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Offline wilsongunawan

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second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
« on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 11:01:11 »
Can u guys suggest me which one better or other keyboard? Coz I got the leopold fcr500 and I want feel the mini or compact keyboard now. And which one better for gaming?
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Offline Reptile

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 11:07:00 »
I would say it depends what you like. I love my choc mini and it is fine for gaming. The white model has thick PBT keycaps which are also a bonus. But if you plan on trying to find a new set of keys that would fit completely; good luck as a lot of the modifiers are different sizes than a standard 87 key.
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Offline wilsongunawan

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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 11:11:09 »
So that means the keycaps are hard to find?
Quote from: Reptile;488743
I would say it depends what you like. I love my choc mini and it is fine for gaming. The white model has thick PBT keycaps which are also a bonus. But if you plan on trying to find a new set of keys that would fit completely; good luck as a lot of the modifiers are different sizes than a standard 87 key.
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Offline Reptile

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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 16:53:34 »
The sizes are different than on a Filco, Ducky etc.. So you cant buy an 87 or 104 set and have them all fit. But again the stock keycaps on the white models are already very nice.
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Offline Human

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:01:02 »
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So that means the keycaps are hard to find?


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1st: Back-lit keycaps are rare(though KBT do sell white color replacement keycaps for Race)
2nd: R5 height F-keys are extremely rare
3rd: The layout is non-standard and a little odd
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Offline wilsongunawan

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:43:01 »
So for the peformance in gaming n typing and the durability which one is better?
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Offline Human

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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:46:34 »
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So for the peformance in gaming n typing and the durability which one is better?

I wonder how do we judge performance?

For durability wise(for keycaps in this particular case), the non-coated + PBT/POM keycaps on the Choc Mini should be the winner.(correct me if anyone who own KBT Race can prove that it is wrong).
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Offline wilsongunawan

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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 00:22:55 »
Do the kbt works on mac os? Because there is a posibility I'm gonna change to mac. The noppoo don't work on the mac but I really like the white color
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Offline astr0s

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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 00:52:28 »
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There is no n-key rollover for USB, so the keyboard is fully working under all major operating system.

http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1763

So, supposedly it should work, also check here http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?26003-KBT-Race-75-White-LED-arrive-all-switches, Qtan should price the white/blue Races today :)
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Offline wilsongunawan

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:18:17 »
so is there any others compact keyboard?
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Offline Benji

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:22:32 »
keycaps on noppoo is nice looking
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Offline Maxrunner

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:24:03 »
What does the % value mean???
Like this designation for example:    
KBC Poker 40% Mechanical Gaming keyboard Cherry MX BLUE Switches W/ PBT Caps

40% of what??? :P
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Offline Benji

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:34:05 »
I imagine of a regular or bigger keyboard. I think..
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Offline Benji

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:34:41 »
anyone?
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Offline Human

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 10:32:35 »
Quote from: Maxrunner;489475
What does the % value mean???
Like this designation for example:    
KBC Poker 40% Mechanical Gaming keyboard Cherry MX BLUE Switches W/ PBT Caps

40% of what??? :P


40% of the size/layout of normal fullsize keyboard.
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Offline trax

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 10:43:27 »
Yea not sure about this percentage thingy either

20% = numpad
therefor filco, leaopold, realforce tenkeyless are 80%

Remove 5% from the filco tlk to get a PURE? Ye, they removed the 6pack cluster so I guess thats 5%

Removing the dedicated arrow keys would be another 5% so you would get 60%

But then the poker only misses the F1-F12 row and that surely doesn't make up for 20%




WIKI PLOX
« Last Edit: Fri, 13 January 2012, 11:11:58 by trax »
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Offline Human

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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 11:08:30 »
Quote from: trax;489536
Yea not sure about this percentage thingy either

20% = numpad
therefor filco, leaopold, realforce tenkeyless are 80%

Remove 5% from the filco tlk to get a vortex? Ye, they removed the 6pack cluster so I guess thats 5%

Removing the dedicated arrow keys would be another 5% so you would get 60%

But then the poker only misses the F1-F12 row and that surely doesn't make up for 20%




WIKI PLOX

In fact, poker is also called 60% keyboard sometimes.
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Offline trax

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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 11:12:22 »
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In fact, poker is also called 60% keyboard sometimes.

That would make sense.
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Offline wilsongunawan

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« Reply #18 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 19:22:19 »
but the size of the kbt said 75% n it's only the same size with the poker 40%
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Offline FinancialWar

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 13 January 2012, 19:59:37 »
I thought the KBT have the function row which the poker does not have.
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Offline captain

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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:01:45 »
I'm not finding the answers to the above, though I seem to recall reading a more in depth explanation. The big question is: are the KEYS full size?  Likewise on the Pure. Enshrinkened keys SUCK. Unless you are 7.
« Last Edit: Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:59:57 by captain »
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