Blue Screen Of Death

[Tym]

I would try the memory test and individual sticks, but since I had 2 in one day (Tuesday) I must have used my PC for 25+ hours totally fine [Touch wood] so if I get another problem im just going to try and forget about it.

[Yzeets]

Good luck hopefully it doesn't come back!

[Leslieann]

Ntoskrnl IS Windows (it's the underlying system), so if anything crashes windows to bluescreen, it crashes ntoskernel.
It's generic, like saying your car crashed, because your car crashed.

In laymans terms, this happens because it crashed so bad and fast that Windows never even had a chance to log what caused it. All it knows is that it crashed.

[Tym]

Ntoskrnl IS Windows (it's the underlying system), so if anything crashes windows to bluescreen, it crashes ntoskernel.
It's generic, like saying your car crashed, because your car crashed.

In laymans terms, this happens because it crashed so bad and fast that Windows never even had a chance to log what caused it. All it knows is that it crashed.

Oh thanks :3 Thank you to everyone, but you especially!

[Quardah]

Error code 0x0000001E

Google is your friend...

[pr1me]

Try run command prompt as admin and type the following

Sfc /scannow

even tho it's probably not related to your problem a check wont hurt it 

[Leslieann]

Error code 0x0000001E

Google is your friend...

Not always.
Try searching that error and see what you actually get, pages and pages of people throwing out random guesses.
Even Microsoft will tell they need more info.

Try run command prompt as admin and type the following
Sfc /scannow
even tho it's probably not related to your problem a check wont hurt it 

Unless it's your drive failing, in which case you just told it to work even harder to kill itself.

[microsoft windows]

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[Quardah]

Error code 0x0000001E

Google is your friend...

Not always.
Try searching that error and see what you actually get, pages and pages of people throwing out random guesses.
Even Microsoft will tell they need more info.

If you can't fix the error using the error code, you are not trying hard enough. That's the only start point you'll ever have when it comes to BSOD, every problem starts being fix by this. Now give it an hour or two of reading and you'll fix it eventually.

People throw random guesses yeah. Ignore them. Instead read those who had the error code and find out what they did to fix up their ****s. If you do the same most probably it'll also fix your problem.

[Leslieann]

If you can't fix the error using the error code, you are not trying hard enough. That's the only start point you'll ever have when it comes to BSOD, every problem starts being fix by this. Now give it an hour or two of reading and you'll fix it eventually.

People throw random guesses yeah. Ignore them. Instead read those who had the error code and find out what they did to fix up their ****s. If you do the same most probably it'll also fix your problem.

Seriously search up that error and see what you get.
You cannot fix an error the error with that one snippet of code, even Microsoft says so. It's a pretty generic error code.

Because of that, you will ONLY get random guesses on how to fix it. If you are just following what they did, how is that not just following random advice?

[Quardah]

If you can't fix the error using the error code, you are not trying hard enough. That's the only start point you'll ever have when it comes to BSOD, every problem starts being fix by this. Now give it an hour or two of reading and you'll fix it eventually.

People throw random guesses yeah. Ignore them. Instead read those who had the error code and find out what they did to fix up their ****s. If you do the same most probably it'll also fix your problem.

Seriously search up that error and see what you get.
You cannot fix an error the error with that one snippet of code, even Microsoft says so. It's a pretty generic error code.

Because of that, you will ONLY get random guesses on how to fix it. If you are just following what they did, how is that not just following random advice?

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If you never try anything yourself you will never become good at anything. Yeah, you could simply call someone to fix that up for some cash, or simply post on forums and wait for someone to answer and then try his random guess...

While on the other hand you could man the **** up and work it out like a real IT would do. Weither it's generic or not, what are you going to do? Sit down, ignore it and cry about it? No one is going to fix your computer; Open it yourself and find out the problem.

Oh and whatever Microsoft says; they are dieing for a reason.

[Leslieann]

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If you never try anything yourself you will never become good at anything. Yeah, you could simply call someone to fix that up for some cash, or simply post on forums and wait for someone to answer and then try his random guess...

While on the other hand you could man the **** up and work it out like a real IT would do. Weither it's generic or not, what are you going to do? Sit down, ignore it and cry about it? No one is going to fix your computer; Open it yourself and find out the problem.

