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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16350 on: Thu, 26 July 2018, 10:32:48 »
I know you guys are too much of keyboards connoisseurs for this brand (  ;D ) but i'm looking for the new Corsair K70 Mk. 2 SE with European QWERTZ layout, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Am I just bad at using the intertubes or you really can't find it anywhere in this version ?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16351 on: Fri, 27 July 2018, 04:59:24 »
I know you guys are too much of keyboards connoisseurs for this brand (  ;D ) but i'm looking for the new Corsair K70 Mk. 2 SE with European QWERTZ layout, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Am I just bad at using the intertubes or you really can't find it anywhere in this version ?

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This isn't the SE (aluminium) version.

This is the older version, that you can indeed find everywhere.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16352 on: Thu, 16 August 2018, 18:50:05 »
Is there a known procedure to make DIY side printed legends on DS ABS key caps? I'd like to make my own side printing to help using alternate custom layers.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16353 on: Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:05:38 »
Is it possible to clip the stabs once the board's been assembled? (switches soldered with plate)

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16354 on: Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:33:53 »
Is it possible to clip the stabs once the board's been assembled? (switches soldered with plate)

You'll need to desolder a few switches.
Once you do you'll have enough room to pop the stabilizer wire out of the stabilizer and remove the bit you need to clip.
Reassembly is the reverse.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16355 on: Sun, 19 August 2018, 16:37:10 »
Is it possible to clip the stabs once the board's been assembled? (switches soldered with plate)

You'll need to desolder a few switches.
Once you do you'll have enough room to pop the stabilizer wire out of the stabilizer and remove the bit you need to clip.
Reassembly is the reverse.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16356 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 05:35:58 »
Alright guys, I need help with a new keyboard. I simply can't find what I'm looking for and I need you to save me from ending up buying a Corsair or something. This is basically what I want:

    - It must ship to Switzerland
    - Full size
    - ISO QWERTZ
    - MX switches (or something super similar)
    - Wood or aluminium case
    - PBT keycaps
    - NO need for crazy showlight
    - I like design. Can be super classy wood design or badass "gaming" design, but I like when the keyboard stands out in a way or another.

Thanks a bunch in advance !

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16357 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 18:19:55 »
I was curious if anyone with a Leopold FC980M or KUL ES-87 could tell me how big/deep the bottom/front bezel below the spacebar/lower row is (inches or centimeters are fine...just trying to get an idea of the measurements).  I like having a little space between my wrist rest (a 3m gel wrest) and my keyboard as you can see by the rubber spacers between my Ducky Year of the Tiger keyboard and my wrist rest in the pic below:



I've been toying around with getting the FC980M or ES-87 so I could eschew the need for rubber spacers and was curious how deep their bezels were to determine if that would work.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16358 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 07:38:03 »
This may be out of place but is it a rare occurrence to find a Chicony KB-5161 with SMK Second generation clicky switches? I just noticed that there aren't any instances of it very many places on the internet. Nice switches, btw.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16359 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 09:57:03 »
This may be out of place but is it a rare occurrence to find a Chicony KB-5161 with SMK Second generation clicky switches? I just noticed that there aren't any instances of it very many places on the internet. Nice switches, btw.

Not rare at all, in fact I'd say that is the most common switch to find in a 5161. Mitsumi switches are much rarer and Blue Alps are the rarest of all.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16360 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 01:08:42 »
Are there any readymade TKL keyboards having Gateron Clear switches that we can buy besides Glorious GMMK?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16361 on: Fri, 07 September 2018, 11:32:06 »
Are there any readymade TKL keyboards having Gateron Clear switches that we can buy besides Glorious GMMK?

