Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[xondat]

Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.

Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

Waaaaaa

[CPTBadAss]

Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.

Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

Waaaaaa

Should be under the OK sticker. At least that's where the screw is on Filcos.

[CommonCurt]

Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.

Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

Waaaaaa

Try that sticker that says "Do Not Remove"  they are usually under there.

[xondat]

Okay, how do I take apart my WASD V2? There aren't screws under the legs.

Huh, I just checked on mine, there's none under my legs either.

Is there a sticker on the back? Perhaps you need to break the sticker in order to open the back so they can tell because it would probably void the warranty.

Waaaaaa

Try that sticker that says "Do Not Remove"  they are usually under there.

There is 1. Um.

[xondat]

http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

Found this but I only have two hands wtf

[derb2k2]

When will Brian from EK re-stock on 45g RF??

 

[CommonCurt]

http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

Found this but I only have two hands wtf

Could you not find any videos on Youtube?

When will Brian from EK re-stock on 45g RF??

 

Don't think that question can be answered here.  I would email Brian and ask.

[klennkellon]

Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

Thanks.

[bocahgundul]

Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

Thanks.

Nope don't ever lube clicky switches ever. Well there is a guide for it but its really complicated so just don't lube your alps just clean it like in this videos

Thank you chryos for the videos all courtesy from chyros

[klennkellon]

Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

Thanks.

Nope don't ever lube clicky switches ever. Well there is a guide for it but its really complicated so just don't lube your alps just clean it like in this videos

Thank you chryos for the videos all courtesy from chyros

That's the video I used to take it apart, all I did was lube the slider, and I cleaned it off so it should still work at least a little!

After more cleaning and tweaking the tactile leaf, the key has regained a majority of its tactility but with no click. This is so weird.

[xondat]

http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

Found this but I only have two hands wtf

Could you not find any videos on Youtube?

Nope

[wockytocky]

Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

[CPTBadAss]

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Hey, I need a little help with my ALPS board.

They are complicated white alps in a Focus FK-2001.

I tried lubing a few switches because they felt scratchy, I started with Numlock 7 as a test, it went fine, but when I did 4 the switch has now lost all tactility and feels completely linear.

I thought it was because I used too much lube, so i wiped it all off and gave it a quick rinse until it didn't feel greasy, and then I put it back, it still feels the same. I have no idea why its doing this. All of the parts are in exactly how they should be. The keys still work fine BTW. I can upload pictures later if needed.

Thanks.

Nope don't ever lube clicky switches ever. Well there is a guide for it but its really complicated so just don't lube your alps just clean it like in this videos

Thank you chryos for the videos all courtesy from chyros

That's the video I used to take it apart, all I did was lube the slider, and I cleaned it off so it should still work at least a little!

After more cleaning and tweaking the tactile leaf, the key has regained a majority of its tactility but with no click. This is so weird.

I think there should be two leaves. One makes the clickyness and one provides the contact to the PCB. Do you have both leaves in the switch?

Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

Maybe this?

http://imgur.com/a/D2HQI

Found this but I only have two hands wtf

Could you not find any videos on Youtube?

Nope

So you unscrew the only screw then the case halves are just snap fit together. So you run a credit card or something relatively thin and flexible between the two case halves and kinda lever the snap fits apart. That's how my Filco is and that's how that CODE looks.

[dgneo]

is it worth dental banding my hhkb

No, but I do recommend a lubing and Silencing Rings: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=silencing+rings&_sacat=0

[HoffmanMyster]

Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

Maybe this?

+1   Indeed, I believe this is the only option at this time.

[xondat]

So you unscrew the only screw then the case halves are just snap fit together. So you run a credit card or something relatively thin and flexible between the two case halves and kinda lever the snap fits apart. That's how my Filco is and that's how that CODE looks.

There's probably a millimeter that I have to lever in, I genuinely can't figure this out

[wockytocky]

Is there an easy way to make an FC660c programmable? Maybe something like Hasu's alternate HHKB controller but for the fc660c?

Maybe this?

Looks interesting, thanks!

[CPTBadAss]

So you unscrew the only screw then the case halves are just snap fit together. So you run a credit card or something relatively thin and flexible between the two case halves and kinda lever the snap fits apart. That's how my Filco is and that's how that CODE looks.

There's probably a millimeter that I have to lever in, I genuinely can't figure this out

Yes, you'll have to use a little bit of force to get your tool into there. The case halves should have a little give. If they don't give, you haven't removed all the screws yet.

[Melvang]

CBA, what was the most difficult case for you to crack into?

[CPTBadAss]

CBA, what was the most difficult case for you to crack into?

Photoelectric was kind enough to paint a camo Filco top for my Filco Zero. However, the camo Filco top was slightly smaller than the Zero so I spent ages sanding it down so that it would fit. It's still not perfect and it scares me every time I remove it that it will snap. And it's really hard to get on as well.

[xondat]

Did it.

Took some force and a blunt knife but did it. Thanks Cpt

[joey]

Best way to get purple RF sliders?

[nmur]

gonna dremel out some bit from my TEX acrylic case.

anyone have a suggestion of what dremel bit I should use?

[Connly33]

gonna dremel out some bit from my TEX acrylic case.

anyone have a suggestion of what dremel bit I should use?

Just from my experience with PC case modding, if your going to be cutting, either a straight router bit, or a mini saw attachment, depending on what you're doing exactly,  that has a medium teeth per inch count, to fine and it will just melt the acrylic, and not fine enough and it will just tear it up. For grinding corners or ridges down a medium fine planer bit is usually the best.

[nmur]

gonna dremel out some bit from my TEX acrylic case.

anyone have a suggestion of what dremel bit I should use?

