Author Topic: We Need A Better Name For BigAss Asian Enter Keys (Read 16732 times)

squarebox · « **on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 20:03:28 »

Maybe we should call it "Gamer-Enter" as Ducky proclaimed it is preferred by gamers?

msiegel · « **Reply #1 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 20:53:39 »

with minor tweaking we get:

ANSI
ISO
Backward L
BIGASS

there, perfect!

quadibloc · « **Reply #2 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 21:11:50 »

Well, the shape for the really large enter keys comes from the keyboard for the IBM Personal Computer AT, so they could be called AT enter keys.

Oh, and that's for the really big style, not the backwards-L style.

Pylon · « **Reply #3 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 21:40:28 »

That looks more like the smaller NeXT enter.

nanu · « **Reply #4 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 21:47:37 »

The true beauty of the backwards L shape is to spiritually affirm that symbolic arrow legend. What we all want at the end of the day, after straying so far away is to Return Home. A new day, a New line to which we can continue our journey.

JinDesu · « **Reply #5 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 21:48:35 »

I'm asian (see name, it's proof), and we usually call those big ass enter keys "Big Ass Enter Keys".

Nadger · « **Reply #6 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 22:59:55 »

the BIGass one is close to the same shape as the state of Utah rotated counter clockwise =p

Mormon Enter? =x
UT
Handicapped Enter

Mr. Perfect · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon, 10 January 2011, 23:51:03 »

Quote from: JinDesu;276434

I'm asian (see name, it's proof), and we usually call those big ass enter keys "Big Ass Enter Keys".

Have you got some sort of nickname for it though? If it was American, we'd probably call it the booty key. Possibly the badonkadonk key, depending on how you roll.

Yes, I know, that was pretty bad.:banplease:

quadibloc · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 00:04:09 »

I have a WANG CRT terminal that has a Selectric II style Enter. But that kind of Enter key, although it has indeed been around a long time, on a lot of ASCII terminals, isn't even the "inverted-L" type, because it's significantly smaller. The inverted-L is as wide on top as one normal key; the AT-style one is one and a half keys wide on top; and the Selectric II style is only 3/4 of a key wide on top.

taswyn · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 00:43:29 »

I like to call them abominations, but maybe that's just me >.>;; What a terrible use of space, and I imagine a mess to stabilize well too =X

"AT style" seems like it might be more widely acceptable and understood, though =P

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Although technically they've been around longer.

And now we understand why you've been trying to call the abominable ones ISO, you're clearly suffering from a psychological condition that leaves you blind to keyfattiness (and possibly some vertical orientation mirroring issues), if you think that's the same as those terrible wide ones xD

At the same time, I do wonder what the point to that selectric II style thin backwards 'L' enter key is. Just for aesthetic reasons to fill in the end of that row without using an odd width on the EXP key? The vertical bar portion doesn't really look as if it was even really intended to be hit? With it at the edge it could certainly be done, but it doesn't seem like it would be practical to use it that way over hitting the more normal sized horizontal portion. Intriguing!

HaaTa · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 00:49:10 »

Then what's this one?

msiegel · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 00:51:05 »

ridiculASS

squarebox · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 00:55:06 »

Quote from: HaaTa;276500

Then what's this one?

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Humongofragilisticexpialidocious Enter

quadibloc · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 00:59:09 »

Quote from: HaaTa;276500

Then what's this one?

Ah. That doesn't belong to the inverted-L family. That belongs to the ISO family.

It bears the same relation to the AT-style inverted L as the Return key on a classic Selectric does to the Selectric II-style inverted L. Obviously, I need to find my Signature Plastics catalogue...

biziclop · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 01:52:50 »

Bigfoot?

db_Iodine · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 01:55:25 »

Quote from: HaaTa;276500

Then what's this one?

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That's FAT ass ISO.

Shawn Stanford · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 05:33:10 »

Cue Sir Mix-A-Lot...

sixty · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 05:34:51 »

I had almost guessed the official Asian name also would be bigass enter key, since i recognized the DAI Kanji (meaning Big, Huge) on the Ducky box for that one.

I guess it stays bigass enter key then.

7bit · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 05:36:16 »

Quote from: ripster;276379

It's pretty clear the ANSI/ISO designations. Last time I called a Ducky bigass Enter key ISO the Europeans lynched me.

But anybody know the official name? What is it called in China?

If we can't come up with something I'll use these designations.
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What about:

m-shape, J-shape, L-shape and L-shape, or if bold not available, LL-shape?

godly_music · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 05:40:42 »

How about ANSI, ISO, inverted L, wide inverted L and wide ISO? (never seen that one, ugly bastard)

I likes to keep it simple.

bugfix · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 05:41:50 »

Quote from: godly_music;276602

How about ANSI, ISO, inverted L, wide inverted L and wide ISO? (never seen that one, ugly bastard)

I likes to keep it simple.

I second this.

Findecanor · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 05:59:09 »

Keytronic calls it an "Inverted L-shaped Enter Key".

Twitchy · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 07:37:12 »

J-shaped?

theferenc · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 07:43:13 »

Yeah, to me the ISO looks like a rotated L, and these big ass keys look J shaped. I've never understood why they are used opposite to that.

Edit: the ISO keys also look like that tetramino, but I don't recall its name. 2 wide on top, 3 tall, 1 wide on bottom 2 segments.

7bit · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 07:46:43 »

Quote from: theferenc;276646

Yeah, to me the ISO looks like a rotated L, and these big ass keys look J shaped. I've never understood why they are used opposite to that.

