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[IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 14:15:06 »
Hey all ISO users :)
 This is an IC for an ISO addon for the Dolch DSA set that will be run by Redline ( http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43863.0 )
This addon would then have
ISO Enter key
1,25 Left shift
Extra 1x1 key 2nd row ( next to shift)
Extra 1x1 key 3rd row (next to enter key)

Report your interest for this here, unfortunately I am neither able to do mockups for the keys nor run the potential GB.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 15:26:02 »
Interested
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:44:03 »
interested in 2x if the dsa dolch gb goes through.
for what it's worth: if we add blanks/extra keys to this it might help it get off the ground more.
example: center stemmed stepped caps lock.
« Last Edit: Tue, 11 June 2013, 20:15:20 by domoaligato »

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:20:07 »
I'm IN!!!!!

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 04:23:04 »
interested in 2x if the dsa dolch gb goes through.
for what it's worth: if we add blanks/extra keys to this it might help it get off the ground more.
example: center stemmed stepped caps lock.
This would be a good idea to get more people interested.
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 05:39:52 »
interested in 2x if the dsa dolch gb goes through.
for what it's worth: if we add blanks/extra keys to this it might help it get off the ground more.
example: center stemmed stepped caps lock.
This would be a good idea to get more people interested.

+1

If the replica GB doesn't include blanks, then offering blanks would definitely increase numbers!

If blanks become a secondary focus of this, I'd love to see blacks in both light grey and dark grey, and possibly even deep dish variants! I have still yet to see a full keyboard of DSA deep dish blanks!! DYING to know what that's like to type on!

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 05:41:53 »
Still looking for someone willing to run this and talk to sp, because I lack to much experience to do it.
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 06:40:02 »
Interested




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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 12 June 2013, 07:41:59 »
Interested.

I seem to have accumulated quite a few ISO boards, would be nice to have full matching sets for them.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 03:21:16 »
Well I'm definitely going to order the DOLCH DSA set... if this ISO gb doesn't happen, then the DOLCH set will sit on a shelf ;)

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 03:29:40 »
Well I'm definitely going to order the DOLCH DSA set... if this ISO gb doesn't happen, then the DOLCH set will sit on a shelf ;)

It would be a good excuse to buy an ANSI board  :D

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 03:41:33 »
Well I'm definitely going to order the DOLCH DSA set... if this ISO gb doesn't happen, then the DOLCH set will sit on a shelf ;)

It would be a good excuse to buy an ANSI board  :D

haha.. The only board that's made me want to try ANSI is the Leopold FC 660C.

A strong focus of this community is that you can literally customise a board to EXACTLY what you want. And for me, that's ISO ;) This preference sure makes my life harder some times! (Most times)

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 03:46:17 »
I see your point, fair enough. Hopefully you guys can get enough interest. It would be a shame to have this set sit on a shelf...

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 03:49:58 »
Okay, maybe I was being a little dramatic. I would use the set, but would have to settle for a miss-matched set to make it ISO. Which would be a pity.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 07:08:24 »
Would buy, make it happen.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 23:05:54 »
I think I just realized that to make a complete set for users using the gh60 max keys layout these would be needed.

Ansi Enter key in 1.25 size
Backspace in 1x

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 11:49:36 »
ISO Enter key
1,25 Left shift
Extra 1x1 key 2nd row ( next to shift)
Extra 1x1 key 3rd row (next to enter key)

There are no rows in DSA and there's no ISO Enter in DSA as well. What you need is:

DCS ISO Enter
1.25u DSA shift
2x 1u DSA blank keys
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:12:27 »
thanks! i am building the info and will do this group buy.
I intend this to be a groupbuy to include keys not in the other set that everyone needs to make it complete.
please post requests with explanations as to why you need them in this thread.
I will compile a complete list of part numbers etc from sp when everyone has there input

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:22:03 »
some might want 2x 1u DSA blank keys in both colors for a total of 4x 1u DSA blanks.
please post feedback.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:25:03 »
if you are going to offer blanks, offer all of them :) (yeah that's for you Ergodox users!)

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:46:07 »
if you are going to offer blanks, offer all of them :) (yeah that's for you Ergodox users!)
This is my first group buy. Would you mind helping me build this list?

