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Offline khaangaaroo

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Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:14:49 »
Get ready folks, this is a big one. Today I opened up a recently acquired 86u to move some domes around, and one of the domes had TWO capacitive springs underneath it!  :eek:

I actually couldn't feel the difference between the key with two springs and another with just one. It registered key presses like normal. I'm not surprised that I found two springs under one dome though. When you have a bunch of those springs around, they stick together and sit within one another pretty easily.
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Offline deazncy

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:19:34 »
Strange.. Have you fixed it? Or is it not as big of a problem that it has to be fixed?
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Offline khaangaaroo

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:22:13 »
Quote from: deazncy on Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:19:34
Strange.. Have you fixed it? Or is it not as big of a problem that it has to be fixed?

I just left the extra spring out as I was putting the board back together. It's really not a big deal. I'm just creating conversation :)
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Offline calavera

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:22:50 »
LOL are you serious? I never noticed.
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Offline khaangaaroo

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:29:36 »
Haha yeah, pretty funny. I never would have either if I didn't take it apart.
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Offline iri

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 02:30:37 »
have you compared it to your 30g?
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Offline khaangaaroo

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 02:50:10 »
Yeah, I tried it out for a full day at work, and it was a lot more fatiguing than I expected. That might be because I'm more used to 30g and mx reds (my two switches of choice.) But I wouldn't call 45g too heavy, they just feel a bit stiff. Not being able to type without bottoming out is tiring. I have a feeling my fingers will probably adapt after a few days though. We'll see.
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Offline iri

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 03:17:55 »
realforce 45g is fatiguing... people are really, really different. did your fingers ache? just curious. mine do when typing on a 45g.
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(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.
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Offline Macsmasher

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 06:31:35 »
Quote from: khaangaaroo on Fri, 22 March 2013, 02:50:10
Yeah, I tried it out for a full day at work, and it was a lot more fatiguing than I expected. That might be because I'm more used to 30g and mx reds (my two switches of choice.) But I wouldn't call 45g too heavy, they just feel a bit stiff. Not being able to type without bottoming out is tiring. I have a feeling my fingers will probably adapt after a few days though. We'll see.

I know most guys like the 45g and 55g Topre boards. I've had an 87U variable for about four months, and just got a HHKB Pro 2, which is 45g uniform. I do like the 45g HHKB. But in terms of typing comfort, I'll take the 30g - 45g Realforce any day over the HHKB.
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Offline longweight

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 06:35:38 »
The spring shouldn't make any noticeable difference to the feel of the key press....
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Offline daerid

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:41:52 »
Cray cray. I ended up trading out the 45g for the 55g because it felt like all the keys were too loose, that there was something wrong with them. But then, I'm 6'2" with 4" fingers.
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Offline vipjun

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:03:12 »
WOW this is real crazy how does 2 springs even fit inside LoL!
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Offline iri

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:37:20 »
Quote from: daerid on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:41:52
Cray cray. I ended up trading out the 45g for the 55g because it felt like all the keys were too loose, that there was something wrong with them. But then, I'm 6'2" with 4" fingers.
mine is all good with the keys, but the case is loose. and i'm 185cm with 22.5cm hands if this is relevant.
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(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.
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Offline khaangaaroo

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:44:10 »
You guys have big hands...haha

iri, you could try putting some tape or something around the inner edges of the case before clamping the two halves together. Maybe that will close any gaps and tighten it down.
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Offline daerid

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:46:07 »
The top part of my AE is slightly loose, but that doesn't really make a difference in use.
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Offline khaangaaroo

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:02:26 »
The lonely spring

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Offline iri

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:34:49 »
Quote from: khaangaaroo on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:44:10
iri, you could try putting some tape or something around the inner edges of the case before clamping the two halves together. Maybe that will close any gaps and tighten it down.
thanks. it's only a bit loose though. doesn't affect the overall typing experience. and there was a geekhack member (you?) who comfortably used their realforce board without the case.

also lolz @ the lonely spring )
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(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.
-Ray Bradbury

Offline khaangaaroo

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:40:09 »
haha yeah that was me without the case. I just thought I'd throw it out there in case the case of the loose case was really bothering you.
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Offline iri

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:02:35 »
Hahaha
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(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.
-Ray Bradbury

Offline morpheus

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 23 March 2013, 04:52:35 »
I don't know why, but the phrase "typing on a cloud of boobs" came up when I saw that picture of a lonely spring.
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Offline vun

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Re: Shoddy assembly on a Realforce
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 23 March 2013, 06:12:30 »
Quote from: morpheus on Sat, 23 March 2013, 04:52:35
I don't know why, but the phrase "typing on a cloud of boobs" came up when I saw that picture of a lonely spring.
More like "cloud of torpedo tits", going by the shape of the spring.
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