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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 15:50:07 »
Every organism on this planet is a product of their environment.  When the masses are taught pro-war propaganda their entire life, what do you expect?  :Continues watching TV while endless amounts of lives are destroyed in the current war most have forgot about or turn a blind eye to:
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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 16:56:56 »
Are you the one who won that troll poll?
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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 17:19:45 »
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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 17:36:05 »
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What, this quote?
"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
I did find a web site which claimed that Menachem Begin "in essence" said that in a speech in the Knesset. Which makes me wonder what he really did say. Probably something far more innocuous.

Some Googling has sorted this out. Apparently, Jimmy Carter did say something in his memoirs about Begin being bigoted against non-Jews. Someone running an anti-Jewish web site then came up with a version of that quote to illustrate how bad bigotry is - and then from there others have attributed this attempt to illustrate what Begin's attitudes "really meant" to Begin himself as at least an approximation of his words.
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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 17:55:14 »
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I did find a web site which claimed that Menachem Begin "in essence" said that in a speech in the Knesset. Which makes me wonder what he really did say. Probably something far more innocuous.


BTW is what they think, and what they have demonstrated they think with facts. And thats should matter.

Instead what matters is how strong the jaws electors are during the elections in the US.
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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 19:14:05 »
I'd rather vote for the people in charge of selecting the presidential nominees other than pre-chosen presidential nominees. Ron Paul is controlled opposition to give people false hope so no one starts rebelling.  Once one understands how the Zionists operate, you can see right through them.  

I ask of you all to pay attention to TV broadcasts, especially kids shows, and keep thinking to yourself "drugs, sex or depiction of intimate relationship and flirtatious pre-13yr. old's, and violence/misfortune."  Now let's switch it up and start thinking about "peace, love, and prosperity."  Sharing your observations will be greatly appreciated and i'm eager to hear from you.

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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 03:14:44 »
http://www.corbettreport.com/against-utopia/

Some TL;DR stuff that doesn't need it's own thread.

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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 06:40:20 »
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I'd rather vote for the people in charge of selecting the presidential nominees rather than pre-chosen presidential nominees. Ron Paul is controlled opposition to give people false hope so no one starts rebelling.  Once one understands how the Zionists operate, you can see through them.  I ask of you all to pay attention to TV broadcasts, especially kids shows, and keep thinking to yourself "drugs, sex or flirtatious pre-13yr. old's, and violence/misfortune."  Now let's switch it up and start thinking about "peace, love, and prosperity."  Sharing your observations will be greatly appreciated and i'm eager to hear from you.


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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 08:13:48 »
Lol ^

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« Reply #59 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 08:20:09 »


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« Reply #60 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 09:01:23 »
bluecar5556, we need to talk.

Whether or not your core argument is valid or not, you're coming off looking like a raving lunatic. I understand that you are passionate about this topic, but the way you frame your arguments is hurting your cause

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« Reply #61 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 09:15:32 »
I'm sure I could word things that appeal to the general public but that is not my intent.  The truth hurts and ignorance is bliss if no one cares about our future generations, pick your poison...

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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 09:35:03 »
I still don't get why you're so anti-Semitic, it's quite idiotic TBH.

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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 09:49:54 »
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If you think i'm racist, that is quite ironic judging by what Israel's national flag is representing saying hey, Jews only!
Besides, i'm only talking about Israeli Zionist Jews.  My jewish friends are not zionist, therefore they are my friends.

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Can you elaborate on the "star of david" symbolism depicted on Israel's national flag?  I still don't get why you think i'm anti-Semitic, it's quite ironic.

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« Reply #64 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 10:03:18 »
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I'm sure I could word things that appeal to the general public but that is not my intent.  The truth hurts and ignorance is bliss if no one cares about our future generations, pick your poison...


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« Reply #65 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 10:11:13 »
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That wasn't worded to the best of my ability but my point is the masses are not educated in public schools about how economics and the world actually operate.  If you are offended, I apologize because that was NOT my intent!