I don't know if Varmilo still offers boards with them but they used to. I'd sell you mine but about half the switches have died already.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16362 on: Mon, 10 September 2018, 10:03:25 »
Was the Leopold FC660C discontinued, or something? It's really hard to find, and expensive where I do find it.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16363 on: Mon, 24 September 2018, 03:46:59 »
Is it possible to buy a standalone case for a VA68M? I would love to build one myself and i can get the pcb and plate, but i cant seem to find a place to get a case on its own. Anyone know if thats possible or is the only way to find someone with a used case they dont need anymore?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16364 on: Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:40:26 »
i kinda broke my spacebar for my cm storm quickfire xt, you guys know where to buy/get one? thankyou

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16365 on: Tue, 02 October 2018, 10:39:10 »
I have a at101w and I need replacement pads/feet for the keyboard.  the rubber ones not the flippy ones
Where would I but one?

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« Reply #16366 on: Tue, 02 October 2018, 16:13:09 »
What type of switches should I be using with a CF plate - tactile or linear?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16367 on: Wed, 03 October 2018, 03:01:24 »
Alright guys, I need help with a new keyboard. I simply can't find what I'm looking for and I need you to save me from ending up buying a Corsair or something. This is basically what I want:

    - It must ship to Switzerland
    - Full size
    - ISO QWERTZ...

You may want to run this by the good guys at Deskthority, which is based in Europe. Geekhack's based in the US, so we're not nearly as familiar with the things you need. Good luck, though!
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16368 on: Wed, 03 October 2018, 03:03:32 »
I have a at101w and I need replacement pads/feet for the keyboard.  the rubber ones not the flippy ones
Where would I but one?

If you need original feet, you'll probably have to buy the cheapest "parts" AT101W you can find on eBay, and cannibalize it.

Otherwise, I'd just get some generic stick-on feet at a dollar store... Who's going to see them, right?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16369 on: Thu, 04 October 2018, 10:13:14 »
Alright guys, I need help with a new keyboard. I simply can't find what I'm looking for and I need you to save me from ending up buying a Corsair or something. This is basically what I want:

    - It must ship to Switzerland
    - Full size
    - ISO QWERTZ...

You may want to run this by the good guys at Deskthority, which is based in Europe. Geekhack's based in the US, so we're not nearly as familiar with the things you need. Good luck, though!

I still don't understand this sentiment. There are plenty of US users on DT and vice versa.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16370 on: Thu, 04 October 2018, 20:28:19 »
Q: Are there larger layout keyboards available? If so does anyone know a company providing one? Thank you!

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16371 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 18:48:35 »
Q: Are there larger layout keyboards available? If so does anyone know a company providing one? Thank you!
Do you mean large as in bigger than 100%? It can be hard to find new produced keyboards from a manufacturer. The best chances is to join a GB like this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94495.0 or to look at Ebay and try to convert an old keyboard with a USB active converter :)

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16372 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 19:26:00 »

Q: Are there larger layout keyboards available?


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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16373 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 13:02:03 »
So I'm looking to buy a IBM Model M ( not a unicomp ) but there are quite a few variants out there. What variant do think is the best Model M. Thank you.
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« Reply #16374 on: Mon, 22 October 2018, 16:27:01 »
New to all this, trying to figure out what kind of switches I like before buying my next keyboard. I like the idea of avoiding hysteresis so that I can rapid fire in games, and I like the idea of a clicky sound aesthetically.

Do switches with clicky sounds always come with hysteresis, or can you get clicky switches with no hysteresis?

Thanks.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16375 on: Mon, 22 October 2018, 23:36:48 »
I was continuing took look around for keyboards, but I decided having a Model M would be nice but I could also use a keyboard to take to school with me. So I'm now pondering the thought of buying a 60% keyboard, the only problem is I don't know where to find them. If someone could tell me where most people buy there 60% keyboards that would be great. Thanks ahead of time.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16376 on: Tue, 23 October 2018, 08:13:32 »
I was continuing took look around for keyboards, but I decided having a Model M would be nice but I could also use a keyboard to take to school with me. So I'm now pondering the thought of buying a 60% keyboard, the only problem is I don't know where to find them. If someone could tell me where most people buy there 60% keyboards that would be great. Thanks ahead of time.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=28

is a good place to start.  They also have a lot of the parts if you want to build a 60%.

