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Offline oneproduct

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Kinesis reds not as fun as regular reds
« on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 08:28:12 »
My first keyboard with reds was the Kinesis and when comparing those reds to browns on a normal keyboard, I was entirely certain that I preferred browns. I just got some reds on a normal keyboard now and they feel quite different than the ones on the Kinesis, not because of wear or the like, but just because of the different shape of the keyboard, which affects how you push down on the keys.

Now I'm not sure whether I prefer reds or browns! While I wouldn't call it a cloud of boobs, I can understand why some people like reds so much now whereas before when I had only tried them on my Kinesis I wasn't impressed. Just wanted to mention this because I've never heard anyone else mention that Kinesis reds feel different than regular reds.
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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 08:49:08 »
Your Kinesis keyboard shape is an inverted boob, so it destroys/neutralizes the typical booby typing feel of reds.
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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 09:04:19 »
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Your Kinesis keyboard shape is an inverted boob, so it destroys/neutralizes the typical booby typing feel of reds.


Haha, you're right!!


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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 10:37:55 »
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That is a "press any key" !!!
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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 10:41:28 »
did you have the kinesis key tone speaker thing on ?

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 10:55:09 »
Please explain how a keyboard with reds can feel like boobs. Please answer only if you have ever felt actual female boobs of a human woman other than your mother. :D
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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 11:02:00 »
Ok, from touching natural or silicone breasts?
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 11:09:01 »
It's actually a pretty apt description.  Reds are "linear" switches, which means resistance increases evenly as the key travels, a lot like pressing your fingers into flesh.  So you might also say that black switches are like typing on a cloud of flexed biceps.

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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 11:31:02 »
Quote from: Lanx;462820
did you have the kinesis key tone speaker thing on ?

I use to use it with but now I use it without. In either case, the reds are still not as fun as they are on a normal keyboard.
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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 12:26:37 »
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I use to use it with but now I use it without. In either case, the reds are still not as fun as they are on a normal keyboard.


Interesting. I have the opposite experience, I like tactile switches like my Model M mini's in flat keyboards, but on the Kinesis I like the red linear switches with the tone speaker turned on. I never really liked browns on my previous Kinesis models, the reds have been a huge improvement for me. I guess everybody is different, therefore having choices is good!
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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 12:43:43 »
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That is a "press any key" !!![/QUOTE]
 
I like the ergonomics of this keyboard I suppose, but the layout is atrocious.  Also the casing and build quality are questionable, though the internals seems to be well designed.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 13:13:16 »
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I once yelled "Geronimo-o-o-o!!!!!" at the top of my lungs. The response is classified, if I tell you, I hafta kill you.

Interesting observation about the different feel of switches on different boards. Makes a lot of sense though. More choices!!!! Yayyy!
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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 13:16:37 »
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I once yelled "Geronimo-o-o-o!!!!!" at the top of my lungs. The response is classified, if I tell you, I hafta kill you.

Interesting observation about the different feel of switches on different boards. Makes a lot of sense though. More choices!!!! Yayyy!
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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 17:23:59 »
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Please stack RipOmeter nickels on your GF/Wife ASAP and post pics.

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I don't have any more nickels, but I do have $33 in dimes. How do I know when the switch activates, though?

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 02 December 2011, 17:56:13 »
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I don't have any more nickels, but I do have $33 in dimes. How do I know when the switch activates, though?

When you're in severe pain, you know you've flipped the switch.  I've found that such switches are fairly easy to actuate, but I don't have proper ripometer data.