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Offline rnak92a

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« on: Tue, 12 February 2008, 23:02:42 »
http://tinyurl.com/3av8ep  Supposedly an IBM Model M Quiet Touch, but the picture indicates a blue label?!  I'd never seen such an iteration of the Quiet Touch, but I placed a bid on it because the opener's so low.  Nothing ventured...

http://tinyurl.com/346pg5  Lot of 5 Model M keyboards--two of which appear to have the black text on white label--part #1391401.  If so, this isn't a bad opportunity, considering Unicomp will restore them to like-new condition as they did with my 1988 1391401 for US $30.00.  That's a pretty cheap buy for a fully refurb'ed model M. And who knows:  the boards may be rather clean and work perfectly--yeah.

http://tinyurl.com/34j2n8  What appears to be a white label Model M; bidding opened at 1.00.  Not a bad auction to take a chance on, even though the seller's rep seems rather low.  Again, who knows what you'll actually get.

Just thought I'd pass along a few potentially interesting finds while messing around on eBay.  YMMV and Buyer Beware and all that.

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What would happen if I bought one and sent them a nasty letter that read:

"1391401.  I want my money back."
 


Offline fkeidjn

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 13 February 2008, 11:25:26 »
The first link you provided is a rubber dome model M.  Notice that there are no buckling springs in the picture with the keycaps off.  The only soft touch buckling spring keyboard is a gray label with soft touch labeled on it.
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 13 February 2008, 22:10:41 »
I noticed this after glancing again at the item listing's pictures.  Ah well--if I win it, it's a cheap but well made rubber dome 'board I can pass to a family member who hunts and pecks and doesn't care about the lush response a true Model M provides.
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Quote from: Hak Foo
The label says, "World\'s best... guaranteed."

What would happen if I bought one and sent them a nasty letter that read:

"1391401.  I want my money back."
 


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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 14 February 2008, 00:05:56 »
Quote from: rnak92a;2959

http://tinyurl.com/34j2n8  What appears to be a white label Model M; bidding opened at 1.00.  Not a bad auction to take a chance on, even though the seller's rep seems rather low.  Again, who knows what you'll actually get.


Keyboard is probably broken.  Why would you not test a used piece of hardware...
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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 16 February 2008, 20:14:02 »
"Quiet touch" denotes rubber domed keyboards, outside of the M variants even.  The other clue is in the keycaps themselves; they are one piece caps with an extra central piece to push the dome:

The Soft Touch board, apparently with silicone greased springs, has a funny part number [8184692] and, as mentioned, the label.

As for the lone '401 being untested, the description doesn't seem to confirm or deny it.  A question to the seller would be telling...
ARC/Chicony KB-5181 XT/AT blue ALPS? 101 US FCC ID E8H51KKB-5181 • AST ASTKB102 AT capacitive rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Cherry G80-2100 AT black Cherry 126 key German ISO unique • Compaq Enhanced III PS/2 unknown rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Datacomp DFK102ARA03 AT 102 blue ALPS? US/Arabic FCC ID blank, S/N 37880001 • Dell AT102W PS/2 Black ALPS 105 UK ISO x2
Fujitsu KFB4725-102 AT membrane rubber dome with spring 105 UK ISO • Hewlett Packard C1405A AT rubber dome 102 UK ISO
IBM 0989705 XT/AT no LEDs Model M 102 US/Arabic  • IBM 1388076 Industrial AT Model M 102 UK ISO
IBM 1389260 3179/3180 Display Station Model M 122 US 3270 x2 • IBM 1391406 PS/2 Model M 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 1397003 PS/2 Model M "Host Connect" emulator 122 German ISO • IBM 71G4643 PS/2 Model M Quiet Touch "Ouch!    Rubber spring" 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 5640987 3178 Display Station Model C2 capacitive buckling spring 87 key US 3270 • IBM 556-712-01 RT PC rubber dome [same as 2nd PCjr kbd?] 101 US
IBM 6450225 PC/AT capacitive buckling spring 84 key UK PC/AT • Lexmark 8125460 Model M2 102 UK ISO
NMB RT-102 117456-002 AT Hi-Tek black, clicky 102 UK ISO • Olivetti ANK 2462 M24 Personal Computer keyboard 2 clicky Olivetti spring module 102 UK unique
Ortek MCK-142Pro AT white ALPS 142 key UK • Sun 540-1006-03 Type unknown linear(?) keyswitch 2 87 key SunType2
Wang 724 725-3771-UK salmon ALPS 110 key UK Wang724 • Making this list hasn\'t half scared me...
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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 14:34:06 »
I have a quiet touch blue label. Use it very rarely.