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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 10:11:30 »
Israel was established as a Jewish state regardless of what you believe in. I agree there were Zionist aspirations but the Star of David is just a Jewish symbol from David's shield that brought his nation luck, that as the reason it is on the Israeli flag. I recommend you not quote that ridiculous Begin thing again because it's well-known nobody said that other than an anti-Semitic journalist.

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 10:13:22 »
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I still don't get why you're so anti-Semitic, it's quite idiotic TBH.


Frankly I think that calling antisemitic any form of critics against the Israel behavior in the latest 60 years is just wrong.

Sooner or later you Americans should realize that most of the Islamic fanaticism and consequent terrorism is just a natural consequence of the actions of the Israel governments.

Backing them is idiotic.
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« Reply #68 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 10:14:46 »
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Israel was established as a Jewish state regardless of what you believe in. I agree there were Zionist aspirations but the Star of David is just a Jewish symbol from David's shield that brought his nation luck, that as the reason it is on the Israeli flag. I recommend you not quote that ridiculous Begin thing again because it's well-known nobody said that other than an anti-Semitic journalist.
"Israel was established as a Jewish state regardless of what you believe in."
"David's shield that brought his nation luck"

Do you smell something?

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« Reply #69 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 10:25:49 »
Could be me. I'm out of cologne and deodorant.

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« Reply #70 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:26:11 »
Bluecar only wants to convince the fringe, not educate the masses. Smell that?
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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:33:43 »
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Bluecar only wants to convince the fringe, not educate the masses. Smell that?
It's not my fault the majority take the mainstream media the very Israeli Zionist Jews dominate as truth other than actually questioning and thinking for themselves.  

Besides, if one has no frame (get it) of reference to what i'm discussing, of course it will sound like i'm a "raving lunatic."  I don't water down for no one.  Take this knowledge for what it's worth, the "truth" is in the eyes of the beholder.



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« Reply #72 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:36:49 »
Did you join a keyboard forum just to post in a political thread?

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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:38:03 »
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Did you join a keyboard forum just to post in a political thread?
There are a lot of those type of people on the internet. The best we can do is mock them.

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:40:07 »
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Did you join a keyboard forum just to post in a political thread?
Actually no, I joined this awesome website to contribute with my split kinesis keyboard mod in my sig.  This is on topic, no?

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« Reply #75 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 19:03:26 »
The Israeli Zionist jews are often referred to the illuminati.  That being said, check this out.

Take the word illuminati and spell it backwards, you will get "itanimulli".  Now take the backwards spelling and make it into a link.

www.itanimulli.com

Type the above url or click the link above and see where it takes you.

Why would the National Security Agencies website be 'illuminati' backwards...dot com, you just can't make this stuff up! This is insane how or why for that matter could they have missed this.

Still doesn't show why they don't remove/block the link even if someone created the link on the DNS server, they are the National Security Agency.

It's the NSA, they must know about this and I think they are hosting it themselves.

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« Reply #76 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 20:34:04 »
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« Reply #77 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 20:40:25 »
Embedding disabled by request on the Tom and Jerry cartoon...  Click "Watch on YouTube" to view

It's titled "Tom & Jerry Illuminati Pyramid & Satan Worship (ENGLISH VERSION)" if it gets disabled.

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« Reply #78 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 21:42:47 »
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Sooner or later you Americans should realize that most of the Islamic fanaticism and consequent terrorism is just a natural consequence of the actions of the Israel governments.
No, the Arabs started it.

That is not to say, however, that Israel should take any actions that result in unnecessary hardship or suffering for innocent Palestinians. And if protecting itself from the terrorists makes some problems necessary - less would be necessary if Israel were not acting from a position of weakness.

So I would be in favor of getting the settlers out of the West Bank, and having U.S. troops stationed in the area to ensure that no terrorist acts are launched from there against Israel.

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« Reply #79 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 21:49:41 »
Right, the terrorist acts will be launched against the US army instead.  Everyone wins!  Oh, wait...
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« Reply #80 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 21:59:22 »
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No, the Arabs started it.


