Author Topic: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!! (Read 12848 times)

lam47 · « **Reply #50 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 07:22:45 »

Quote from: ch_123;97301

Mine is still on the "Electronic shipping info received" status on the USPS tracking page...

I have a graphics card that has had the same status as that for 4 days now

OverSky · « **Reply #51 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 07:50:13 »

If anyone is thinking of ordering anything from the site but hesitant for any reason check this out:

>>Note from Merchant:
>>You received a full or partial refund of $10.00 USD from EliteKeyboards.
>>
>>We switched to FedEx for Canadian shipments, so here is a refund of the difference.

So, awesome.

itlnstln · « **Reply #52 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 08:09:22 »

Elitekeyboards (majestouch) is one of the best online retailers I have purchased from. I think it's the personal attention to each order that make the buying experience as great as it is. This is just another example of the "extra mile" majestouch goes to ensure customer satisfaction. A real, old-school customer servant.

lam47 · « **Reply #53 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 08:21:28 »

I'ts true. He did in fact offer me a way to get a Filco over here which would have cost him personally!
However the very kind itlnstln offered to help and it worked out cheaper and less risky over all.
You are both great

jkkhop · « **Reply #54 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 09:12:20 »

Waiting for my Filco too! USPS tracking system says it's in "Acceptance". I wish it was next week already.

jkkhop · « **Reply #55 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 09:34:54 »

By the way.. I ordered the one with blank keys (the regular one was out of stock). By looking at the pictures in elitekeyboards.com, the regular FKBN87M/EB looks shiny and blacker than the FKBN87M/NPEK, which looks like it had a black matte finish on the whole kb, not just the keys.

Do you know if the two really look just the same except for the letters on the FKBN87M/EB?

ch_123 · « **Reply #56 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 09:54:11 »

I couldnt see much of a difference (aside from the lack of lettering) but the lettering on the lettered ones supposedly has a problem with fading off and becoming shiny, so if the blank ones are of a different finish, perhaps they might be more durable?

jkkhop · « **Reply #57 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:06:03 »

All right.. Thanks ch_123 and ripster for the input.

itlnstln · « **Reply #58 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:10:12 »

Quote from: ch_123;97333

I couldnt see much of a difference (aside from the lack of lettering) but the lettering on the lettered ones supposedly has a problem with fading off and becoming shiny, so if the blank ones are of a different finish, perhaps they might be more durable?

The lettering doesn't come off, just the coating.

jkkhop · « **Reply #59 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:14:30 »

Quote from: ripster;97339

NP - odd that you said the Blue Cherry Lettered keyboard was out of stock. I just checked it and it seems to be in stock (added it to cart).

No it's the Brown Cherry Filco I was talking about! The guy told me in an email that the lettered one was out of stock, so I picked the Otaku one

lam47 · « **Reply #60 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:17:27 »

So this coating. Does it wear away that quickly? I do not like the sound of that at all.

jkkhop · « **Reply #61 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:21:53 »

Filco's naming scheme is unnecessarily complicated tbh

itlnstln · « **Reply #62 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:26:04 »

Quote from: lam47;97342

So this coating. Does it wear away that quickly? I do not like the sound of that at all.

Give it about 3-4 weeks. You will start to notice the wear on oft-used keys like R, S, T, L, N, and E. You can wash your hands all you want. It's coming off. It happened on my ABSs and the Filco.

jkkhop · « **Reply #63 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:31:06 »

Quote from: itlnstln

Give it about 3-4 weeks. You will start to notice the wear on oft-used keys like R, S, T, L, N, and E. You can wash your hands all you want. It's coming off. It happened on my ABSs and the Filco.

Fudge.. So IBM/Topre don't have this coating and don't wear in? I'm might be starting to get interested in the HHKB Pro 2

lam47 · « **Reply #64 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:35:33 »

I wont be using it if it makes shiny spots. I hate how that looks.
No need to worry about the letters as I ordered the blank one.
I guess any key does become shiny after a while no matter how it is made.
My HH has a spot just starting on the space bar.