Prefer the original M.

I also have a M space Saver that is perfect. I
ll list it on ebay one of these days. I don't use it since the number pad is very important for the type of work I do.

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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 14:45:12 »
Sell it here, you'll get a fair price on it. I'm thinking of liquidating my collection soon and I might offer them here first.

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 15:35:26 »
Quote from: xsphat;3028
Sell it here, you'll get a fair price on it. I'm thinking of liquidating my collection soon and I might offer them here first.

Why sell it here for a fair price when you can sell it on eBay and possibly get a ridiculous price?  :)

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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 16:00:28 »
Good point.

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 17:04:57 »
What would be a fair price for a very good compact m?

Offline fkeidjn

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 21:07:20 »
How about $90?
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 17 February 2008, 21:53:26 »
I paid around $53 for my Model M spacesaver on ebay.  It's a white label made in 1987. The week before I got mine saw another sell for $45ish.  Mine has a nick or two on the exterior, but seems very sound mechanically, and has nice key action.

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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 18 February 2008, 06:52:36 »
Personally, I'd consider anything in the $60-80 range decent.  As a buyer, if you end up paying less, then you've gotten a heck of a deal (and several of us here have).  

"Standard" Model M's (with the numpad) should be easy to find in the sub-$50 range (and I'd say that's about what they are worth unless they are old stock still in the box).

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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 18 February 2008, 10:57:39 »
I was given my 1391401. Now that is fair price considering I never use it.

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 01 March 2008, 13:10:54 »
I'd honestly have trouble paying more than $5 for a standard 101-key M, myself - they're too common in the thrift stores.

(And, the M I'm typing on right now was my most expensive one, at $4.99.)

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 01 March 2008, 15:08:06 »
I a little under 30 for the one I am using now, but it was supposed to be a never used before "new in box" keyboard. It seems to be just as advertised. :)

As for interesting ebay listings, I've been intrigued with this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=350030371707&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI

Pity it only comes in a lot of 5.  I already have too many keyboards. O_o

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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 01 March 2008, 15:35:35 »
Quote from: zerogravitas;3307

As for interesting ebay listings, I've been intrigued with this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=350030371707&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI


i was eyeing that auction as well.  i didn't bid on it because i couldn't be sure what type of switches they used (the auction does claim that they use 'alps premium mechanical switches', but i'd really prefer to see a close-up picture).

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 01 March 2008, 15:36:34 »
That guy is selling a Hill-Rom hospital bed.  That is just a little bit creepy.

Oh, and right now at $32, I'm the high bidder. =-D  On the 5 keyboards, not the bed.
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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 01 March 2008, 20:40:28 »
I REALLY hate the "reverse L" enter key layout.  I don't care what keyswitches are used...that is just plain intolerable for me.

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 01 March 2008, 23:06:59 »
You got jacked!! LOL


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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 13 March 2008, 18:33:52 »
Is the spacesavers from IBM more clickier than unicomp's SpaceSaver?

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 13 March 2008, 19:11:59 »
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Is the spacesavers from IBM more clickier than unicomp's SpaceSaver?


Anecdotally I'd say it might be.  I only have a small sample to go off of, but many of the old IBM made boards I've used have tended to be both slightly clickier and have a more precise key action.  I haven't compared against any new Unicomp boards though, only some used Unicomp, Lexmark, and Maxi-switch made boards, so it could be chalked up to usage variance.  I have seen others make a similar assertion though.