I would be curious to see what happened if the UN decided that the American continent belongs to the native Americans  and all people from US, Canada, Brazil and so on, should go back to Europe.

This is what happened in Palestine.

I'm sure that the actual Americans will be glad to left the continent, w/o any violence. A peaceful evacuation, isn't it ?

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So I would be in favor of getting the settlers out of the West Bank, and having U.S. troops stationed in the area to ensure that no terrorist acts are launched from there against Israel.


Obviously just Israel needs protection :smokin:
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« Reply #81 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 22:48:04 »
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Obviously just Israel needs protection :smokin:
That's no problem, American high school students acquiesce and chose R.O.T.C. as their elective.

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« Reply #82 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 22:59:43 »
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No, the Arabs started it.

That is not to say, however, that Israel should take any actions that result in unnecessary hardship or suffering for innocent Palestinians. And if protecting itself from the terrorists makes some problems necessary - less would be necessary if Israel were not acting from a position of weakness.

So I would be in favor of getting the settlers out of the West Bank, and having U.S. troops stationed in the area to ensure that no terrorist acts are launched from there against Israel.

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Ouch...


Sneaky Arabs  :doh:


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« Reply #83 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 00:09:44 »
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I would be curious to see what happened if the UN decided that the American continent belongs to the native Americans  and all people from US, Canada, Brazil and so on, should go back to Europe.
When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews.

If violent mobs were slaughtering Native Americans today, or if the American legal system turned a blind eye when young punks raped Native American girls, it would be appropriate for the UN to partition the United States and give part of it to the Native Americans. This does not happen there now - the United States is a civilized nation. But that's what was going on in Palestine, and so I don't see why there are grounds for sympathy for the Palestinians suffering some territorial consequences.

But what the UN declared in 1947 was largely fair - it gave some additional territory to the Jews of Israel, but it wasn't accompanied by ethnic cleansing, and, in fact, Israeli Arabs are legal citizens of Israel; unlike Palestinians, they have the rights of citizens.

The reaction to the 1947 partition was wildly disproportionate. The countries around Israel descended on it with the intent of driving it into the sea. Living under Arab rule was not an option for the Jews, because it was clear they would not be free, they would not be equal, in a majority Muslim state. They wouldn't have their rights to equal justice under the law, to protection from violence, securely respected the way these rights are respected in major Western democracies.

So they were not wrong to defend themselves against the incredible odds they faced. Nor were they wrong to refuse to accept the return of those who left Israel to make things easier for the invading forces.

There may be some questions about Israel's conduct today, under a Likud government, but there was very little cause for reproach in the earlier history of Israel under the Labor party.

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« Reply #84 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 01:30:09 »
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When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews
 
Would you agree every human being on this Earth instinctively attempts to preserve their own race by gathering together of their own kind, while observing history?  
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the United States is a civilized nation.
 
Civilized defines as "having a high state of culture and social development; polite."  I couldn't help but taking note the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rates compared to the rest of world.  

Also, the combining of races and television destroy culture.  Many people praise television and as a consequence, makes them more or less as identical as the exact same programming being broadcasted nationally and internationally.  

I'm curious, have you lived in the United States for any period of time?  


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But that's what was going on in Palestine, and so I don't see why there are grounds for sympathy for the Palestinians suffering some territorial consequences.  But what the UN declared in 1947 was largely fair - it gave some additional territory to the Jews of Israel.

Adolf Hitler was in power between 30 January 1933, to his death on 30 April 1945.  Coincidentally, Adolf Hitler was no longer in power when Israel "acquired" more territory, that is very provocative I might add.  I'd elaborate but people have unfortunately been so misinformed about Adolf Hitler's ideology, thanks to Israeli Zionist Jew propaganda, it is a touchy subject and I will not go into it here, ...but I will say this.  

No one is in power of Germany for twelve years due to mere "psychosis." There is a reason for everything, remember that.

 
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The countries around Israel descended on it with the intent of driving it into the sea.
 
Can you elaborate on the other countries intent to "driving Israel into the sea," please?

