that  shift+cursors bug - and for them it is MUCH MORE than a minor annoyance: it's find another converter time.

[flyball]

flyball - was that with a Model M?

Blue cube works fine with my old (square label) M, at least. And many more. But I do have one or two keyboards that don't work 100% with it, because of that  shift+cursors bug - and for them it is MUCH MORE than a minor annoyance: it's find another converter time.

at101w

[Soarer]

at101w

Right. I think they have the same quirk as the SGI Granite, which uses an unusual (but legal) prefix code on the fake shift that is part of the sequence that is sent when you press a cursor key (actually, any of the ten keys in that block). Don't ask... it's tedious and to do with making 101 key keyboards compatible with hosts expecting 84 key 'boards. It took me a few tries to get the handling right when writing my converter.

Bottom line, for the OP, is that Blue Cube is great for a Model M :-)

[bloodygood]

I believe the device is already on the list there, but I could be wrong. I'll copy what I think it is, and what the info on the device I have is. (I do not currently own the device as i was waiting to obtain it later this week.
Device ID Number: SY-USB-PS2
ASIN: B000JPCAL8
Item model number: SY-89300984
I believe it is this from : http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=PS2-to-USB+adapters
as it matches the description of compatibility as is shown by reviews, and it matches in form factor to a T.
VendorID: 0e8f (GreenAsia Inc.)
ProductID: 0020
USB-to-PS2 (UP-02)

- Seems to works fine with HHKB and Model Ms on Windows PC (requests 400mA)
- Sometimes acts extremely weird on Mac OSX when using it with the HHKB, keeps sending the "A" key after each reboot until you replug it?!
- ISO support untested, will add that info later
- The above three adapters report this ID (they use the same chip?)

[Ascaii]

I have a few extra blue cubes if you want one. 5€+shipping. Warensendung for less then a euro.

[mcc]

Hi Ascaii,

THAT sounds good!
I sent you a PM...

best regards,
mcc

[Luhmaniac]

The converters from HAMA work without problems too. You can buy them everywhere in Germany (Media-Markt, Saturn, Amazon.de...).