Seems silly to make this coating that only lasts a few weeks? Whats the point of it?

itlnstln · « **Reply #65 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:36:45 »

Quote from: jkkhop;97347

Fudge.. So IBM/Topre don't have this coating and don't wear in? I'm might be starting to get interested in the HHKB Pro 2

No. Those keys have textured plastic. They won't go shiny for quite some time (they will, eventually, with enough use). Costar used smooth plastic keys with a matte and sort of textured coating (think of a clear coat on a car). Since you are touching the keys with your fingers (at least I hope you are), the oils from your skin break down the coating and, eventually, wear it away. Since the coating is more ***ile than plastic, it doesn't take near as long for it to wear away. You can wash you hands all you want, but you will always have some sort of oils on your skin, so wearing off the coating is inevitable.

itlnstln · « **Reply #66 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:45:21 »

When majestouch gets the blank keycaps in, those won't be coated, so they will be shiny from the start (I assume). I am going to replace my caps with those, and then they will all be equally shiny. When the caps go shiny, it's not like a mirror finish, it's still pretty matte. It's just not quite as matte as the keys with the coating intact. It's not something you really see unless you are studying the keys.

lam47 · « **Reply #67 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:58:53 »

Right so will the blank Filco I have ordered have the coating or not?
I don't suppose anyone has photos of this?
Thanks for the info itlnstln.

itlnstln · « **Reply #68 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:07:54 »

Quote from: lam47;97363

Right so will the blank Filco I have ordered have the coating or not?
I don't suppose anyone has photos of this?
Thanks for the info itlnstln.

Yes, the blank Filco will have the coating. According to majestouch, they spray the coating on the keycaps after the caps have been mounted to the switches. Since the blank caps majestouch will be getting are straight off the production line and haven't been mounted, they will not have the coating. To me, that's an odd process (mount caps, then spray), but they are the manufacturing experts. I would have thought it would have been easier to spray them off the switches.

If you look in the original "Filcos in the USA" thread (I think that's the title), majestouch shows a pic of his personal keyboard. In that pic, you can see a little of the shinyness, but it's kinda hard to see. I only noticed it, because I saw the same thing on my ABSs.

lam47 · « **Reply #69 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:25:35 »

Good to know mate

I will go and have a look at the thread.
Do you know when these key caps are supposed to be available. I could do with a set for my HH too actually.
Looking forward to it. I just realized I don't have any Cherry boards! Now that is just wrong.

ssb · « **Reply #70 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:47:00 »

Even Topre keys are getting shining marks after a while.

lam47 · « **Reply #71 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:54:04 »

Nooooooooooooooooooooo I don't like the shine.
I can't see the reasoning behind Filco using a coating that wears away so fast and yet still use it as an advertised feature of the board.
Good job I dont have oily hands.

itlnstln · « **Reply #72 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:57:23 »

Quote from: lam47;97386

Good job I dont have oily hands.

I don't, either. In fact, mine are probably too dry. It doesn't seem to matter, though.

itlnstln · « **Reply #73 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:04:52 »

Quote from: ripster;97391

What's funny about this discussion is that we are talking about plastics here. When I talk "well made" to my Dad he says METAL baby!

I would love to have a keyboard made from anodized aluminum. The keys would never go shiny then. They would have a nice grippy feel, too.

ssb · « **Reply #74 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:12:30 »

Quote from: itlnstln;97394

I would love to have a keyboard made from anodized aluminum. The keys would never go shiny then.

Don't bet on it. The only keycaps then never go shiny are ...glossy ones. :biggrin:

majestouch · « **Reply #75 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 13:44:03 »

I often wonder if the type and thickness of the keycap plastic chosen dictate what other process can be applied to the plastic; i.e. how much physical texture can be created. If you look closely at the surface of a Realforce key, you'll see they have a physical texture to them, but it differs slightly not only from key to key but from board to board, so I think this is not a simple process. However, even physical texture will wear down over time. I think the coated texture on my 3+ year old FILCO has worn gracefully; slower than some others report, but everyone has differing amounts of oil/dirt/roughness/fingernails at their fingertips. And unless you shine a bright light on my 3 year old keys, then the wear isn't obvious, it blends well.

As for blank Topre keys, blank Realforce keys don't look to be available, but HHKB will be.

lam47 · « **Reply #76 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 15:04:17 »

Well that is more reassuring!
Good news on the HH keys too. Do you know what the price will be yet?

Oh and sorry to just keep asking what you will be stocking but

How about the red escape keys for the filco boards?
I will be sure to order some more smaller items from you that I know customs will not stop and charge an arm and a leg for

ssb · « **Reply #77 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 16:17:30 »

Quote from: majestouch;97440

As for blank Topre keys, blank Realforce keys don't look to be available, but HHKB will be.

What about labeled ones; are they available as spare parts?

lam47 · « **Reply #78 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:14:33 »

Hey ripster. Do the Windows keys on your Das fit in with the Filco keys? I have some spare Das ones and will replace the ones on the Filco with the blob on if they look the same.

ch_123 · « **Reply #79 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:17:01 »

Most important question of them all - how is the wrist-rest?