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« Reply #85 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 06:56:23 »
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When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews.


Could be. Jewish are considered often unpleasant for a number of reason, mostly economical reasons, but the way Jewish consider theirself as superior people has a part in that.

Basically they are the only people that mix religion and race pride, add to this the usually richness while surrounded by poor people, and you obtain an explosive mix.

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If violent mobs were slaughtering Native Americans today, or if the American legal system turned a blind eye when young punks raped Native American girls, it would be appropriate for the UN to partition the United States and give part of it to the Native Americans. This does not happen there now - the United States is a civilized nation.


Do you mean the same civilized nation that is permanently in war in one or more part of the world ?

The civilized country who has the death penalty ?

The one that in 2011 is used to fight dictators around the world only if they are in a place rich in black oil ?

Civilization of people is a nice story to tell to kids in the elementary schools.

We are still living in the middle age, who has money, power and stronger weapons wins, no one really cares about the rules.

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The reaction to the 1947 partition was wildly disproportionate.


The reaction to 1947 was too soft just because the holocaust was too close, no people in the world would accept silently a steal of their territory.
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« Reply #86 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 07:07:53 »
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Arab World has always been and still is one big nice apartheid. Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.
Yeah right ..
ANY Jew has a RIGHT to 'return home' to 'Israel'...

Do you know that ethnic Germans have a right to 'return home' to Germany and receive German citizenship irrespective of where they were born and for how many generations? Yes, exactly the same 'discriminating and racist' law of return exist in Germany and in fact in many other western nations. But only the Jewish version bothers you. I wonder why?

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« Reply #87 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 07:14:20 »
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Do you know that ethnic Germans have a right to 'return home' to Germany and receive German citizenship irrespective of where they were born and for how many generations? Yes, exactly the same 'discriminating and racist' law of return exist in Germany and in fact in many other western nations. But only the Jewish version bothers you. I wonder why?


Germans may have rights to return in GERMANY, not in POLAND.

Jews had the right to return in PALESTINE, Israel was an inexistent nation.

Noticed the "subtle" difference ?
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« Reply #88 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 07:24:03 »
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Germans may have rights to return in GERMANY, not in POLAND.

Jews had the right to return in PALESTINE, Israel was an inexistent nation.

Noticed the "subtle" difference ?

Israel's law of return was passed in 1950, after the establishment of state of Israel. Before that Jews did not have a "right" to return to Palestine. So there is no difference whatsoever.

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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 08:24:10 »
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No one is in power of Germany for twelve years due to mere "psychosis." There is a reason for everything, remember that.
Hitler attained power once in 1933. This was partly due to voters being intimidated by the Brown Shirts, but also due to the ill effects of reparations under the Treaty of Versailles combined with the Great Depression.

Afterwards, Hitler remained in power for twelve years for the same reason that Communism remained in power for over 60 years in Russia. Except that the reason was called the Gestapo in Germany, whereas it was the NKVD or the KGB in Russia. There were no elections in Germany after Hitler rose to power until Germany's defeat, and "for the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration" was the case in Germany - although the authenticity of the quote, I see, is debated. Stalin's Russia, at least, certainly did have strict gun control - even the troops weren't issued live bullets except when there was a war.

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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 09:08:35 »
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Hitler attained power once in 1933. This was partly due to voters being intimidated by the Brown Shirts, but also due to the ill effects of reparations under the Treaty of Versailles combined with the Great Depression.

Afterwards, Hitler remained in power for twelve years for the same reason that Communism remained in power for over 60 years in Russia. Except that the reason was called the Gestapo in Germany, whereas it was the NKVD or the KGB in Russia. There were no elections in Germany after Hitler rose to power until Germany's defeat, and "for the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration" was the case in Germany - although the authenticity of the quote, I see, is debated. Stalin's Russia, at least, certainly did have strict gun control - even the troops weren't issued live bullets except when there was a war.
"You must be referring to the Great Depression of 1929.  Have you ever wondered why all legal law-abiding documents, "ex. your driver's LICENSE," state your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS? This is due to your mother or guardian unknowingly signed your birth CERTIFICATE creating a CORPORATION in your name that only applies to you in CAPS. For example, if your name is John Doe then you have a corporation in your name called JOHN DOE legally defines as, "artificial person" not to be confused with John Doe termed ,"natural person," effectively removing your god given common law rights via the Social Security Act of 1935 because quite frankly, your fictional corporation has no rights.