I ended up getting a https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3546
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16377 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 12:18:47 »
How are MX Whites? They supposedly have grease pre-applied to the click jacket to suppress the noise a little.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16378 on: Sat, 03 November 2018, 10:25:38 »
I have a Packard Bell (looks to be mechanical keyboard that has arrows on the back for XT or AT.  The arrows point left or right depending on which you want.  In between the arrors is what looks like a button, but if you push it in, it just goes into the hole and does nothing.  I took the keyboard apart and there is nothing underneath where the button would push into.The keyboards circuit board is about 3/4 inch past the end of the hole but there is nothing there to be depressed, and the small push button had nothing behind it anyway, its just a round 1/8 inch think plastic circle you can push all the way into the hole....

Is something missing on the back of the keyboard?  Not sure how to switch fro XT to AT or what is supposed to be there

The keyboard is from an old Packard Bell PB500 PC Clone

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16379 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 09:58:59 »
Does anyone know of any petscii sets floating around? I found some old threads a while back from an interested party, but I didn't see any follow through.

Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16380 on: Sat, 10 November 2018, 05:54:31 »
What's a good budget friendly mechanical keyboard with RGB lighting? Doesn't have to be MX switches, but something that feels like browns is something i'm looking for. Was looking at stuff on AliExpress but all i could find was "blue" switches around the $50 USD price point.

One keyboard that caught my eye was the AUKEY KM-G6. 104 key, RGB, Outemu Blue switches for around $50 CAD. If only they had a TKL variant with Outemo Browns switches (if this even exists).. Seems like theres a TKL variant but it's not available on Amazon Canada.

I've already used cherry mx blacks (too heavy) and currently using cherry mx reds (feels ok but kinda squishy).
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16381 on: Thu, 15 November 2018, 01:03:54 »
Are there any known/trusted EU-based "fixup-service" providers around on geekhack / deskthority?
In this case I mean soldering and replacing (or cleaning) switches.

I have a KBT Pure Pro (plate-mounted cherry MX switches) over which I stupidly poured a glass of lemonade.
The keyboard still works, but a bunch of the switches are left unusable(sticky), so they will need to be replaced/cleaned for the keyboard to be usable again.
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« Reply #16382 on: Wed, 21 November 2018, 19:57:29 »
Are there any known/trusted EU-based "fixup-service" providers around on geekhack / deskthority?
In this case I mean soldering and replacing (or cleaning) switches.

I have a KBT Pure Pro (plate-mounted cherry MX switches) over which I stupidly poured a glass of lemonade.
The keyboard still works, but a bunch of the switches are left unusable(sticky), so they will need to be replaced/cleaned for the keyboard to be usable again.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16383 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:31:00 »
should skcl green alps be lubed with krytox? is there some reason that alps are usually dry lubed instead? some of the green alps i recieved are scratchy and i want to make them all consistent.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16384 on: Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:38:38 »
should skcl green alps be lubed with krytox? is there some reason that alps are usually dry lubed instead? some of the green alps i recieved are scratchy and i want to make them all consistent.
Alps are notorious for getting dust and dirt in them really easily. A lube or oil that isn't dry tends to catch this dirt and make switches feel a lot worse. Dry lube can mitigate the risk of gritty switches.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16385 on: Sun, 02 December 2018, 21:41:32 »
is RO-59 considered dry lube? are there any better options for dry lubing skcl greens?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16387 on: Mon, 03 December 2018, 23:28:00 »
is RO-59 considered dry lube? are there any better options for dry lubing skcl greens?
Yeah, it's a dry lube.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16388 on: Tue, 11 December 2018, 00:39:13 »
i've got a 60% with a shift and enter key with stabilisers with way too much lube, so much that it gets stuck at the bottom out. is there a way i can clean this up without desoldering?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16389 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 04:27:01 »
Although modern keyboards have a "Return" and an "Enter" key that basically do the same thing, I wonder if there was a time when they sent different keycodes. There must be a reason why they have different labels. Can anyone enlighten me?
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« Reply #16390 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 06:50:01 »
Although modern keyboards have a "Return" and an "Enter" key that basically do the same thing, I wonder if there was a time when they sent different keycodes. There must be a reason why they have different labels. Can anyone enlighten me?

