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Offline Konrad

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« Reply #50 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 12:29:35 »
Logitech and Microsoft not making any mechanicals ... you claim that's just cynicism?  I'd say it's flat reality; those thieving corpers are migrating over to resistive membrane keyboards, not even as good as rubbers, let alone mechanicals.

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« Reply #51 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 15:20:54 »
As I understand it, it's a plastic membrane keyboard which has a resistor matrix (and the usual contact points) screenprinted directly onto/into the membrane plastics with a conductive ink. Sort of the same X-Y principle as old (resistive) touchscreen panels, though tangled up (and maybe layered) like a regular key matrix. By measuring voltage drops between sets of keys (through an ADC input in the keyboard controller chip) and comparing the differentials against a little (firmware coded) lookup table, you can effectively duplicate the functionality of a full (or lots) KRO diode-matrix layout. Diodes are really cheap, but screenprinting in mass quantities is even cheaper, plus typical cheap**** gutless keyboard microcontrollers already have ADC input lines (previously dedicated towards debounce, I think, though that's not necessary with this sort of implementation). Microsoft already has at least one such keyboard on market (one of the SideWinders, I think); their marketing spin on it emphasizes that it's "superior" to mechanical keyboards (insofar as the context of comparing it's NKRO "antighosting" against selected 2KRO mechanical models).
 
I'm not sure, but I think the tech can (with a beefy enough microcontroller) also measure relative key pressure as well. Maybe it's what MS uses in that multitouch/accessibility prototype thingy they announced a year or so back.
 
Maybe it's called a Resistor Grid Membrane or Resistive Key Matrix or whatever. Doesn't change the fact that it's still a membrane keyboard which lacks any sort of real keyswitches. Great if you spill liquid on it, otherwise blatantly inferior even compared against rubber polydomes. Cheap and disposable, welcome to the future.
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« Reply #52 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 16:40:35 »
Not mistrust.  Antitrust.

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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 21:02:11 »
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What the heck is that?  I like it...


I 2nd that request, that is one nice keyboard and i'd also like to know what it is....?
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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 21:41:31 »
If someone doesn't make a decent inline converter for XT and IBM terminal keyboards available within the next year, I will be shocked.

I also predict that if the new Commodore 64 is at all successful, then there will be an awakening among non-believers as they are forced to experience blue Cherries switches.
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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 22:04:45 »
Quote from: Konrad;271297

I'm not sure, but I think the tech can (with a beefy enough microcontroller) also measure relative key pressure as well. Maybe it's what MS uses in that multitouch/accessibility prototype thingy they announced a year or so back.


I'd love to see that feature. When I saw the demo video last year (actually in 2009) 2 things crossed my mind: fps and racing games.
It will be amazing for racing games if those keyboards are also nkro, or even better x4's kro for usb. For fps games it'll need to be implemented in actual games but it has a lot of potential

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 22:14:01 »
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What's a resistive membrane?


It's like when people talk about "Ohmic Switching" - i.e. a switch.

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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 31 December 2010, 22:25:54 »
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What's a resistive membrane?
Inexperienced.
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Offline toholio

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« Reply #58 on: Sun, 27 March 2011, 23:24:41 »
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Bluetooth mechanicals.


I wish this would happen but I've given up hope. I certainly don't think we'll see it this year.

No doubt if we do there'll be no option for Mac key caps...

For now I'm using a five year old Apple Bluetooth keyboard which is barely adequate. I'd upgrade to their current model but they've cut off the number pad and other keys. It's a pity because despite the thinness it's not unpleasant to type on.

I suppose I could buy a Model M and hack bluetooth into it.

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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 28 March 2011, 02:08:09 »
If your predictions are accurate then ripster I need to pick up a cheap model M before they get really expensive.
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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 28 March 2011, 06:03:05 »
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I am glad to report that two of my predictions in the OP are indeed true.   Comptek2wks over $300 and a US bought Filco I got from Amazon a few days ago.


I thought your prediction was a NEW USA distributor for Filco. That sure wouldn't be correct.

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 21 April 2011, 10:08:07 »
Well, Is a HHKB 3 in production? Anyone know?
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« Reply #62 on: Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:49:57 »
I predict that more of THESE will improve interest in mechanical keyboards...

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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:06:42 »
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Where's that dude that reported me to iMav as always going off topic?

I predict future threadcrapping in the Classifieds.

Lol, someone reported you? Did iMav give you a warning or something?
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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:47:49 »
You should ask your friends if they know about the HHKB 3
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Offline audioave10

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 21 April 2011, 23:10:59 »
Hey Ripster...I clearly mentioned "mechanical keyboards" in my post (and I would never report you).
on topic:
I predict that finally I'll find the elusive "Space Saving" in a flea market for $25.00. (going way out on a limb there)
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Offline digitalleftovers

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 21 April 2011, 23:13:40 »
According to wikipedia, the HHKB Pro 1 was EOL after only 3 years in production.  Haven't you been predicting an HHKB 3 since 2009?
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« Reply #67 on: Fri, 22 April 2011, 10:32:33 »
Did that happen?

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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 22 April 2011, 10:41:42 »
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I predict a NIB IBM Model M Space Saver will sell for 400$ on ebay in 2011.


Yeahhhhh...
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Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 22 April 2011, 10:45:14 »
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No.  This is clear by reading any of his posts from that time period.

He DID post about having sex with his Realforce 87U...

Ewwwww...

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« Reply #70 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 20:17:33 »
You're six for seven so far.

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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 08:04:13 »
- There will be more backlit Cherry MX based boards
- There will be a tenkeyless version of the Poker
- Lots of new funky MX caps
- More MX clones

Offline N8N

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« Reply #72 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 08:08:54 »
Deck will still be the only manufacturer selling keyboards with MX clears in the US...
Filco Majestouch-2 with Cherry Corp. doubleshot keys - Leopold Tenkeyless Tactile Force with Wyse doubleshots - Silicon Graphics 9500900 - WASD V1 - IBM Model M 52G9658 - Noppoo Choc Pro with Cherry lasered PBT keycaps - Wyse 900866-01 - Cherry G80-8200LPBUS/07 - Dell AT101W - several Cherry G81s (future doubleshot donors) (order of current preference) (dang I have too many keyboards, I really only need two)

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« Reply #73 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 08:09:13 »
- There will be more backlit Cherry MX based boards
- There will be a tenkeyless version of the Poker
- Lots of new funky MX caps
- More MX clones

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 17 August 2011, 20:11:13 »
I will continue to use my M5-2 and my assortment of cheap old rubber domes.
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« Reply #75 on: Wed, 17 August 2011, 21:38:47 »
I predict that MW won't clean his basement.

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 18 August 2011, 12:25:00 »
I predict that millions of people will continue to use Microsoft Internet Explorer 6, the fastest browser capable of loading modern web pages.
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« Reply #77 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 04:14:26 »
You're good.

Offline Symmetry

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« Reply #78 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 12:10:20 »
ANSI-layout keyboards come back, at least in a few models available in multiple MX switch types.
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« Reply #79 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 12:20:59 »
i predict pinging
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« Reply #80 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 17:49:56 »
Maybe 2012 will see some new switches? We got the fake yellow cherries this year, who knows what the next 12 months will bring?
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« Reply #81 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:36:23 »
Did any of your predictions come true?
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                                                               IN THE YEAR 2011

KEYBOARDS WILL BE KNOWN ACROSS THE WORLD AS THE HOTTEST GENDER-NEUTRAL FASHION ACCESSORY