My general feeling, and this may not be popular, is that the original IBM made boards had slightly better build quality than the later Lexmark and Unicomp made models.  This is most apparent in the heavy detachable connector cable IBM included compared against the permanently connected and lighter weight version used on non-IBM built M's, another example is the injection molding on the key caps tends to be slightly better on the IBM boards I've seen.

Take this with a grain of salt though, my sample size isn't big enough to be particularly valid.
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 13 March 2008, 19:58:56 »
The Unicomp Space Savers are different from the old traditional Space Savers.  I have a picture of them here.




The top is an 80s space saver, the middle a newish Unicomp Spacesaver, and the bottom an early 90s Model M.

The two older IBMs are, I dare say, built a little tougher than this particular model of  Unicomp (though the Unicomp still feels a lot more solid than, for instance, the Logitechs I am stuck with at work, and the Cherry I am playing around with now).  This may or may not be the case with with the Unicomp version of the traditional Model M however.  

 And the older IBM's I think may be a bit clickier, though it is a fairly subtle difference. Even if we posit the Unicomp is inferior to the original IBMs, it is still a huge improvement over the craptastic Logitechs I use at work.

As with Mikecase00, my sample is small.  :)

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 13 March 2008, 21:40:50 »
I would definitely say that the IBMs have a more pronounced click than the Unicomp boards...

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« Reply #25 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:58:28 »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sanwa-mechanical-numeric-keypad-NT-10UH2BK-Number-pad-F-S-From-Japan-/271332424781

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● It is the orthodox school numeric keypad which adopted Germany Cherry Co. MX Tactile feel key switch to be mounted in a convenient high-speed USB2.0 HUB
● High-quality keyboard and card reader, to connect USB flash memory.
● It is a deep sense of input and about 4mm Keith stroke.
● 2000 million times or more keystroke endurance.
● It is shipped with or TAB key and convenient key when using Microsoft Excel.
● It is 19mm key pitch the same as the desktop keyboard.
● Operate in standard Windows driver. Numlock is unsynchronized type.

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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 02:06:41 »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sanwa-mechanical-numeric-keypad-NT-10UH2BK-Number-pad-F-S-From-Japan-/271332424781

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● It is the orthodox school numeric keypad which adopted Germany Cherry Co. MX Tactile feel key switch to be mounted in a convenient high-speed USB2.0 HUB
● High-quality keyboard and card reader, to connect USB flash memory.
● It is a deep sense of input and about 4mm Keith stroke.
● 2000 million times or more keystroke endurance.
● It is shipped with or TAB key and convenient key when using Microsoft Excel.
● It is 19mm key pitch the same as the desktop keyboard.
● Operate in standard Windows driver. Numlock is unsynchronized type.

That's an old thread to bump!
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« Reply #27 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 04:36:16 »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sanwa-mechanical-numeric-keypad-NT-10UH2BK-Number-pad-F-S-From-Japan-/271332424781

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● It is the orthodox school numeric keypad which adopted Germany Cherry Co. MX Tactile feel key switch to be mounted in a convenient high-speed USB2.0 HUB
● High-quality keyboard and card reader, to connect USB flash memory.
● It is a deep sense of input and about 4mm Keith stroke.
● 2000 million times or more keystroke endurance.
● It is shipped with or TAB key and convenient key when using Microsoft Excel.
● It is 19mm key pitch the same as the desktop keyboard.
● Operate in standard Windows driver. Numlock is unsynchronized type.
Either the seller was too happy with hitting the amount of zeros on that figure and/or issues with translation.  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 08:05:21 »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Sanwa-mechanical-numeric-keypad-NT-10UH2BK-Number-pad-F-S-From-Japan-/271332424781

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● It is the orthodox school numeric keypad which adopted Germany Cherry Co. MX Tactile feel key switch to be mounted in a convenient high-speed USB2.0 HUB
● High-quality keyboard and card reader, to connect USB flash memory.
● It is a deep sense of input and about 4mm Keith stroke.
● 2000 million times or more keystroke endurance.
● It is shipped with or TAB key and convenient key when using Microsoft Excel.
● It is 19mm key pitch the same as the desktop keyboard.
● Operate in standard Windows driver. Numlock is unsynchronized type.

That's an old thread to bump!

I couldn't find the newer one.....