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Offline Icte

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:36:38 »
When coding or programming ANSI is much easier to use, I also prefer the ANSI Enter cluster over ISO one, however when typing Swedish ISO layout is much better designed than ANSI.
What about JP (if you prefer the ISO Enter key)?

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:39:54 »
When coding or programming ANSI is much easier to use, I also prefer the ANSI Enter cluster over ISO one, however when typing Swedish ISO layout is much better designed than ANSI.
What about JP (if you prefer the ISO Enter key)?
I don't prefer ISO enter.
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Offline Icte

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:41:55 »
When coding or programming ANSI is much easier to use, I also prefer the ANSI Enter cluster over ISO one, however when typing Swedish ISO layout is much better designed than ANSI.
What about JP (if you prefer the ISO Enter key)?
I don't prefer ISO enter.
I ment if you're an ISO fan - would JP be more suitable for programming IYO?

Offline jameslr

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:19:53 »
Looks like there's an update from Ducky-Nordic on DT regarding availability of the Ducky Mini:

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ducky-nordic-keyboards-keycaps-projects-and-misc-stuff-t4718-750.html

They're scheduled to have them in September it appears. Not sure when the ANSI boards will be out.
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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 13:54:07 »
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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 15:47:34 »
When coding or programming ANSI is much easier to use, I also prefer the ANSI Enter cluster over ISO one, however when typing Swedish ISO layout is much better designed than ANSI.
What about JP (if you prefer the ISO Enter key)?
I don't prefer ISO enter.
I ment if you're an ISO fan - would JP be more suitable for programming IYO?
What I want is really ANSI with short left shift.
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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:06:42 »
What I want is really ANSI with short left shift.

This is the one thing I really learned to love about ANSI (apart from the symbol locations on US ANSI for programming). I don't care about ISO or ANSI enter, but the long left shift really is useful imo and makes sense to me.

Offline Topre

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:11:15 »
If you don't mind doing a bit of desoldering/soldering and getting a few new keycaps, the Poker II PCB does support the ISO layout. You will either need to run it plate-free or get an ISO plate for it.

Edit: I just noticed dorkvader mentioned this. But modding it for full ISO support is not hard, just desolder everything to get rid of the plate. Or desolder a few switches and cut a few holes in the plate. All you have to do is select whatever layout you use on your computer to make it run on your layout.
« Last Edit: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:14:59 by Topre »

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:16:48 »
What I want is really ANSI with short left shift.

This is the one thing I really learned to love about ANSI (apart from the symbol locations on US ANSI for programming). I don't care about ISO or ANSI enter, but the long left shift really is useful imo and makes sense to me.

I've seen far to many keyboards where the right shift is bigger than the left one.
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Offline Icte

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 04:54:46 »
If you don't mind doing a bit of desoldering/soldering and getting a few new keycaps, the Poker II PCB does support the ISO layout. You will either need to run it plate-free or get an ISO plate for it.

Edit: I just noticed dorkvader mentioned this. But modding it for full ISO support is not hard, just desolder everything to get rid of the plate. Or desolder a few switches and cut a few holes in the plate. All you have to do is select whatever layout you use on your computer to make it run on your layout.
Hm not a bad idea! Wouldn't have too much problems cutting the plate either (I got ze tools).. Poker II is fully programmable right?

Offline jameslr

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:02:27 »
If you don't mind doing a bit of desoldering/soldering and getting a few new keycaps, the Poker II PCB does support the ISO layout. You will either need to run it plate-free or get an ISO plate for it.

Edit: I just noticed dorkvader mentioned this. But modding it for full ISO support is not hard, just desolder everything to get rid of the plate. Or desolder a few switches and cut a few holes in the plate. All you have to do is select whatever layout you use on your computer to make it run on your layout.

Wouldn't you need new switches as well to go straight PCB mount? They don't have the pegs on the bottom of the switches if they're plate mounted if I remember right. Is there an easy way around this so you're not relying on the solder joints to keep your keys stable?

Edit: here is a pic for reference courtesy of Deskthority's wiki

« Last Edit: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:05:23 by jameslr »
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Offline Icte

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:12:41 »
If you don't mind doing a bit of desoldering/soldering and getting a few new keycaps, the Poker II PCB does support the ISO layout. You will either need to run it plate-free or get an ISO plate for it.

Edit: I just noticed dorkvader mentioned this. But modding it for full ISO support is not hard, just desolder everything to get rid of the plate. Or desolder a few switches and cut a few holes in the plate. All you have to do is select whatever layout you use on your computer to make it run on your layout.

Wouldn't you need new switches as well to go straight PCB mount? They don't have the pegs on the bottom of the switches if they're plate mounted if I remember right. Is there an easy way around this so you're not relying on the solder joints to keep your keys stable?

Edit: here is a pic for reference courtesy of Deskthority's wiki

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Yeah but luckily I need platemounted, PCB-mounted makes it too mushy imo  :p

Offline Topre

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:54:59 »
If you don't mind doing a bit of desoldering/soldering and getting a few new keycaps, the Poker II PCB does support the ISO layout. You will either need to run it plate-free or get an ISO plate for it.

Edit: I just noticed dorkvader mentioned this. But modding it for full ISO support is not hard, just desolder everything to get rid of the plate. Or desolder a few switches and cut a few holes in the plate. All you have to do is select whatever layout you use on your computer to make it run on your layout.
Hm not a bad idea! Wouldn't have too much problems cutting the plate either (I got ze tools).. Poker II is fully programmable right?

The Poker II is not fully programmable, or at least not yet until Vortex decides to release some software for users to program the Poker II with. The Poker II does seem to be able to accept firmware updates or be reprogrammed, I have no clue how to do it though.

Offline Topre

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Re: 60% ISO?
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:58:47 »
If you don't mind doing a bit of desoldering/soldering and getting a few new keycaps, the Poker II PCB does support the ISO layout. You will either need to run it plate-free or get an ISO plate for it.

Edit: I just noticed dorkvader mentioned this. But modding it for full ISO support is not hard, just desolder everything to get rid of the plate. Or desolder a few switches and cut a few holes in the plate. All you have to do is select whatever layout you use on your computer to make it run on your layout.

Wouldn't you need new switches as well to go straight PCB mount? They don't have the pegs on the bottom of the switches if they're plate mounted if I remember right. Is there an easy way around this so you're not relying on the solder joints to keep your keys stable?

Edit: here is a pic for reference courtesy of Deskthority's wiki

Show Image


PCB mounted switches has pins to help align the switches itself. It's not a big deal once it's soldered down, with solder the switches would have a hard time moving around.