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Offline LollyWater

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What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 03:10:16 »
How does a keyboard jump up in price so much? What are the things about the higher level keyboards that are so much better than your decent mechanical keyboards?

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 03:20:15 »
Because manufacturers know people will pay exorbitant amounts for Topre boards as long as they keep the pricing at a premium for no reason.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 03:47:52 »
Because it's a niche product withing an already niche world of mechanical keyboards.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 03:48:14 »
400$ custom cherry mx keyboards usually have some expensive casing, springs and stickers that aren't easily attainable, etc etc. Since they aren't massive projects, the price will be driven up because of the start up fee and the more expensive rates from small orders from pcb/case makers. Then, finally you slap on the shipping from Korea.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 03:51:42 »
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 05:14:16 »
If only there were people that knew enough and were sly enough to get into the niche and sabotage the pricing by selling for ridiculously low. :)
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 05:22:24 »
If only there were people that knew enough and were sly enough to get into the niche and sabotage the pricing by selling for ridiculously low. :)

And who were willing to lose a lot of potential profit.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 07:09:06 »
I don't think their (Topre) core source of profit is from the niche of keyboard geeks. Therefore there is no need for them to change the pricing.


If you are talking a $400 cherry mx based keyboards (i.e. korean custom DIY boards), then it would be because of the cost of low volume of production of the parts, especially the casing). 
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 07:11:42 »
And you also gotta see that many of these US$ 400 keyboards are just limited editions, stuff that's rare to find or custom keyboards.

Not always will you pay for the quality, but many times just for the exclusivity of having a limited, rare or custom keyboard.
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 07:20:44 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 07:58:50 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes

That's a pretty broad statement to make.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 08:04:07 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes
That would be the 150 and 250 boards, at 400 you find the Toyboata.

Actually I just wanted an excuse to bring up the Toyboata because it's awesome. And cooler than both a regular Toyota and a Merc.

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What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 08:21:47 »
Because manufacturers know people will pay exorbitant amounts for Topre boards as long as they keep the pricing at a premium for no reason.

If you can't see the reason for the high price then you have no understanding of pricing in a capitalist economy.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 08:25:33 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes

This is a fairly apt statement.  Both will get you where you are going...it's just one is built better (usually) and there's also a luxury tax associated with it (higher price with no value added). 
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 08:34:16 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes

This is a fairly apt statement.  Both will get you where you are going...it's just one is built better (usually) and there's also a luxury tax associated with it (higher price with no value added).
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 08:35:34 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes
That would be the 150 and 250 boards, at 400 you find the Toyboata.

Actually I just wanted an excuse to bring up the Toyboata because it's awesome. And cooler than both a regular Toyota and a Merc.

ahh top gear.. that's some funky hybrids there mate

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 11:14:30 »
I don't think their (Topre) core source of profit is from the niche of keyboard geeks. Therefore there is no need for them to change the pricing.


If you are talking a $400 cherry mx based keyboards (i.e. korean custom DIY boards), then it would be because of the cost of low volume of production of the parts, especially the casing). 

Or they're just trying to cheat you outta yoo money;  Case in point, wooden keyboard with mx mechanical switches selling for 1k on ebay from israel. 

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:40:47 »
A $400 board autocorrects your spelling of 'difference'. A $1000 board mean's you never mix up you're apo'strophes.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:47:15 »
A $400 board autocorrects your spelling of 'difference'. A $1000 board mean's you never mix up you're apo'strophes.

well man thats just. like you're opinion'

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:01:49 »
I think what would be more accurate is the $400 Cherry MX custom boards being more like rare sports cars (bugatti, koenigsegg, lamborghini, ect.). I think they're nice, but would rather take something (much) cheaper and personally customize it.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:08:56 »
A $400 board autocorrects your spelling of 'difference'. A $1000 board mean's you never mix up you're apo'strophes.

well man thats just. like you're opinion'

Im' sensing a diffrense of opinion.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:13:42 »
Because manufacturers know people will pay exorbitant amounts for Topre boards as long as they keep the pricing at a premium for no reason.

