UK ISO Layout HHKB Pro-2?

[Barn]

Are they available?

[fossala]

No, but who gives a damn. HHKB layout FTW.

[Barn]

That's such a shame. I really can't stand the US square enter key.

[demik]

Good thing it's a rectangle, eh?

[flac.head]

im the same. i bought a us layout years ago and no matter how hard i tried i could never hit the enter button first try. luckily we can get the realforce uk layout though

[fossala]

im the same. i bought a us layout years ago and no matter how hard i tried i could never hit the enter button first try. luckily we can get the realforce uk layout though

HHKB>Realforce

[dirge]

We really need more ISO options. A blank pbt  set would be a bloody start!

[fossala]

I used to use ISO but got used to using ANSI and have never looked back. It also gives you a lot more options with keyboards as well.

[phillyosophy]

^^ same as with fossala, got used to ANSI and that was it.

[koralatov]

An ISO HHKB seems like it would be missing the point.  The keyboard was designed by a Unix user for *nix use, and ANSI is better-suited for this: the placement of its |\ key alone makes it better-suited.  I use ISO, but the more I use Mac OS X’s Unix underpinnings, the more I feel like I’d benefit from an ANSI layout.

What I really want is for the HHKB to become available for sale in the UK.

[fossala]

What I really want is for the HHKB to become available for sale in the UK.

From what I have heard PFU (the people who make it) won't put it through all the regulation test to be sold in the EU. If you want one you might as well bite the bullet and import one.

[koralatov]

From what I have heard PFU (the people who make it) won't put it through all the regulation test to be sold in the EU. If you want one you might as well bite the bullet and import one.

I read that somewhere too.  It’s a shame, but I can understand it; EU regulations can be a tad stringent at times, and certification can be expensive.  On the plus side, it means that it’s less easy for me to spend money I shouldn’t on yet another keyboard.

[fossala]

I don't see how it is any less easy. Just takes a bit longer to get to you.

[koralatov]

I don't see how it is any less easy. Just takes a bit longer to get to you.

It’s less easy because I have to get it delivered to my home address instead of my work address, then pay Royal Mail and/or Parcelforce their pound of flesh “customs processing fee”, then rearrange delivery for a day that I’m not it.  With a UK seller, all that stuff is already taken care of.  Even if it’s slightly pricier upfront it doesn’t *feel* pricier because I don’t have to give RM their fee, which is the part that stings.

[fossala]

Yeah I got hit by customs and Parcel forces 12.50 handling charge.

[phillyosophy]

From what I have heard PFU (the people who make it) won't put it through all the regulation test to be sold in the EU. If you want one you might as well bite the bullet and import one.

Tis true, heard from Bruce, from Keyboardco. They tried to get HHKBs in, but PFU and most japanese companies are not very er, happy with doing "health and safety" tests and whatnots just for the EU market.

I really don't want to be paying RM or parcelforce people just for a stamp saying it ain't drugs or weapons. Plus, these handling fees are just ways to get more money out of us, we are just paying them again to ship things to us when we have already paid for the original shipping charges.

oh wells. Looks like a trip to Japan is planned for but I wonder if I will have to declare goods if I walk back in with 10 keyboards in my luggage. :ohwell:

[dirge]

Put me down for 1 of those ten plz