Oh and whatever Microsoft says; they are dieing for a reason.

I never said don't try, I offered quite a few tips (from the trenches) on how to actually fix it, rather than just randomly trying what others have before.


MS is not dying because they suck, in fact they aren't even dying.
They are in a state of panic because their industry is under severe change, MS lacked the proper vision to get into smart phones and tablets (Apple went left, while MS went straight). MS has over $60 billion in cash reserves alone, if they can't engineer a way out, they can simply buy their way in. They likely have the cash, stock and credit to buy HTC, Nokia, Blackberry and LG's phone division, and barely bat an eye.

If I had to pick between Apple and MS as to which company will be here or at least "winning" in 20 years, my money is on Microsoft. Apple has already shown it doesn't do well without Steve Jobs, and they already show signs of reverting to traditional business practices, which nearly killed them the last time they did. Apple has only a few products, Microsoft on the other hand, has their hands in a LOT of cookie jars. At the same time Apples phone "dominance shrunk by 5% to 15%, Microsoft went UP to 50% on server dominance, they also just put Office on Iphone and soon(?) Android.

[mauri]

It's not like something is broken, bsod is a feature

[Quardah]

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If you never try anything yourself you will never become good at anything. Yeah, you could simply call someone to fix that up for some cash, or simply post on forums and wait for someone to answer and then try his random guess...

While on the other hand you could man the **** up and work it out like a real IT would do. Weither it's generic or not, what are you going to do? Sit down, ignore it and cry about it? No one is going to fix your computer; Open it yourself and find out the problem.

Oh and whatever Microsoft says; they are dieing for a reason.

I never said don't try, I offered quite a few tips (from the trenches) on how to actually fix it, rather than just randomly trying what others have before.


MS is not dying because they suck, in fact they aren't even dying.
They are in a state of panic because their industry is under severe change, MS lacked the proper vision to get into smart phones and tablets (Apple went left, while MS went straight). MS has over $60 billion in cash reserves alone, if they can't engineer a way out, they can simply buy their way in. They likely have the cash, stock and credit to buy HTC, Nokia, Blackberry and LG's phone division, and barely bat an eye.

If I had to pick between Apple and MS as to which company will be here or at least "winning" in 20 years, my money is on Microsoft. Apple has already shown it doesn't do well without Steve Jobs, and they already show signs of reverting to traditional business practices, which nearly killed them the last time they did. Apple has only a few products, Microsoft on the other hand, has their hands in a LOT of cookie jars. At the same time Apples phone "dominance shrunk by 5% to 15%, Microsoft went UP to 50% on server dominance, they also just put Office on Iphone and soon(?) Android.

Apple is not doing well without Steve Jobs?

- Took control of 7 Inch tablet market with a SINGLE tablet,
- App store is one of the biggest money making service online as of today considering it serves both iPhones (iPod) and iPads (about 400% revenu versus Googleplay according to Distimo http://i.imgur.com/vLrGquu.jpg read full articles on their site)
- iTunes store still biggest music selling service online, manage to STILL sell an incredible amound of content in an era of piracy,
- Slowly creating standard in laptops using only two devices,
- Standardized Apps, will work on any device still supported (3 years support means everything will work for 3 years and maybe more if you're lucky (Think iPad 2, gets extended support cause of iPad Mini))
- Standardized devices, only has a few. All works perfect together and only has 4 resolution form factors for developpers to take care of, versus Android that has about 50 different resolution on millions of ****ty devices,
- Fastest SSD in a laptop to this day, first firm pushing forward using PCI SSDs
- Will release next generation Mac Pro which is incredibly innovative, using centered cooling with a single fan for an entire workstation,
- Holds firm as first in line versus an entire team of losers working together
- Not boosting their numbers using second-world market like android does (Which is pretty pathetic. Of course there's more Android Users, Android runs on 30$ phones!)
- Also considering buying biggest Canadian Smartphone Enterprise (BlackBerry)

And biggest enterprise in the world to this day, bigger then oil giants.

Office for iPad isn't happening, Microsoft side disapproval. Apple already agreed but Microsoft doesn't want to give them business upper hand. Same for Android with Google. It has been around for a while.