Just from my experience with PC case modding, if your going to be cutting, either a straight router bit, or a mini saw attachment, depending on what you're doing exactly,  that has a medium teeth per inch count, to fine and it will just melt the acrylic, and not fine enough and it will just tear it up. For grinding corners or ridges down a medium fine planer bit is usually the best.

ah okay thank you

I'm gonna be removing sections of the support ridges inside the case to allow room for RGB components on the underside of a PCB. so I might be using a combination of cutting and routing.

[swimmingbird]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

[Melvang]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

[swimmingbird]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

[Melvang]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

[swimmingbird]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

That's really interesting

So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

[Melvang]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

That's really interesting

So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

From what I have seen, both.  Cherry and Alps switches are very forgiving on the tolerances.  A lot of the shops that actually machine (not including water jet and laser) work to tolerances much lower than what these require.  For instance, with surface grinding, it is not uncommon at all to have to work to tolerances of +/-.0002".  Cherry switch tolerances are about 10 times that.  Even tighter tolerances are possibly fairly easily if you are willing to spend the time and money to get there. 

Hell, I personally did a shaft alignment a month or so ago in the field, with shaft offset and angular missalignment errors of less than .001".  All depends on the tools you have.

[swimmingbird]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

That's really interesting

So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

From what I have seen, both.  Cherry and Alps switches are very forgiving on the tolerances.  A lot of the shops that actually machine (not including water jet and laser) work to tolerances much lower than what these require.  For instance, with surface grinding, it is not uncommon at all to have to work to tolerances of +/-.0002".  Cherry switch tolerances are about 10 times that.  Even tighter tolerances are possibly fairly easily if you are willing to spend the time and money to get there. 

Hell, I personally did a shaft alignment a month or so ago in the field, with shaft offset and angular missalignment errors of less than .001".  All depends on the tools you have.

Man that's a ridiculous level of tolerance - is it typical for most US machining shops to work on these incredibly low tolerances?

[UsualSuspectXXX]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Seems like they are skilled enough to make the most desired boards in the community (OTD, LZ)

Really though, the reason is because labor is dirt cheap over there and corporate greed runs rampant over here.  The cost is in the tolerances.  For example with Sherlines benchtop mills and lathes, for them to increase the accuracy of their machines by ~5%, it would increase the cost of the machine by a factor of 10.

That's really interesting

So are the high prices in Western markets such as the US mostly labor or is it that the accuracy of the machining is significantly better than what's typical in Korea?

From what I have seen, both.  Cherry and Alps switches are very forgiving on the tolerances.  A lot of the shops that actually machine (not including water jet and laser) work to tolerances much lower than what these require.  For instance, with surface grinding, it is not uncommon at all to have to work to tolerances of +/-.0002".  Cherry switch tolerances are about 10 times that.  Even tighter tolerances are possibly fairly easily if you are willing to spend the time and money to get there. 

Hell, I personally did a shaft alignment a month or so ago in the field, with shaft offset and angular missalignment errors of less than .001".  All depends on the tools you have.

Man that's a ridiculous level of tolerance - is it typical for most US machining shops to work on these incredibly low tolerances?

All depends what's being machined. A friend of mine works in a tool and die shop (for some reason they also make parts for boat racing) and some of their tolerances are incredibly tight!

[klennkellon]

Can anyone directly compare Matias Click switches with the original Complicated White ALPS for me? I have used my ALPS board enough to think that I like the switches a lot for typing but would like to try something more modern in design.

[Photekq]

Why are Korean customs so cheap to manufacture compared to in the USA/UK/etc?

cheap labor isn't skilled, and skilled labor isn't cheap.

Is labor cheap in South Korea?

[tofgerl]

Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks

[Melvang]

Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks

[swimmingbird]

Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks

I think both the Tex Acrylic and the Tex Aluminum cases would be totally flat as long as you didn't put the feet on the end

Same thing for the Nerd 60 housing

[tofgerl]

Damn, wish I knew that before splurging on this (slightly cheaper than TEX) case:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case

[CPTBadAss]

Can anyone directly compare Matias Click switches with the original Complicated White ALPS for me? I have used my ALPS board enough to think that I like the switches a lot for typing but would like to try something more modern in design.

I find that Complicated Whites are heavier and not as smooth as the Matias Click switches. I prefer Matias Click to Complicated Whites.

[xondat]

Slightly on the topic of Korean customs, can anyone help me get quotes there? LeandreN & LSB said they're help but both have been busy

[jd29]

Is anyone else getting "Gatekeeper returned an error code: bad_code" when trying to log into keyboard layout editor?

[tassadarforaiur]

Is the gt80 titan keyboard NKRO? All that MSI's website says is "steelseries anti-ghosting"

[Blaise170]

Is the gt80 titan keyboard NKRO? All that MSI's website says is "steelseries anti-ghosting"

Check the manual, it might have it there.

[Melvang]

We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?

[CPTBadAss]

We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?

It was a cast metal plate IIRC

[Melvang]

We're 50 key IBMs made with F internals using the M style case, or did all the F versions have the 4704 style cast case?

It was a cast metal plate IIRC

Thanks CBA, I am assuming this one is M by the date on the label, but was F internals ever used in the same case?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/IBM-KEYBOARD-4707-50-KEY-POS-1392560-/172050888228?nav=SEARCH

[UsualSuspectXXX]

Are there any mass produced flat 60% cases? I have a feeling I would massively prefer a 0 incline keyboard, but it seems like it would be hard to do without going custom, and my piggy bank is not at that point yet.

I know the Planck is flat, so I'll get to try it in a few weeks

For something cheaper than Tex you could grab this on AliExpress

[swimmingbird]

Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

[hwood34]

Why don't you see half plates that much in customs anymore?

I only remember seeing it for one OTD (360?), The Cheat, and an attempt at it for TGR which was recent