Author Topic: Poker Suit Keycaps Round 2 (ORDERS CLOSED) (Read 54517 times)

Monja · « **Reply #50 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 06:09:15 »

Heart - 2
Club - 2

oneproduct · « **Reply #51 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 06:29:02 »

Would be interested in them if they were going to be filled instead of outlined and wouldn't mind paying extra towards the new artwork fee. Maybe create a poll to see what people think about this?

jil_jil32 · « **Reply #52 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 06:47:21 »

Quote from: oneproduct;508076

Would be interested in them if they were going to be filled instead of outlined and wouldn't mind paying extra towards the new artwork fee. Maybe create a poll to see what people think about this?

+1 this.

bavman · « **Reply #53 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 11:40:29 »

I'm sure you could also get at least 35 for each key making it only $1 more expensive per key and I'm sure people would be willing to pay that.

hashbaz · « **Reply #54 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 11:45:31 »

Quote from: mR_fRag`;508057

The keycaps have the other poker profile keycaps? I mean they have filco or cherry profile?

They'll have SP profile, which is similar to Filco but not identical. Specifically, these modifier keys will be more sharply angled than Filco keys. It's just something we have to live with. See the wikis and ripster's GLWIC thread for more detail.

metafour · « **Reply #55 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:05:52 »

I'm in for filled or lined. However, I don't want to buy lined only to have someone run another GB a month later with filled. So are we definitely going with lined?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #56 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 12:44:45 »

Very well. I made a poll, go vote.

oneproduct · « **Reply #57 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 14:23:48 »

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The colorway will be on 'white'/light beige this time

I take it that SP doesn't have a "true" white?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #58 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 20:24:35 »

Yes they have a very white white, use it for legends at least on black keys etc... but I don't think it will match with as much sets out there as the off white/light beige color.

hazeluff · « **Reply #59 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 20:27:59 »

I'll get 2 of each if its the filled ver.

oneproduct · « **Reply #60 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 20:50:28 »

Quote from: lysol;508794

Yes they have a very white white, use it for legends at least on black keys etc... but I don't think it will match with as much sets out there as the off white/light beige color.

Ah, because the Filco and Leopold white keycaps are off-white a little bit, right? I just have WASD and KBC PBT whites and they're pretty true white.

tsangan · « **Reply #61 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 21:14:13 »

Filco's white isn't even a white lol

oneproduct · « **Reply #62 on:** Tue, 07 February 2012, 21:22:38 »

I don't understand why they would do things like that. It's like "hey guys, how about we release a white keyboard? NO! NO, WAIT... OFF-WHITE!"

balanar · « **Reply #63 on:** Wed, 08 February 2012, 08:12:13 »

Just voted for the filled versions! I'd get these in a heart beat if they were available.

wilsongunawan · « **Reply #64 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 10:45:13 »

Club - 1
Diamond - 1
Spade - 1
Heart - 1
With any design or color as long fit my leopold

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #65 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 13:19:45 »

Looks like SOLID is winning by a landslide. If going for new molds, increase the per key cost to $5.50 each, still includes shipping.

Questions: How many of you want these for a Poker keyboard? In my original intention the suit colors makes sense, but not so nice looking all together maybe with red, blue, tan, black. You using them more on other board? Maybe do proper red and black only?

byFd · « **Reply #66 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 13:28:30 »

i'd say either black/red or this like this

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #67 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 13:36:25 »

Well thats almost what it is now, with tan (MX brown color) club instead green...

oneproduct · « **Reply #68 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 14:17:55 »

I don't think that most people are getting them to match their switch colors since most people seem to be ordering one of each. I think there's really two ways to look at it:

1. Use black and red only. The two red keys would serve the same purpose, such as both being control, and the two black keys would serve the same purpose, such as both being alt.

2. Use four different colors. You'd then probably do a running suit of cards on the right alt, meta, right super and right control keys.