Also money in bank doesn't matter, that will not create clients. Also will never buy Android supporting device manufacturers since they have their own Phone OS.

Wanna see what Microsoft did since Jobs died?

- Create Win8, biggest failure ever. For anyone who used it will say GUI is cool and gorgeous but the OS isn't working potent at all. Removes basic function like GUI Ad Hoc network creation, start menu (which has been arround since Win95 or so)...
- Tries to push for a online app market for Win8 devices but fails miserably.
- Incredible fail with Surface. Surface RT is **** and Surface Pro is cool but ****ing twice the price of an iPad retina.
- Failed and kneel in front of Masterful Sony PS3 at E3, showing off XBox One which was incredibly poor. Patheticly trying to get back its audience after saying it'll spy on them 24/7 and deny them service they pay for if they don't log on the internet.
- Phone Market not doing well at all
- Still hasn't killed Games For Windows Live service which is worldwide reknown to be the worst gaming service of all time.
- Dropped support for their best-selling and best-compatible operating system ever made, Windows XP. (Why didn't they extended support while it's the most used operating system in enterprises to this day?)
- Creates Office 365 which is an epic failure considering no single users pay for a licence for office. Instead of being charged once in a while say hello to piratebay once and never ever hear of microsoft again.
- Updated logo that they have been using for 20 years to some newer ghey**** logo.

[Leslieann]

Apple is not doing well without Steve Jobs?

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You may hate office 365, but it's still Office on the Iphone and people are using it
Much of your other stiff is inconsequential. Fastest SSD? That isn't their technology and it doesn't mean they are doing well (nor will it dramatically increase sales). The gray logo? How does that effect their bottom line or value? Look at the bigger picture and history.

Apple is still living off the things Jobs did, but they are working to change that, it's not going to drop overnight.
The head is now the bean counter, and that's never good. A bean counter who bows to the investors, even worse... A bean counter who bows to investors, at a company who focused on high end products, is pretty much the worst thing possible. Jobs almost never bowed to investors or bean counters. His whole plan was simply make the best devices Apple could, and people will pay for it. Jobs didn't want lawsuits out the ying yang, he would rather out innovate, and out design the competition, and he was vehemently opposed to a 7in tablet. You are only just seeing the tip of the iceberg for Apple changes and it's the core of Apple that is changing.

Larry Ellison feels the same way. As he and I both said, we've been down this path before. Apple isn't the typical company, that's what made it special. Jobs made it work. You cannot run that company like a typical company. Which is what they plan to do with it now because they don't know how to run it like Jobs did. Once that magical aura is gone, which is what is keeping the riding high at the moment, Apple will fall. Can you honestly say Apple still holds that same aura without him?


Don't get me wrong, I don't idolize Jobs, or Gates for that matter, both have serious flaws. So why would I bet on MS...  I never said MS wasn't having issues, in fact, I said they were, however, they have the product diversity, which is why they can have failures and keep going,  and money to get beyond it. Apple doesn't have a diverse product line, they have very few products, all tied together, and a lot of money. We already know desktops are in decline, that shrinks Apples product line by half. Their cell phone dominance dropped 25%, and that's not insignificant. Yes, Apple has Itunes, but like I said, that's tied to the Iphone, if Iphone sales drop, so does Itunes.

But I digress, we have gone waaaaay off topic here.

[Tym]

I don't mind, you fixed my problem (Touch Wood)

[SpAmRaY]

I don't mind, you fixed my problem (Touch Wood)

Knock on wood.

Touch wood is usually awkward.

[Tym]

We (anyone I know) say Touch Wood here, maybe we're all perv's.

[SpAmRaY]

We (anyone I know) say Touch Wood here, maybe we're all perv's.

Its Ok I still love you!

[Tym]

 

[Quardah]

Apple is not doing well without Steve Jobs?

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You may hate office 365, but it's still Office on the Iphone and people are using it
Much of your other stiff is inconsequential. Fastest SSD? That isn't their technology and it doesn't mean they are doing well (nor will it dramatically increase sales). The gray logo? How does that effect their bottom line or value? Look at the bigger picture and history.