Hamps · « **Reply #80 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:17:59 »

I'm still stuck on

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Next scheduled tracking update: Jun 18, 2009

How's it sound and feel in comparison to the Das? I suppose I could wait to find out myself but... URGH C'MON FEDEX

lam47 · « **Reply #81 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:56:23 »

I like the look of these

http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1244426282

o2dazone · « **Reply #82 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 18:04:30 »

Leopold products

ch_123 · « **Reply #83 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 18:13:26 »

I'd prefer the blue/purple. That said, I'd probably get both - use purple for WASD and orange for arrows

watduzhkstand4 · « **Reply #84 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 18:27:16 »

Quote from: ch_123;97517

I'd prefer the blue/purple. That said, I'd probably get both - use purple for WASD and orange for arrows

yes I love that idea! Now where are we gonna get it? the purple WASD are coming with the Filco board but I still want the purple ones without the WASD. I like it either only with the arrows on the front of the key or nothing at all =)

watduzhkstand4 · « **Reply #85 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 19:08:49 »

Quote from: ripster;97521

By the way, not to sound ungrateful or anything, but the Topre Red ESC key PWNs the Filco Red ESC key. When I have time I'll take pics and show you why.

how are they different?

Also, what happened to the blank keys thread? Are we still going to do it?

majestouch · « **Reply #86 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 19:11:17 »

Quote from: ripster;97521

I don't speak Korean but if you look at the bottom of the page it looks to me like they are doing a poll of what color keys people want next. Better get some Korean buddies if you want custom color keys.

By the way, not to sound ungrateful or anything, but the Topre Red ESC key PWNs the Filco Red ESC key. When I have time I'll take pics and show you why.

When you look at the keys side by side, the Topre key has thicker more opaque plastic and a nice texture, but then again it comes with a keyboard that has a NASA price tag

I think the lightweight plastic used for FILCO keys compliment Cherry MX switches. Anything heavier would probably dull the tactility and fast action, but then I'm biased as always...

loofa · « **Reply #87 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 19:15:41 »

I'm really enjoying my cherry-blue Filco that arrived this afternoon. I prefer it to the brown version that I've only had for a week.

watduzhkstand4 · « **Reply #88 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 20:26:21 »

Quote from: loofa;97531

I'm really enjoying my cherry-blue Filco that arrived this afternoon. I prefer it to the brown version that I've only had for a week.

I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered tomorrow!

DrunkenDonut · « **Reply #89 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 22:28:17 »

4 more (business?) days until I can play.. apparently it's leaving Toledo now.

o2dazone · « **Reply #90 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 22:51:37 »

how much you want for that red topre esc key

o2dazone · « **Reply #91 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 23:18:31 »

watduzhkstand4 · « **Reply #92 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 23:47:24 »

I wish there was a red esc key for the Filco. I asked majestouch he said he's still tryna get some more, so instead I will be getting the red Filco key. =(

majestouch · « **Reply #93 on:** Thu, 18 June 2009, 23:57:17 »

Quote from: ripster;97546

Geez, Majestouch. All I was going to say was that I like the Blood Red color of the Topre key better than the Candy Red of the Filco. It was FREE after all. You better have a color calibrated monitor or you won't see the true color difference.

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But since you mention it.....

The Filco is pretty thin compared to the other keycaps of mine. The Topre for example is 1.37mm.

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I'll take Majestouch's word that it helps give it that lively bouncy feel.

Good pic, looks accurate on my Eizo

Thank you for using the metric system!

Yes, lively and bouncey...

ironcoder · « **Reply #94 on:** Fri, 19 June 2009, 03:14:31 »

Quote from: ripster;97546

But since you mention it.....

The Filco is pretty thin compared to the other keycaps of mine. The Topre for example is 1.37mm.

I'll take Majestouch's word that it helps give it that lively bouncy feel.

Nah, that's what gives it the "NASA" price. Have you seen the price for a ton of alloy powder these days? To hell with orange futures...

lam47 · « **Reply #95 on:** Fri, 19 June 2009, 03:23:08 »

What do you use the vernier for on a day to day basis ripster?

ironcoder · « **Reply #96 on:** Fri, 19 June 2009, 03:32:45 »

That's kind of a personal question, ain't it?

lam47 · « **Reply #97 on:** Fri, 19 June 2009, 08:18:29 »

Do the purple keys have the coating? I have some of them here and think they do.
Its pretty subtle if they do.

o2dazone · « **Reply #98 on:** Fri, 19 June 2009, 08:38:21 »

Quote from: ironcoder;97573

That's kind of a personal question, ain't it?

watduzhkstand4 · « **Reply #99 on:** Fri, 19 June 2009, 11:48:46 »

For sure this is my favorite keyboard =]
- Built quality is just superb.
- Weight is just perfect so that when I'm typing, the keyboard makes no movement.

Thanks to geekhack for this amazing forum and thanks again to Majestouch for bringing us all the pleasure. =)

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Author Topic: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!! (Read 12848 times)