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 12:59:16 »
I'm definitely in for this! Also: by "offer all blanks" do you mean for modifiers as well?! I'm still dying to try out an all-deep-dish blank keyboard. Please offer deep dish blanks!  ;D If others are keen of course

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 13:09:14 »
yeah I mean all mods at least up to 2u. deep dish included of course. but that would be a hell of a GB...

also some legends for EU countries would be nice.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 13:15:26 »
I'll honestly be happy with anything that comes from this GB! But if blanks are offered I'll definitely get a second set of blanks! And LOADS of deep dishes just to see what that's like :P Is the profile of the DCS ISO enter quite different from the rest of the DSA family?

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 13:41:32 »
I would be interested if this is offered:

Stepped Capslock - center stemmed ( Modern boards)
Stepped Capslock - off center stemmed ( Cherry / Korean boards)
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 13:54:16 »
Ansi Enter key in 1.25 size
and many blanks sizes
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 16 June 2013, 14:07:28 »
I am open to offer all the mods and suggestions made. the only issue I will have is the stepped capslocks and obtaining permission from the people that own the tooling at otd

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 00:13:53 »
here is what I have came up with so far.

I was thinking this would be one big set. with a few minimal optional kits
It will support all phantom/gh60/ergodox/fullsize ansi & iso layouts
it will also include the ISO return and short RETURN keys missing from DrugER's DSA Dolch Groupbuy.

I will maybe have a option for RGB DSA Mods in this.

The kits have not been split yet but this spreadsheet has the general idea.

link removed it was out of date.
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 01:48:03 »
Very interested in all this. How about some 1x1 mods too! like for the Cherry G80-1865s
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 01:53:41 »
Very interested in all this. How about some 1x1 mods too! like for the Cherry G80-1865s

please look at my link. it will be a full set with a ton of 1u keys in all styles

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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 01:54:46 »
YAH!!! and RGB Mods!!!
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 01:56:47 »
tomorrow if will build mockups. all blanks will be pbt. keys with legends will be abs.
i will have to figure out the sp colorway codes for the pbt keys as these codes are for abs

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 02:02:33 »
Guys, a complex config like that is the best way to the Sanatorium.

Keep things simple, especially if this is your first GB.

Just make kit 1: tkl, kit 2: numpad, kit 3: winkeyless, kit 4: ISO and that's it.

If you really really want add the gamer's kit (maybe in just one color) and two windowed keys and put them both into the kit 1.

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 02:29:34 »
Guys, a complex config like that is the best way to the Sanatorium.

Keep things simple, especially if this is your first GB.

Just make kit 1: tkl, kit 2: numpad, kit 3: winkeyless, kit 4: ISO and that's it.

If you really really want add the gamer's kit (maybe in just one color) and two windowed keys and put them both into the kit 1.

I will put them in kits tomorrow. I was just trying to figure out all the combinations that would be needed if you wanted to have everything.
I was thinking the following kits
TKL base
tenkey addon
winkeyless mods
ISO blank
ISO addon for DSA Dolch Replica with legends including short ansi RETURN.
Gamer kits(deepdish of the standard colors)
RGBY mods

it will have descriptions like:
if you have a ergodox then order ######
if you have a cherry with 1u mods order #######
if you have are ordering for a gh60 and want the max keys layout order #####
if you have a phantom in 7 bit layout order ######
etc, etc

could someone please help me to obtain the following colorway codes?
ABS GE = PBT ???
ABS GX = PBT ???

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 02:37:02 »
ABS and PBT colors never 100% match (not even pure black and pure white).

the addons to the Dolch replica GB should be in ABS!

the closest to GE are GQT (way darker) and GJQ (way lighter)

the closest to GX I'd say it's GSF
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 02:44:56 »
ABS and PBT colors never 100% match (not even pure black and pure white).

the addons to the Dolch replica GB should be in ABS!
ok I will keep it all abs. it will be much easier.
I was going to have abs for the addons and a complete set of blanks in pbt.
it is just going to end up being way to much trouble and the colors won't match.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:37:41 »
I will put them in kits tomorrow. I was just trying to figure out all the combinations that would be needed if you wanted to have everything.
I was thinking the following kits
TKL base
tenkey addon
winkeyless mods
ISO blank
ISO addon for DSA Dolch Replica with legends including short ansi RETURN.
Gamer kits(deepdish of the standard colors)
RGBY mods

Oh my.. DSA RGBY?! This keeps getting better and better! I was very happy to see that there's a 1.75x Shift key on the DOLCH REPLICA gb... I'd be over the moon if the RGBY set included the same.

