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Offline jdcarpe

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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 12:50:15 »
I just got my first mech keyboard recently...
Mine is a filco (camo, TKL, browns) and I just love it.

That is because you hit the jackpot on your first attempt. You didn't play around with a Noppoo, Razer, or CM Storm. You went straight for the best, with the best switch (IMO). It's like you bought a BMW 5-series as your first car. Congratulations on your purchase! You already own the best there is!
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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:04:03 »
I just got my first mech keyboard recently...
Mine is a filco (camo, TKL, browns) and I just love it.

That is because you hit the jackpot on your first attempt. You didn't play around with a Noppoo, Razer, or CM Storm. You went straight for the best, with the best switch (IMO). It's like you bought a BMW 5-series as your first car. Congratulations on your purchase! You already own the best there is!

TY. I also want to thank everyone here. The main reason I got this keyboard is because of this forum. I "almost" got a razer blackwidow ultimate, but after reading many bad reviews I decided to search for more options, and after reading a lot (most here and a little on other forums) I decided to go with the Filco because it seemed to be the "sure shot".

Now the problem is that I spend soooo much time reading all is sais here and I end up dreaming about all these mods I have no money for!!! Maybe in a year or 2 my wallet will let me get at least some PBT :) (but finding some that match the camo case will be a challenge, the rainbow/camo that I saw here ain't my type)
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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:32:34 »
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To be honest, if noise is you're primary concern, then Blacks will be your friend. Browns and Reds are measurably just as loud, although the sound is lower in pitch so it's perceived as quieter. Even though it's not.

Blacks are quieter because the stiffer spring causes lower force when bottoming out, thus a quieter "clack", and also helps to prevent bottoming out entirely.

I'm assuming you have a keyboard with MX switches.

Press a key down all the way, hold it in place.

Now, pull your finger off of it as quickly as possible.

Listen.

Blues were disqualified before I had a chance to test any of them.  When I heard "blues are loud" I figured that they were out as it would drive my wife crazy.  Then I got the chance to play with them all and discovered that I didn't like blues and much preferred reds.  I like blacks but I'd rather the lighter force of reds as I'll probably end up using the keyboard for everything given my wife's lack of interest in me spending so much money on a mechanical keyboard let alone buy more than one.

As for other mechanicals, right now I've got a rubber dome and a Model M.  I goof around a bit on the M but it's mostly for the little one to goof around with when in the office, though she tends to prefer the gargantuan Sun Type 5 keyboard as it's big and still light enough to carry easily.  I'm wanting to get a keyboard with reds after doing multiple hours of comparison, but the house finance committee hasn't been too keen on spending that much cash for a keyboard so I get to wait.

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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:46:06 »
The thing with blue is, even ignoring the fact it makes the sound.  I find the "reset" point too high for my liking.  Since you have to lift the switch almost all the way up before it will register again.

As first mechanical keyboard.  I'd say try mx brown first, it seems to have the lowest failure rate.  After that I'd say try mx red.

In your case, I'd probably get a Filco mx brown.  Otherwise CM Storm QuickFire Rapid mx red is a good choice and it also look really nice with the red plate  :D

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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:47:05 »
what makes the Topre realforce and HHKB cost so much in comparison to the mx cherry ones?

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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:54:32 »
I don't own one but if you buy two fullsized KB, you can get a topre.
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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:05:50 »
what makes the Topre realforce and HHKB cost so much in comparison to the mx cherry ones?

Tokyo Press. Oneness of cup rubber. Japanese "luxury" keyboards.
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Re: having a hard time picking red or black switch as my first
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 22 December 2012, 12:38:46 »
It's like you bought a BMW 5-series as your first car.
pfffffff i thought it was like cayenne s at least.

what makes the Topre realforce and HHKB cost so much in comparison to the mx cherry ones?
japanese labour cost and managers' greed.
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