Apple is still living off the things Jobs did, but they are working to change that, it's not going to drop overnight.
The head is now the bean counter, and that's never good. A bean counter who bows to the investors, even worse... A bean counter who bows to investors, at a company who focused on high end products, is pretty much the worst thing possible. Jobs almost never bowed to investors or bean counters. His whole plan was simply make the best devices Apple could, and people will pay for it. Jobs didn't want lawsuits out the ying yang, he would rather out innovate, and out design the competition, and he was vehemently opposed to a 7in tablet. You are only just seeing the tip of the iceberg for Apple changes and it's the core of Apple that is changing.

Larry Ellison feels the same way. As he and I both said, we've been down this path before. Apple isn't the typical company, that's what made it special. Jobs made it work. You cannot run that company like a typical company. Which is what they plan to do with it now because they don't know how to run it like Jobs did. Once that magical aura is gone, which is what is keeping the riding high at the moment, Apple will fall. Can you honestly say Apple still holds that same aura without him?


Don't get me wrong, I don't idolize Jobs, or Gates for that matter, both have serious flaws. So why would I bet on MS...  I never said MS wasn't having issues, in fact, I said they were, however, they have the product diversity, which is why they can have failures and keep going,  and money to get beyond it. Apple doesn't have a diverse product line, they have very few products, all tied together, and a lot of money. We already know desktops are in decline, that shrinks Apples product line by half. Their cell phone dominance dropped 25%, and that's not insignificant. Yes, Apple has Itunes, but like I said, that's tied to the Iphone, if Iphone sales drop, so does Itunes.

But I digress, we have gone waaaaay off topic here.

Very good response, i have to say. I am impressed by the consistency of the content you are saying.

And since we're already off topic let's be even more.

You're right about the new CEO, Tim Cock sucks balls.

I have to say i agree that Jobs was making Apple somewhat special against other enterprises but although they are currently going against some of his ideas, i believe they are still doing a great job keeping the standards. Except for the iPad Mini which i believe Jobs was wrong to be against (it was the easiest market to take control of and he denied it because he thought there was no future in 7inch tablets...), i think Apple is still doing a good job keeping on the same track they were on beforehand.

I like the way Apple makes their devices; compatible to each other, top-notch performance, incredibly stable operating systems, stock devices come already tuned to work properly and still has plenty of different customization available, will customize itself automatically to its user and most importantly the devices are very hard to break.

People usually asks me for the iOS versus Android debate and i always ask them a very simple question about hardware; would you rather have a phone made out of plastic or made out of metal? Fairly easy to choose.

Same for OSX versus Windows; Except for Gaming, programming and/or specific applications for the job, why would you get Windows? Not talking price here, only Operating systems. That's why so many students get Mac computers!

They are here to stay for the only reason that their "uniqueness" will keep them alive. Just like old times versus Microsoft on Desktop computers; they'll keep a small % of the market on everything (except for laptops, i really think MacBooks are going to take over soon on the laptop market)

[Leslieann]

Very good response, i have to say. I am impressed by the consistency of the content you are saying.

And since we're already off topic let's be even more.

You're right about the new CEO, Tim Cock sucks balls.

I have to say i agree that Jobs was making Apple somewhat special against other enterprises but although they are currently going against some of his ideas, i believe they are still doing a great job keeping the standards. Except for the iPad Mini which i believe Jobs was wrong to be against (it was the easiest market to take control of and he denied it because he thought there was no future in 7inch tablets...), i think Apple is still doing a good job keeping on the same track they were on beforehand.

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People usually asks me for the iOS versus Android debate and i always ask them a very simple question about hardware; would you rather have a phone made out of plastic or made out of metal? Fairly easy to choose.

Thanks.
I too agree about the 7in Ipad, however, not all of the rest.

For the moment, their design style remains, as does most of the quality, but for how long? Investors love to cut costs, R&D and art is two of their favorite places. On the other hand, they love patents and lawyers, and Apple, if you haven't noticed, lawyered up.

Apple? Customization options? Hard to break? 


While I like metal, I believe in a metal framework, not a metal case. Metal looks and feels luxurious, but after having both, plastic deforms and returns to shape, metal does not. My old LG fell 8 feet onto concrete without a case, it survived with only a minor scuff. Try that on a bare Iphone and if it still works, the first thing you will do is look up your insurance policy. And yes, you can get metal Androids, HTC has made metal Androids for years, going back at least to the Evo 4g.