This is going to be one classy set! DSA Retro Dolch with RGB.

Wanting this for my ISO GH60. I wonder how many other people are doing the same? Reason I ask is, there will be LED support for WASD. Maybe it's worth suggesting a clear legend Dolch light grey gamer set? I don't know? That kind of subtlety I think is really great.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:58:18 »
Also: this is just my opinion, but since the legends on the Dolch scheme are white, +1 for white legends on the RGB set.

Though if RGBY is more of a focus, I guess white on yellow might not have enough contrast. I personally am not interested in the yellow modifier keys.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 08:29:30 »
Also: this is just my opinion, but since the legends on the Dolch scheme are white, +1 for white legends on the RGB set.

Though if RGBY is more of a focus, I guess white on yellow might not have enough contrast. I personally am not interested in the yellow modifier keys.
All the other white legend kits look good. I don't see why this one wouldn't.
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 09:12:41 »
yes the rgby will be with white legends

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 13:37:20 »
Groupbuy - DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions and Blank Sets

First I would like to say the purpose of this groupbuy is to provide members with the keys
that will be missing from Team Redline/DrugER's DSA Dolch Retro groupbuy.

The scope has grown to include complete DSA Blank kits in the Dolch Color Scheme and DSA RGBY Kits!

All keys are ABS and the keys with print are double-shot with white legends.

ISO addon Kit
For DSA Dolch Replica with legends including short ansi RETURN. - 8 keys total

Kit1
This will include:
 - ISO dcs gx RETURN Key with legends matching the DSA Dolch groupbuy mentioned above
 - ISO dcs gx RETURN blank
 - 1.25u gx dsa Short ansi RETURN with legends
 - 1.25u gx dsa Short ansi blank
 - 1.25u gx DSA shift with legends
 - 1.25u gx DSA shift blank
 - 1x 1u ge \| with legends
 - 1x 1u gx \| with legends
- 1x 1u gx BACK with legends

DSA RGBY mods
Kit2
RCQ -red
VCM - green
BFK - blue
YBP - yellow

All doubleshot with white legends - 20 keys total
 - 2x 1.25u Red CONTROL
 - 2x 1.25u Blue ALT
 - 1x 2.25u Green SHIFT
 - 1x 2.75u Green SHIFT
 - 2x 1.25 Yellow WIN
 - 1x 1.25u Yellow MENU
 - 1x 1.25u Yellow FN
 - 2x 1.5u Red CONTROL
 - 2x 1.5u Blue ALT
 - 1x 1u Yellow WIN
 - 1x 1u Yellow MENU
 - 2x 1u Yellow FN
 - 1x 1.25u Green SHIFT - Pure short right SHIFT
 - 1x 1.75u Green SHIFT - short left SHIFT

Blanks sets
Kit3
 - Tenkeyless Base Kit - 87 keys total
 - 19x 1u GX blanks standard
 - 53x 1u GE blanks standard
 - 3x 1.5u GX blanks standard backspace, tab, \|
 - 1x 1.75u GX blanks standard capslock full touch center stem
 - 1x 2.25u GX blanks standard RETURN, SHIFT
 - 1x 2.75U GX blanks standard SHIFT
 - 7x 1.25u GX blanks standard Mods
 - 1x 6.25u GE DSA Spacebar
 - 1x 6.25u GE DCS Universal Spacebar

Kit4
Tenkey Kit - 26 keys total
 - 15x 1u GE blanks standard
 - 1x 1u GE blank deepdish
 - 3x 2u GE blanks standard
 - 5x 1u GX blanks standard
 - 2x 2u GX Blanks standard

Kit5
Alternate Modifers/Alternate layout Kit/7u spacebars - 15 keys total
 - 4x 1.5u GX blanks standard CONTROL, ALT
 - 7x 1u GX blanks standard WIN, MENU, FN, 2x Extra 1u for short L and short R
 - 1x 1.25u GX blanks standard SHIFT
 - 1x 1.75u GX blanks standard SHIFT
 - 1x 7u GE DSA Spacebar
 - 1x 7u GE DCS Spacebar