Edit: the ISO keys also look like that tetramino, but I don't recall its name. 2 wide on top, 3 tall, 1 wide on bottom 2 segments.

It is exactly the other way round for me.

What about "P lying on his spine, viewed from the opposite direction" for the Big-Ass one?

What about "¶ lying on his spine"?

Or just ANSI+|\-waste-key?

Or for people from Sun culture:
ANSI+BACKSPACE-waste-key!

Twitchy · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 08:09:44 »

J just fits. You don't have to do anything to it, flip it, spin it, whatever, it just fits.

db_Iodine · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 08:15:04 »

Quote from: Twitchy;276663

J just fits. You don't have to do anything to it, flip it, spin it, whatever, it just fits.

J-enter sounds boring. Let's just stick with bigass and BIGass.

7bit · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 08:18:58 »

Quote from: Twitchy;276663

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Soarer · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 08:55:49 »

bigass for the reverse L shaped one doesn't really suit it, it's actually quite skinny.
So maybe it's the skinny bigass?!!
It's the only one that actually matches a letter well, tbh.

'ANSI' and 'ISO' are unambiguous, so a letter is just more confusing.

The wide ISO is so uncommon it doesn't need a name (wide ISO will do).

CeeSA · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 09:06:55 »

let's call it "buzzer"

Twitchy · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 09:09:47 »

Troll shaped

ch_123 · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 09:12:36 »

I'd almost call it a Selectric-style enter, given that the enter that showed up on the Displaywriter, and later the AT keyboard is the same as the original Selectric enter, but with a chunk taken out to fit an extra key on the row above the home row.

woody · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 09:43:39 »

I had the BIGass for many years. The beauty of it, is that the key layout remains pretty much ANSI (104) - you either have the backslash/pipe on the right of the shortened RShift, or on the left or the shortened BackSpace.

With that said, I think it's better to be named "big/high ANSI", "1.5 ANSI" or something.

quadibloc · « **Reply #33 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 12:33:36 »

Having managed to navigate my way around the Signature Plastics web site, I can now tell you what those keys are officially called.

The ANSI Enter is: 1 x 2 - row 3.

The ISO Enter is: 1.5 x 2 x 1.25 x 1 - row 2/3

The small backwards J Enter is: 1 x 2 x 1.75 x 1 - row 2/3

The AT-style Enter is: 1.5 x 2 x 2.25 x 1 - row 2/3

And that large SONY Enter is: 2.5 x 2 x 2.25 x 1 - row 2/3

duq · « **Reply #34 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 12:38:53 »

+1 vote for naming the "big ass" key "bigfoot"

HaaTa · « **Reply #35 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 12:48:34 »

And to screw with you guys even more:

HaaTa · « **Reply #36 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 12:50:48 »

This one is easy, uTron enter:

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #37 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 12:57:03 »

The Steelseries 7G have this BIGass enter and seriously it's kind of funnny type with it.

keyb_gr · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 13:13:43 »

Quote from: quadibloc;276837

Having managed to navigate my way around the Signature Plastics web site, I can now tell you what those keys are officially called.

The ANSI Enter is: 1 x 2 - row 3.

The ISO Enter is: 1.5 x 2 x 1.25 x 1 - row 2/3

The small backwards J Enter is: 1 x 2 x 1.75 x 1 - row 2/3

The AT-style Enter is: 1.5 x 2 x 2.25 x 1 - row 2/3

And that large SONY Enter is: 2.5 x 2 x 2.25 x 1 - row 2/3

JFTR, these dimensions seem to be side lengths starting at the top and going clockwise, in units of letter key size. Remaining sides are implied.

Lanx · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 13:13:51 »

this is how i view them anyways, by region and usually it basically works.

Pylon · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 14:14:51 »

The thing with Bigfoot is that it usually refers to Alps switches. But then, most Alps had wide reverse-L enters.

Pylon · « **Reply #41 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 15:23:00 »

It also looks sorta like a hat. Just sayin'

itlnstln · « **Reply #42 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 15:24:18 »

Big asshat?

Don't talk about ripster like that.

quadibloc · « **Reply #43 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 15:34:11 »

Quote from: keyb_gr;276873

JFTR, these dimensions seem to be side lengths starting at the top and going clockwise, in units of letter key size. Remaining sides are implied.

Yes, that is correct.

I'm not sure how they adapt the system for keys like the Maltron Enter, where the broken side is on the other side of the key. One way would be to start at the bottom for keys that have the stair-step on the right.

RoboKrikit · « **Reply #44 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 16:09:32 »

ANSI, ISO, bigass, fatass.

Bigass also looks like ANSI with morning wood.

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #45 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 18:14:51 »

I vote Bigfoot.

Pylon · « **Reply #46 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 20:15:35 »

Then we need to correct the Alps wiki to avoid confusion.

Airscrew · « **Reply #47 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 20:36:53 »

I wish people would make the distinction between a Return key and an Enter key.

Return is the key on the main keyboard, which takes its heritage from typewriters.
Enter is the key on the numeric keypad, which takes its heritage from adding machines.

msiegel · « **Reply #48 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 20:40:16 »

apple aluminum still makes a distinction

msiegel · « **Reply #49 on:** Tue, 11 January 2011, 20:45:11 »

i'm not sayin' it's right; i'm just sayin'.

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Author Topic: We Need A Better Name For BigAss Asian Enter Keys (Read 16732 times)

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