Students don't care about compatibility, they care about being trendy, they only need to be compatible with those around them.
Why would you get Windows? Because of compatibility with nearly every other business out there. There are still tons of websites that are I.E. only, you may be unaware of them, but they are still fairly common in corporate America. And that's not all, try buying a laser printer for an office... They aren't all OSX compatible, and if they are, there is no guarantee it will work with your version (Tiger, Leo, etc...). Many of my clients are web based businesses (all their software is online) and use common laser printers, I can tell you horror stories of mac users trying to fit in at several offices, trust me, it's not smooth at all. The new hires who bring a Mac either don't last long, or they go buy a PC.  You can keep your aluminum Mac, too. My Sony is magnesium and Carbon Fiber. As have many Sonys over the years. Drop that Mac, or Air, I know what happens to them... Same thing as the Iphone. My Sony has 40k miles of travel on it and been beat to hell, it still looks and works fantastic. So is the previous one, and the one before that, both of which were almost all magnesium.

You wonder why I would buy a PC instead of a Mac, as a person working in I.T. in corporate America,  I wonder why you would buy a Mac.

[Quardah]

I'm also IT, in North America Also

I really can't see how you could break a 4S. Its Titanium Framework/sheel makes it pretty hard to break.

It's true that in Enterprises I-E and Windows are required, simply because the working models these enterprises use were always based on Microsoft models. Now take a Mac-Only environment, you would defenetly need less ITs. Newer shared scanners are e-scan, which means they e-mail stuff. Mac or Win, it'll work no matter what. Printers are even way easier to manage with Airprint.

An entire enterprise could easily work Mac-Only and it would still do great.

[Leslieann]

I really can't see how you could break a 4S. Its Titanium Framework/sheel makes it pretty hard to break.

It's true that in Enterprises I-E and Windows are required, simply because the working models these enterprises use were always based on Microsoft models. Now take a Mac-Only environment, you would defenetly need less ITs. Newer shared scanners are e-scan, which means they e-mail stuff. Mac or Win, it'll work no matter what. Printers are even way easier to manage with Airprint.

An entire enterprise could easily work Mac-Only and it would still do great.

(bold) You're kidding right?
It's become a joke that people buy such a nice looking phone, only to put a case on it. I know one person who went through one every 6 months. The 4s may be an aluminum frame, but they used glass on front and back... GENIUS! Drop it onto any corner and the glass gets pinched. Yes, you could say the aluminum held up, but did it? It pinched the glass, but even if you ignore that and say the frame stayed intact... The glass still broke, so what good did your expensive frame do for you? Nothing.

Another issue I have with Iphones...
Do most  people really need a fragile $800 computer in their pocket? Most people use them as a daily planner, take pictures, calls and text. That's pretty much it once they get tired of Angry Birds, they seem to forget it can do more than a cheap phone could do. Even an early model smart phone could handle what they use them for, and yet they all run out for the next Iphone when it comes out. Cracks me up.


An Enterprise could go Mac and do well, until you add users. How many Mac users STILL think they are invulnerable, they just got hit bad the other day, and Apple HATES to admit when there is a problem. Remember the biggest security threat to computers isn't a trojan, it's the person using it. When something does happen, Macs lack the tools to easily remove the junk, and many don;'t even have a clue they have a problem anyway. They still have to work with industry standards, so yes, some could transition, but most couldn't. Another issue is training people to use it. While it may be easy to learn, I have customers who can barely figure out how to get the pictures off their cameras. One even hires someone to do email because he has so much trouble with it. I have another who is 93, I'm not training any of them on how to use a Mac.


As for less employees, honestly, I don't understand why some companies need so much I.T. to begin with. I handled a 70 system/4 server building on a part time basis. Yes, some days were long, other weeks I never even set foot in the office except to get my paycheck. As it is now, I handle around 300 systems spread across 60 miles and even that isn't a full time job. Would running Mac or Linux mean less work? Yes, in terms of maintenance, but it would mean a WHOLE lot more calls on "how can my son play Call Of Duty?"

[domoaligato]

Could be your memory timings might need set in the BIOS. What motherboard and ram?