In the transition from typewriters, there were sometimes different keys for the functions of "carriage return" and "line feed"
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McCabe, who similarly had experience prosecuting Russian organized-crime rings, has observed that Mueller's approach to investigating Trump tracks how one would go about investigating a crime ring. "There are a lot of patterns in what Director Mueller is doing that are very familiar to me," McCabe told The Atlantic: "You can certainly look at what Mueller’s done so far to say he is doing exactly what we would do with the investigation of a cartel or an organized-crime family."

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16391 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 07:01:42 »
Thank you, that was too obvious. Oops.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16392 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 08:28:32 »
Not really. And I did not explain "Enter" in the sense of "enter data" which is sometimes done with the Tab key or in other ways. I have to use one (old) program at work that requires Tab to enter data and the actual Enter key will not do it.
In his book A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership, Comey wrote that working for Trump gave him “flashbacks to my earlier career as a prosecutor against the Mob. The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.”

McCabe, who similarly had experience prosecuting Russian organized-crime rings, has observed that Mueller's approach to investigating Trump tracks how one would go about investigating a crime ring. "There are a lot of patterns in what Director Mueller is doing that are very familiar to me," McCabe told The Atlantic: "You can certainly look at what Mueller’s done so far to say he is doing exactly what we would do with the investigation of a cartel or an organized-crime family."

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16393 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 08:31:02 »
Does it differ between Enter and Return?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16394 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 09:00:17 »
With word processing software coming up, CR (carriage return) and LF (line feed) were combined in one key called "return". On the other hand, this very key was used in the OS to confirm and execute commands, and in this function was called "enter". The naming difference took place very early (early 80ies?) and reflects whether it wanted to emphasize the word processing function or the OS function of the keyboard. Modern PCs have mostly "enter", as PCs main task shifted from word processing to more generic usage.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16395 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 20:45:21 »
Is there some way in which the distinction between "Enter" and "Return" is related to the application of way too much lube?
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« Reply #16396 on: Sat, 15 December 2018, 01:13:59 »
Alps; when using an ultrasonic cleaner, can we throw in the bottom housing along with the switchplate? or will that ruin the switch?

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« Reply #16397 on: Sun, 16 December 2018, 19:54:09 »
Although modern keyboards have a "Return" and an "Enter" key that basically do the same thing, I wonder if there was a time when they sent different keycodes. There must be a reason why they have different labels. Can anyone enlighten me?

I've used systems/terminals in the past where the computer would present a screenful of information with some user-editable fields.  The user would enter their information, usually pressing Tab between each field.  Then finish by pressing Enter to submit the entire form (all field values) to the computer.

Return was used to place line breaks in multi-line fields.  Or, more typically, when entering operating system commands.

In HP terms, the terminal would be set to "page mode" and transmit a page of information at a time, rather than character by character, or field by field.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #16398 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:39:37 »
Hey, I am very new into mechanical keyboards and quite like the look of the the GMMK. I am just wondering is this a good keyboard and is it good for beginners? Maybe some other keyboard recommendations for a beginner in the sub £50-£150 range... preferable under £100? Thank You

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« Reply #16399 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:52:10 »
Hey, I am very new into mechanical keyboards and quite like the look of the the GMMK. I am just wondering is this a good keyboard and is it good for beginners? Maybe some other keyboard recommendations for a beginner in the sub £50-£150 range... preferable under £100? Thank You

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I would steer clear of Magicforce 68 if you want a keyboard that plays well with multiple bios eras (early 2000's, etc.). I've read good things about CM Storm QuickFire Rapid. Need more input.
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