I think I like the second way a bit more, which is more for looks than for function. You could do the second way with just black and red too, but I think the different colors would be more eye catching. Regarding the color for the club, brown is good to match the switch color but if we aren't going for the switch color match then I think that green is better. Green is the color used in four color decks of cards (as pictured above). Green is a also just a nicer color than brown and the club is also sometimes referred to as a shamrock/clover so it suits it well in that regard too.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #69 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 16:59:51 »

Good thoughts. I would like to see some more opinions, but I don't think another poll is necessary. Need to make sure it's what people are wanting, since I am already taken care of from round 1, this is for you guys. I'm just the coordinator.

tsangan · « **Reply #70 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:06:42 »

Just black/red please, no more RGB

But if you decide on the colour one, do it RGBY instead of the black

byFd · « **Reply #71 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:13:28 »

a yellow spade? i don't think that will look too good....

tsangan · « **Reply #72 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:17:11 »

black/red still has my vote

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #73 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:17:17 »

I don't think yellow will look so good on off white either. Light color on light color is usually not too nice to see.
I think it's best to either stick to the original black, blue, red, tan; or black and red classic only, no other different colors.

hazeluff · « **Reply #74 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:25:09 »

Black and red like proper cards!

metafour · « **Reply #75 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:34:21 »

I've got a Poker I'm planning to use them on but as long as the keys come out looking good I don't really care if they match the original colors used by KBC.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #76 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 17:40:19 »

Simple legends nearly ensure they come out looking good. I think the last round looked pretty good asides from the blue and brown being darker than I wanted. Looks like we might be going with classic red and black then, unless a bunch of people tell me they hate that idea. I think some people wanted that last time too... where you people?

jonnybastard · « **Reply #77 on:** Thu, 09 February 2012, 23:21:41 »

I'd rather the coloured ones personally but would still be happy with black and red if it came down to it.

Taeyoung · « **Reply #78 on:** Fri, 10 February 2012, 02:36:30 »

I'll take:
- Spade: 16
- Diamond: 16
- Heart: 16
- Club: 16

Location : South Korea

Please PM me :-)

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #79 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:28:56 »

PM'd. Please confirm that large order with a payment. I'm not going to count it until then, no offense.

hazeluff · « **Reply #80 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 17:42:37 »

About the $5.5 per key including shipping. An extra key still costs $5.5?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #81 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 18:06:16 »

There are a few reasons for this, first it makes my life easier to have 1 price for caps, includes shipping, cost of packing materials. Second, some places cost more to send than others for whatever reason. Third, if there is a gross overage, I will refund it and did so last time for some people that had larger orders. I feel it's easier for me to give a refund, than get people to give me more money if it costs more.
I hope that makes sense, and answers your question.

tsangan · « **Reply #82 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 18:50:23 »

I'm not too okay with that, guess I'll skip out on this then

Without an order of any sort knowing how many keys are being ordered, and charging $5.50 a key and $5.50 for an additional key is kinda overpriced?

It definitely could be that price, but at the same time, it could be a lot less

hazeluff · « **Reply #83 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 18:57:46 »

I'm gonna pass, I like the keys. But I can't agree with the way you are running it.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #84 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:00:29 »

Hey, that's fine. I'm just trying to make sure I don't loose money doing another buy. I did last time, not a lot, but I don't want to again.

tsangan · « **Reply #85 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:03:08 »

I can understand that, but I also cannot agree that this is the way to fix that

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #86 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:12:54 »

If you don't want to participate, that is fine. If veteran GB organizers have some tips for me, I am more than happy to listen. If someone else wants to take this over, they are more than welcome.

tsangan · « **Reply #87 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:13:13 »

Very grumpy ._.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #88 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:22:31 »

Yes, thats me. Mr. Grumpy. Sorry, I am not in a good mood tonight.

hazeluff · « **Reply #89 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:24:54 »

Quote from: lysol;512102

Yes, thats me. Mr. Grumpy. Sorry, I am not in a good mood tonight.

Sorry, no intent of insult there = (.

tsangan · « **Reply #90 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 19:29:16 »

Quote from: lysol;512102

Yes, thats me. Mr. Grumpy. Sorry, I am not in a good mood tonight.

That's no good, when you're in a better mood we can discuss more

dorkvader · « **Reply #91 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 20:10:45 »

Quote from: lysol;512102

Yes, thats me. Mr. Grumpy. Sorry, I am not in a good mood tonight.

That's unfortunate. Maybe you should go to bed before your day gets any worse? (sorry, it was a good quote I've been meaning to use.) In any case, I'd relax with a bear, and read a few chapters in my book, then re-examine the issue.

Firstly: I don't see anything wrong with charging a flat rate per key. It keeps things simple. Were I interested in poker-suit keycaps, I'd probably be happy getting some. Still, I think there are better ways:

1. get shipping figured out ahead of time, and include in pricing.
2. have the individual keycap cost from SP figured out, and make that the cost per additional
3. Have the expensive shipping an "upgrade" option.

Here's an example:
$6.00 for one keycap
$1.00 for each additional keycap
+$5.00 Shipping upgrade
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That way it's easy to figure out costs/pricing.