Kit6
ErgoDox Addon Kit - 56 keys total - Don't forget to order the tkl kit above!
 - 4x 2u GX blanks standard
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks standard
 - 20 1u GE blanks standard
 - 20 1u GX blanks standard

Gamer kits(deepdish of the standard colors)
two kits available

Kit 7
GE Blank Gamer Kit
8 keys total to allow full homerow (asdf & JKL:) + gamer positions (in wasd/esdf & ijkl)
 - 8x 1u GE blanks deepdish F,J,WASD,I,JKL

Kit 8
GX Blank Gamer Kit
8 keys total to allow full homerow (asdf & JKL:) + gamer positions (in wasd/esdf & ijkl)
 - 8x 1u GX blanks deepdish F,J,WASD,I,JKL
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 17 June 2013, 20:34:14 »
I am getting quotes from SP. they told me they should be ready tomorrow.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 01:22:35 »
ISO addon Kit - for DSA Dolch Replica with legends including short ansi RETURN. - 12 keys total
This will include:
 - ISO dcs RETURN Key with legends matching the DSA Dolch groupbuy mentioned above
 - ISO dcs Blank key without legends
 - 1.25u dsa Short ansi RETURN with legends
 - 1.25u dsa Short ansi RETURN without legends
 - 1.25u DSA shift with legends
 - 1.25u DSA shift blank
 - 3x 1u ge blanks
 - 3x 1u gx blanks

Just checking... have you decided to use blank 1u keys for `~ and \|  ??
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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 03:24:43 »
ISO addon Kit - for DSA Dolch Replica with legends including short ansi RETURN. - 12 keys total
This will include:
 - ISO dcs RETURN Key with legends matching the DSA Dolch groupbuy mentioned above
 - ISO dcs Blank key without legends
 - 1.25u dsa Short ansi RETURN with legends
 - 1.25u dsa Short ansi RETURN without legends
 - 1.25u DSA shift with legends
 - 1.25u DSA shift blank
 - 3x 1u ge blanks
 - 3x 1u gx blanks

Just checking... have you decided to use blank 1u keys for `~ and \|  ??

`~ is already part of the other groupbuy and I was using a blank for \|
I was going off of the suggestion of others.
I do not use iso. what is your suggestion?


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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 03:30:49 »
ISO addon Kit - for DSA Dolch Replica with legends including short ansi RETURN. - 12 keys total
This will include:
 - ISO dcs RETURN Key with legends matching the DSA Dolch groupbuy mentioned above
 - ISO dcs Blank key without legends
 - 1.25u dsa Short ansi RETURN with legends
 - 1.25u dsa Short ansi RETURN without legends
 - 1.25u DSA shift with legends
 - 1.25u DSA shift blank
 - 3x 1u ge blanks
 - 3x 1u gx blanks

Just checking... have you decided to use blank 1u keys for `~ and \|  ??

`~ is already part of the other groupbuy and I was using a blank for \|
I was going off of the suggestion of others.
I do not use iso. what is your suggestion?

Ah! Right you are!

It doesn't mean the greatest deal to me, but if the |\ key is a blank it will be the only blank on my keyboard. So if I could choose I'd like the legend on that key. But I'm happy with anything that's decided for this GB! In for an ISO addon set as well as a RGBY set.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 03:43:47 »
thank you for pointing that out. when I get the quotes back from SP later this morning I will fix the iso kit.
I think it might have a few to many 1u keys.

hopefully that might lower the cost a little.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 04:20:24 »
Yeah, I personally wouldn't use any of the blank 1u keys if the \| key is supplied. My layout will have a 1.75u Shift_R, and a 1u additional key to the right of it, but the DOLCH REPLICA set comes with quite a few 1u keys, and since my form factor is going to be 60%, I'm gonna have quite a few spare keys :)

Thanks for running this! Otherwise I wouldn't be able to participate in my favorite colour scheme, in my favorite profile, AND: DSA RGB mods?! Couldn't be more perfect!

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:20:43 »
I have received the final quotes and will open the actual group buy shortly.

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:23:56 »
My wallet hates you =P

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Re: [IC] ISO Addon for DSA Dolch Replica
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 18 June 2013, 13:29:32 »
mine also. lol