Just out of curiosity... have you owned a Topre board before?

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What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:50:41 »
Kbd mania stuff is expensive because of the case machining and pcb prefab (especially now that they come with smd pre-soldered). Add to the base cost the price of switches, keycaps, stabilizers, lube, stickers etc plus building if you're not handy and $400 becomes comparatively reasonable.

If you don't appreciate the effort, attention to detail and high cost of manufacturing then you probably won't understand the difference. I don't like the fancy sports car comparison; for me a nice custom or a topre is more like a nice tool... If a Filco is Craftsman grade the topre and kr. customs are like Snap On.
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:05:23 »
That's probably the best comparison you can make.

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:35:25 »
I kind of like the car comparisons myself since there's more "core" components to consider going into them (in most cases at least), but to each their own.

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:04:39 »
If you are referring to a Topre, then the difference is I've scratched my itch but good! It'll never itch again!



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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:06:31 »
I kind of like the car comparisons myself since there's more "core" components to consider going into them (in most cases at least), but to each their own.
sure, it's understandable, but to compare what is still essentially a tool to something like a sports car with limited practical value (assuming you don't drive a bugatti every day :P) is not as applicable to me i guess. i don't even own a car but i love fancy tools. to me it's more of a means to an end. that's not to say that I use all of my keyboards but the 'bugattis' of my collection are basically my daily drivers because i appreciate the quality. when i think of sports cars i think something that you keep garaged and take out on nice days or to a track to get your money's worth.
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:17:09 »
That's something I never understood myself, why buy an expensive sports car if you're not going to thoroughly enjoy it? Would I drive a Bugatti (or any other expensive sports car) to work if I had one and could afford good insurance? Hell yeah! Otherwise I'd sell it and soup up a "beater"; then again keyboards' value ranges aren't really on "that" kind of scale, so I guess it's more understandable to use an expensive custom for daily use in that mind set.

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:48:53 »
usually people that buy sports cars don't just buy one... it's not a goal for middle income people to obtain a sports car, it's a hobby for people with more money than sense, so you'd have a bunch of sports cars in a garage and then a town car or something for your driver to cart you around in :P
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:27:27 »
Well, that's the difference between collecting and having nice things. I know a few nuts that have custom choppers they use for everyday drivers, one of them even drives the sucker in rain; I guess that's similar to having a korean custom and not washing your hands after eating pizza... I didn't say he had any sense  :eek:

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:29:46 »
My neighbor has always had a special edition of some Jeep or Toyota offroad. He used it all the time which was pretty annoying, because the jeep was ****ing loud... maybe the buckling spring of car industry?

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:31:31 »
My neighbor has always had a special edition of some Jeep or Toyota offroad. He used it all the time which was pretty annoying, because the jeep was ****ing loud... maybe the buckling spring of car industry?

Sounds annoying for others, awesome for whoever is driving it and feels god damn good to use? Sure does seems similar.
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:43:50 »
One's a toyota, one's a mercedes
show me the mercedes that will still drive after being in the sea for a day, crashed by building destroying ball, burned, and placed on building 2 be fall with it.
Busted.
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:45:10 »
show me a keyboard that can do any of those things and still work
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:48:34 »
I don't think their (Topre) core source of profit is from the niche of keyboard geeks. Therefore there is no need for them to change the pricing.


If you are talking a $400 cherry mx based keyboards (i.e. korean custom DIY boards), then it would be because of the cost of low volume of production of the parts, especially the casing). 

Or they're just trying to cheat you outta yoo money;  Case in point, wooden keyboard with mx mechanical switches selling for 1k on ebay from israel.
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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:48:35 »
show me a keyboard that can do any of those things and still work
obvious straw man is obvious

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Re: What's the differance between a $150 keyboard and a $400 keyboard?
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:52:48 »
welp i guess i lose. 1 point to davkol for superior logic in the face of stupid analogies.
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