One thing you can also do is add $1.00 handling fee for your time buying, setting it up, sorting, etc. This would be included in the "$x.xx for the first keycap" cost.
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Anyway, I've not yet run a GB, but this strikes me as a logical way to go. Even if there are slightly different pricing on the different suits, I like having it all one price, with it all averaging out, or being absorbed in the handling fee. I think this makes it easier for you to keep track of (for example, if the unit cost per keycap is $.25 for hearts, and $.30 for all the rest, then just say each additional key is $.28 or something.)

Anyway, I hope your day tomorrow goes better! I'm sad when other GH'ers are grumpy.

edit: bears are quite relaxing indeed, but I'd rather have a good read over a good beer.

They tell me that bears beats battlestar galactica ,though.

Kisakuku · « **Reply #92 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 20:20:00 »

Quote from: dorkvader;512143

In any case, I'd relax with a bear, and read a few chapters in my book, then re-examine the issue.

Tsangan and I find bears very relaxing too :drum:

balanar · « **Reply #93 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 20:24:31 »

Quote from: dorkvader;512143

That's unfortunate. Maybe you should go to bed before your day gets any worse? (sorry, it was a good quote I've been meaning to use.) In any case, I'd relax with a bear, and read a few chapters in my book, then re-examine the issue.

I'd love to see that.:rofl:

Seriously though, dorkvader's suggestion is pretty good. Take a break and have a look at this problem another day.

That being said, if the $5.50 prices remain, I gotta pull out of this one. Perhaps other GB organizers could help lysol out with more advice?

hazeluff · « **Reply #94 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 20:47:45 »

I've only just run my first one. But I would say that If you spend a good hour making a nice spreadsheet for this to keep track of people's info and orders, it will mean you won't have to individually calculate the prices of each order. I have one and would share it if Lysol wants it (it's somewhat of a mess tho). Basically once its set up. Just put in the user's data and order and you're done.

By calculating the prices before hand we avoid his point of having to do refunds. I'd assume that would be quite a time consuming process.

The main thing left is the shipping prices. If the problem is just because packages vary in prices. I'd go for flat rate shipping rates or calculate a "maximum" value that it would cost to ship to certain regions (split maybe Local/International). It will need some time obviously if he wants to do shipping rates for different destinations, but if he uses a good estimated value to "balance out" shipping it will still work.

Lysol don't be grumpy. I ruff you rong time too = 3.

tl;dr: Spreadsheets may be able to help out.

metafour · « **Reply #95 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 22:12:26 »

Quote from: hazeluff;512164

tl;dr: Spreadsheets may be able to help out.

Spreadsheets and Bears FTW!

balanar · « **Reply #96 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 22:34:28 »

As long as you don't end up like this guy.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #97 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 22:47:30 »

Just so you guys are aware, They were $5 ea last time, and that was actual cost due to legend art, mold, keys, envelope, shipping. I only dropped the price at the end so I didn't have a bunch of them sitting around. This is mostly where I lost some money. I also didn't mean to make it sound like I would be purposely overcharging then refunding. That is far from the case, and I understand what started the comments now after I re-read some stuff here...
So to break it down, it's $35x4 /100 =$1 per key for the new legend molds so many of you wanted, $2 for the key, a minimum of $1.88 for shipping, plus the cost of a bubble envelope. Hey thats the correct price per key. I know what I am doing maybe?
So, then $5.50 for first key, then how about $4 for each additional key, that way I should still be able keep the shipping from being more than what you paid. I feel this is reasonable, and likely as good as it's going to get unless we can hit serious volume prices from SP.

Sorry for being all cranky before, it is cold and I was hungry and bears with spreadsheets were after me, and Whitney is dead!

metafour · « **Reply #98 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 22:51:07 »

Quote from: lysol;512232

Whitney is dead!

Such a sad world sometimes... =(

Gawkbasher · « **Reply #99 on:** Sat, 11 February 2012, 23:03:56 »

With the other custom key group buys, it seems that there is a clear indication of what the price of the keys is with the legend fees. Shipping should be separate from the cost of the key, honestly. There are some estimations of cost to different regions in some of the other group buys.

It's actually fairly easy to calculate shipping costs to different locations based on weight at USPS's website. You could even just take pre-payment for the keys and then charge shipping at the time you ship. No money at all is lost that way. Stuff within CONUS should all be a flat rate with a bubble mailer or priority.

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Author Topic: Poker Suit Keycaps Round 2 (ORDERS CLOSED) (Read 54517 times)