Unfortunately, if you sign the IRS form 4361 that will opt you out of "Social Security," IRS calls "Application for Exemption From Self-Employment Tax for Use by Ministers, Members of Religious Orders and Christian Science Practitioners," they only accept people with proper documentation to prove they are indeed in a religion that is against these fraudulent practices, effectively stopping most from being truly free by not accepting the application.

Even if you did opt out of this "Social Security" that was unscrupulously implemented after the Great Depression people were suckered into, enabling them to get back on their feet from the scam of paying only 10% up front while the lending banks demand 100% of the loan back overnight, people did not have the funds for it to begin with because that's why they wanted the loan in the first place. This effectively made all competing banks go bankrupt to continue the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.  

After all, artificial inflation would be impossible when there is competing banks and is only possible after the Federal Reserve becomes the only central bank printing the entire nations money supply. You cannot do anything without a Social Security number if you are "locked into the grid" for lack of better words; no house, land, car, utilities, you get the idea... If one looks up words: Person, Employee, Employer, License, Certificate and Driver to name a few in a LAW dictionary but you don't have stop there, I encourage you to look up words you might be curious about, use your imagination.  Who in the world would create such a sneaky scheme?" -Bluecar5556

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We should all agree if we do not understand history, we are destined to repeat it.  Artificial inflation, similiar to just about everything else that grows, cannot grow forever.  The Earth's resources were unchanged, yet the masses were brought to their knees during the great depression.  Something is very wrong here, don't you think?

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« Reply #91 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 09:45:12 »
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My wife changed her name.  Judge never mentioned anything about creating a Corporation or the All Caps thing.

The judge was a woman though so she probably doesn't know that much.

I'm thinking of changing my name legally to Ripster when my post count hits 100k.

When your mother or the person who signed your birth certificate, they probably didn't tell them why humans need a fancy authentic looking birth CERTIFICATE, either.  We don't become "adults" at the age of 18 for nothing.

Your political leaders sold you out for a buck, to England, international banks, and multinational corporations. So today, you're nothing but a human resource in your leaders' eyes. Playing with your life and soul is simply business as usual.

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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:20:47 »
Man, you should really consider taking your medicine more regularly, you are losing your grip on reality.

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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:23:24 »
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Man, you should really consider taking your medicine more regularly, you are losing your grip on reality.
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I must be losing my touch on reality for being inspired by Tupac Shakur and DMX.

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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:39:40 »
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You must be referring to the Great Depression of 1935.
Well, the Great Depression I refer to was still in effect by 1935, but it started in October, 1929. After all, F.D.R. had to have some excuse for confiscating the gold in the hands of the American people in 1933.

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Have you ever wondered why all legal law-abiding documents, "ex. your driver's LICENSE," state your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?
And here I thought that it was because when the DMV replaced its trusty old IBM 407 accounting machines, and similar tabulating equipment, by more advanced computer equipment that could handle lower case, they didn't want to bother typing in all the old names they already had on punched cards again to put them in upper and lower case properly.

Surely a world-girdling insidious conspiracy like the Illuminati could have had the U.S. pass laws that made corporation names case-insensitive to better conceal their nefarious plans.

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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:45:39 »
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Well, the Great Depression I refer to was still in effect by 1935, but it started in October, 1929. After all, F.D.R. had to have some excuse for confiscating the gold in the hands of the American people in 1933.

And here I thought that it was because when the DMV replaced its trusty old IBM 407 accounting machines, and similar tabulating equipment, by more advanced computer equipment that could handle lower case, they didn't want to bother typing in all the old names they already had on punched cards again to put them in upper and lower case properly.

Surely a world-girdling insidious conspiracy like the Illuminati could have had the U.S. pass laws that made corporation names case-insensitive to better conceal their nefarious plans.
DMV stands for the Department of Motor Vehicles.  Your argument still does not explain why all legal abiding documents such as bills, your DRIVER LICENSE, court documents, name on the birth CERTIFICATE, etc. are in CAPITAL letters.  

Let's discuss the DMV by defining common words found in a law dictionary.

DRIVER - "One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle, with horses, mules, or other animals." -TheFreeDictionary

Not everyone is employed in traveling, a cab driver for instance.

LICENSE - "The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort. The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct."

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Why do I need permission to travel as people have been doing so under  their free will for millions of years that would otherwise be "illegal"  without a driver's license all of a sudden?

Considering I am not employed operating a vehicle such as a taxi driver  would be, i'm not a driver.  How is my DRIVER'S license valid if i'm not  a DRIVER by definition?

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« Reply #96 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:53:24 »
I would believe more in conspiracies if I didn't believe:

“Never attribute to evil genius/intent what can equally well be explained by thoughtlessness/stupidity.”

and the Albert Einstein quote:
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”

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« Reply #97 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:56:13 »
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When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews.

If violent mobs were slaughtering Native Americans today, or if the American legal system turned a blind eye when young punks raped Native American girls, it would be appropriate for the UN to partition the United States and give part of it to the Native Americans. This does not happen there now - the United States is a civilized nation. But that's what was going on in Palestine, and so I don't see why there are grounds for sympathy for the Palestinians suffering some territorial consequences.

But what the UN declared in 1947 was largely fair - it gave some additional territory to the Jews of Israel, but it wasn't accompanied by ethnic cleansing, and, in fact, Israeli Arabs are legal citizens of Israel; unlike Palestinians, they have the rights of citizens.

The reaction to the 1947 partition was wildly disproportionate. The countries around Israel descended on it with the intent of driving it into the sea. Living under Arab rule was not an option for the Jews, because it was clear they would not be free, they would not be equal, in a majority Muslim state. They wouldn't have their rights to equal justice under the law, to protection from violence, securely respected the way these rights are respected in major Western democracies.

So they were not wrong to defend themselves against the incredible odds they faced. Nor were they wrong to refuse to accept the return of those who left Israel to make things easier for the invading forces.

There may be some questions about Israel's conduct today, under a Likud government, but there was very little cause for reproach in the earlier history of Israel under the Labor party.

You are TOTALLY IGNORING the FACT that 'Israel' sat down and took a HUGE dump on the
UN-resolution that 'gave' them their 'State' .
'Israel' 'declared' it's 'Freedom' in total disregard of the time-plan and conditions in the UN-resolution .
And then they forced millions of Palestinians out OF THEIR OWN FRIGGING COUNTRY !
I don't give a flying **** how many Jews hitler murdered, it doesn't give THEM the right to steal other peoples country.
(And before you start on your 'anti-semite' BULL**** : HALF of my family descends from Polish Jews
You guess how many there are still left !!!)
To me, Auschwitz isn't just a name, it's the place where half of my ancestors where exterminated !
I would have liked to get to know at least some of them ..
Nonetheless, Israelis are land-grabbers and it ain't OK !!
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 11:44:37 »
I'm surprised this threat is still going...

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Nonetheless, Israelis are land-grabbers and it ain't OK !!

Everone is a "land grabber to somebody else"... for example, Slovenia lost about half of its northern territory of Carinthia to Austria in what is known as The Carinthian Plebiscite of 1920 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carinthian_Plebiscite). Do you think anyone gives a ****? Do you think austrians will or should give back the land? Italy is also sitting nicely on a nice piece of slovenian land which they got after WW2 despite the fact they lost the war and not us. They also got the city of Trieste but that belongs to the chinese these days ;)

Everyone is obsessing over Palestine while people are dying in Sudan and nobody gives a **** about that either.
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« Reply #99 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 11:47:28 »
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I'm surprised this threat is still going...
Was that a slip or intentional? :wink: