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KeyCon 2014?
« on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 14:32:35 »
I had fun with this event.  Thanks all those guys that did the heavy lifting (mashby, Boilermaker, mkawa, did I miss anybody?).  Of course, none of them will admit it.

Lets start planning for 2014 already.  It's never too early!
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 14:34:40 »


lets do this
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 14:47:10 »
Moving to US just for this.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:00:32 »
Do New Orleans.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:06:33 »
Denver or bust!
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:13:20 »
Denver or bust!

Denver would be a long drive but I could pull it off.

Salt Lake City, perhaps? That seems like a pretty good central area for all the western US based people.


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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:40:12 »
There is very likely to be a KEYCON WEST 2014 early next year in either northern or southern california. i am in the very earliest of planning stages right now for it (ie, you have just heard exactly the extent to which i have planned)

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 15:49:47 »
No east coast luv

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:02:42 »
Yes please do one in California.  :cool:
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:08:50 »
Looks like we need three KeyCons.  East, west, and central.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:10:26 »
Looks like we need three KeyCons.  East, west, and central.

^^yep.  And I will go to them all!

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:13:00 »
Looks like we need three KeyCons.  East, west, and central.
i like this idea, but i'm also not opposed to smaller scale meetups. real life bonding only strengthens our community, no matter how it happens. it's awesome to have a huge event every once in a while, but don't think you need to match or surpass the scale of keycon just to say howdy to other people in the community that are near you. we are all friends and family here.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:14:50 »
I think it would be great with more organized meetups, much like at Head-fi. Sadly most of it will probably be US though :/
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 16:47:24 »
I'm down for San Francisco.
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 17:17:33 »
Can I suggest London
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 17:29:58 »
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 17:58:49 »
Australia?

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 18:07:01 »
Australia?

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Too few of us spread too far apart.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 18:07:43 »
Still gonna do another SP Seattle meet?

Yeah, everyone's requesting their own backyards  :p

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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 18:54:09 »
i'll break from the standard and suggest a site across the country from me, Vegas - specifically, January 11 or 12.

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  • lots of competition for venue and accommodations, so cost should be reasonable.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:11:00 »
Looks like we need three KeyCons.  East, west, and central.

This needs to happen! Anything close to Texas would be nice  ;)
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 19:14:15 »
No east coast luv

I'm bringing the east coast love.

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 20:04:45 »
Seriously guys, just do meet ups. They don't have to be hella official. They can be you and one dude nerding out about boards and talking about GH. Just because I'm crazy/lucky to have gone to more publicised meetups doesn't mean those are the only ones I've done. I've met up one-on-one with some local GHers, just meet your friends or some GHers. It's always a good time.

That being said, Keycon West? I'm 90% sure I'll be there. And I'll tell demik in person how amazing the East Coast really is. And I'd love to do more meets. Who wants to hang out? Let's make moves.
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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:08:46 »
Seriously guys, just do meet ups. They don't have to be hella official. They can be you and one dude nerding out about boards and talking about GH. Just because I'm crazy/lucky to have gone to more publicised meetups doesn't mean those are the only ones I've done. I've met up one-on-one with some local GHers, just meet your friends or some GHers. It's always a good time.

That being said, Keycon West? I'm 90% sure I'll be there. And I'll tell demik in person how amazing the East Coast really is. And I'd love to do more meets. Who wants to hang out? Let's make moves.

It's probably better to do one large meetup every now and again where as many can attend as possible, rather than an endless series of small gatherings with maybe only a hanf-dozen people at each one.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:18:31 »
Why not both?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:20:34 »
Seriously guys, just do meet ups. They don't have to be hella official. They can be you and one dude nerding out about boards and talking about GH. Just because I'm crazy/lucky to have gone to more publicised meetups doesn't mean those are the only ones I've done. I've met up one-on-one with some local GHers, just meet your friends or some GHers. It's always a good time.

That being said, Keycon West? I'm 90% sure I'll be there. And I'll tell demik in person how amazing the East Coast really is. And I'd love to do more meets. Who wants to hang out? Let's make moves.

It's probably better to do one large meetup every now and again where as many can attend as possible, rather than an endless series of small gatherings with maybe only a hanf-dozen people at each one.
I agree with you both and think these are not mutually exclusive ideas.  Have one (or a few, by region) huge event(s) called KeyCon Whatever, and have small local meetups because who doesn't enjoy seeing people even more and local?

Let's just have meetups every weekend, okay guys?

Who wants to hang out? Let's make moves.
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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:21:20 »
Ask me again in a little while and maybe we can do another mini-meet at like Gurnee or something :D
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:25:57 »
I have my own forum that I run with mainly Indian members and was part of some Indian tech sites, and we have several meetups in a year, almost monthly, not too many people, like 3-4. And then maybe twice a year, we have a bigger gathering with around 20 people or so.

We've come so close that we are better friends offline amongst ourselves, than with those in our our neighbourhood/college/uni/etc.

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:26:19 »
Why not both?

If someone goes to a couple of smaller local meetups, they are probably less likely to travel a bit further to go to a large meetup.

I've seen that quite a few times - the more small events you have, the less people go to each one, until it is only a couple of people turning up, and no-one bothers doing them any more.

If it is a yearly or twice yearly large central event with special promotions and guest speakers and pizza, then more people are likely to go out of their way to turn up.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:31:53 »
BUt, I've found smaller meetups is where you really get to know each other and befriend offline.

Larger events turn to conferences and is more "official"

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:32:38 »
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You might be right but I'm crazy and I show up to everything. You might find me in your neck of the woods sometime soon rowdy :P
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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 21:45:19 »
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You might be right but I'm crazy and I show up to everything. You might find me in your neck of the woods sometime soon rowdy :P

^^me too.  Any chance to meet up with people and I'll be there, within reason.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:15:23 »
Seriously guys, just do meet ups. They don't have to be hella official. They can be you and one dude nerding out about boards and talking about GH. Just because I'm crazy/lucky to have gone to more publicised meetups doesn't mean those are the only ones I've done. I've met up one-on-one with some local GHers, just meet your friends or some GHers. It's always a good time.

That being said, Keycon West? I'm 90% sure I'll be there. And I'll tell demik in person how amazing the East Coast really is. And I'd love to do more meets. Who wants to hang out? Let's make moves.

I agree with this sentiment.  Too many Keycons would water down the whole concept of an annual gathering.  Here I am, eating my earlier words about three Keycons.

I like that Vegas idea.  I am not familiar with how CES works, but having a keyboard presence there would be interesting.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:16:37 »
Trying to get the spring summer fall NYC meetup rolling!  :p

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:25:50 »
Why not both?

If someone goes to a couple of smaller local meetups, they are probably less likely to travel a bit further to go to a large meetup.

I've seen that quite a few times - the more small events you have, the less people go to each one, until it is only a couple of people turning up, and no-one bothers doing them any more.

If it is a yearly or twice yearly large central event with special promotions and guest speakers and pizza, then more people are likely to go out of their way to turn up.

Perhaps it has something to do with our larger population here in the States, but I think both ideas, large and small, can flourish in 'Murica.

I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Also, smaller meetups are a great way to know other enthusiasts and get comfortable with the community.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:28:30 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
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KeyAss(embly)
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:29:33 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
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KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:30:11 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)

Key'n'Key?  Just don't say it too fast.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:35:49 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:36:48 »
KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards.

Make sure CPTBadAss is able to attend.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:38:43 »
Seriously guys, just do meet ups. They don't have to be hella official. They can be you and one dude nerding out about boards and talking about GH. Just because I'm crazy/lucky to have gone to more publicised meetups doesn't mean those are the only ones I've done. I've met up one-on-one with some local GHers, just meet your friends or some GHers. It's always a good time.

That being said, Keycon West? I'm 90% sure I'll be there. And I'll tell demik in person how amazing the East Coast really is. And I'd love to do more meets. Who wants to hang out? Let's make moves.

I agree with this sentiment.  Too many Keycons would water down the whole concept of an annual gathering.  Here I am, eating my earlier words about three Keycons.

I like that Vegas idea.  I am not familiar with how CES works, but having a keyboard presence there would be interesting.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:49:42 »
BUt, I've found smaller meetups is where you really get to know each other and befriend offline.

Larger events turn to conferences and is more "official"

This was a (relatively) large meetup - didn't look too formal from what I saw of the video :)
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:55:03 »
I'd really like this to be an annual thing that takes place in Chicago since it's pretty easy for me since it isn't too far (like $50 in gas round trip) and free lodging. I don't think I could go if it were any further....
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:56:36 »
I'd really like this to be an annual thing that takes place in Chicago since it's pretty easy for me since it isn't too far (like $50 in gas round trip) and free lodging. I don't think I could go if it were any further....

>easy for ME

Do you really think geekhack revolves around you dude...
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:57:28 »
I'd really like this to be an annual thing that takes place in Chicago since it's pretty easy for me since it isn't too far (like $50 in gas round trip) and free lodging. I don't think I could go if it were any further....

>easy for ME

Do you really think geekhack revolves around you dude...

Quite a few people live in or near to Chicago. The last meetup we had a pretty good turnout, I think 10-15 people at that one.....
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:57:39 »
I'd really like this to be an annual thing that takes place in Chicago since it's pretty easy for me since it isn't too far (like $50 in gas round trip) and free lodging. I don't think I could go if it were any further....

Chicago is a really central place to the entire country, I think it's a great default location.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:59:03 »
I'd much rather a west coast meetup, there's actually things to do there.
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« Reply #47 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 22:59:35 »
I'd much rather a west coast meetup, there's actually things to do there.

Smoke crack and get beat up by cops?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:00:20 »
I'd much rather a west coast meetup, there's actually things to do there.

Smoke crack and get beat up by cops?

alongside my favorite mod JesusWasAZombie.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:00:55 »
I'd much rather a west coast meetup, there's actually things to do there.

Smoke crack and get beat up by cops?

alongside my favorite mod JesusWasAZombie.

yea, seeing JesusWasAZombie would be pretty cool

JesusWasAZombie is my favorite mod
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:01:14 »
I'd much rather a west coast meetup, there's actually things to do there.

Smoke crack and get beat up by cops?

whoa whoa whoa..

you're really giving cali **** when you went to chicago? home of homicide?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:01:39 »
whoa whoa whoa..

you're really giving cali **** when you went to chicago? home of homicide?

^this
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:18:49 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:22:42 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH

Including Self Defence 101 - How To Defend Yourself Against A Raging Bear Armed Only With A Model M?
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:23:05 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH

Including Self Defence 101 - How To Defend Yourself Against A Raging Bear Armed Only With A Model M?

And a moose with a model F?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:25:17 »
Is kmiller going to teach us how to start a fire by banging two clacks together?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:34:18 »
Is kmiller going to teach us how to start a fire by banging two clacks together?

:))
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:49:23 »
My vote would be let people organise smaller meet ups by state or whatever.  For the larger "KeyCon" events my vote would be to rotate the venue between central, east coast, west coast.  This way each region gets a Keycon.  Or you could do it every 6 months and then each region gets one every 18.  Personal suggestions for locations would be larger cities that have very busy airports just due to the fact that there is more competition for airfare, hotels, and actual venues which will help prices.  IE Chicago, Vegas, New York.  Again just my 2 caps worth.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:51:21 »
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KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH
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-How to roast your rubber domes over the fire and turn them into a tasty great
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-How to explain your keyboard addiction friends, family and co-workers
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-Composing keyboard campfire songs and sharing legends
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:57:23 »
We should also include blindfolded keyboard assembly. Fastest person wins a new keyboard or some other prize.

Also I rather like how the system works now. Informal meets + a few more official meets. I've probably done one real meetup (Keycon and Chicago - March/April 2013) and then did like 4-5 smaller meetups (three people or less). And I do love that we have larger meets in larger cities. Chicago was a blast.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:59:48 »
We should also include blindfolded keyboard assembly. Fastest person wins a new keyboard or some other prize.

Also I rather like how the system works now. Informal meets + a few more official meets. I've probably done one real meetup (Keycon and Chicago - March/April 2013) and then did like 4-5 smaller meetups (three people or less). And I do love that we have larger meets in larger cities. Chicago was a blast.

You could also have 'blindfolded' guess what switch etc this is.....I'm sure some people are 'good' enough to get it right!

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:01:41 »
i like the CES idea, but i have to check with vendors who DO exhibit at CES to see whether their CES teardown would actually prevent them from attending (weird, i know, but convention logistics are weird)

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:03:11 »
I just like the idea of someone holding a 700 F iron while blindfolded, trying to solder a keyboard together.

Also, WE CAN GO TO CES AND BE BOOTH BABES FOR COOLERMASTER MKAWA??
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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:04:10 »
I just like the idea of someone holding a 700 F iron while blindfolded, trying to solder a keyboard together.

Also, WE CAN GO TO CES AND BE BOOTH BABES FOR COOLERMASTER MKAWA??

I bet mkawa solders blindfolded just for fun.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:16:32 »
Also, for the purpose of a central meeting location, we should hold KeyCons at one of the geographic centers of the US.

Geographic center of Lower 48: near Lebanon, Kansas.
Geographic center of all fifty states:  northeast of Belle Forche, South Dakota
Geographic center of North America: Rugby, North Dakota (an Amtrak stop.  Doable!)
Mean center of US population:  Texas County, Missouri

I hear the Dakotas in February are just exceptional.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:19:01 »
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:25:46 »
LOL.  Another smallish club I am in has had national meetups every year since the 90s.  The convention with by-far the worst turn out was located in Topeka, Kansas.  This was done to appease the left-coasters, who always complained that the con was too far.  Ironically, it had the lowest number of West-coast members.  The conventions with the highest turn outs have been located in IL, MI, IN, and OH.

My point is that geographic centrality does not yield better turn-outs, because it is far from everybody.  Rotating it around is probably the best option.
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« Reply #67 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:31:45 »
you actually have to take not raw geographic centers (ie, simple embedding into 2-space) but warp the geometry to reflect population density. and that doesn't take into account the weird costs of travel due to tourist destinations subsidizing things etc. etc. etc. etc.



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« Reply #68 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:24:09 »
LOL.  Another smallish club I am in has had national meetups every year since the 90s.  The convention with by-far the worst turn out was located in Topeka, Kansas.  This was done to appease the left-coasters, who always complained that the con was too far.  Ironically, it had the lowest number of West-coast members.  The conventions with the highest turn outs have been located in IL, MI, IN, and OH.

My point is that geographic centrality does not yield better turn-outs, because it is far from everybody.  Rotating it around is probably the best option.
IN Keycon please.  Indianapolis is literally a perfect convention city.

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« Reply #69 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:26:46 »
If we were to do a cooler time of year, Dallas would be a decent option as well.  Plenty of places to organize a great con experience and decent after-party options as well.  But anyone not used to heat would melt if we did it this time of year

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« Reply #70 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:37:46 »
If we were to do a cooler time of year, Dallas would be a decent option as well.  Plenty of places to organize a great con experience and decent after-party options as well.  But anyone not used to heat would melt if we did it this time of year

I agree with this.  Texas is an awesome place to visit, especially in winter for those of us from the snowy regions, and I'm not an expert on the area but Dallas has to have big convention locations.  All three of the major cities in Texas would be great, and Dallas is geographically better perhaps.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:40:55 »
you actually have to take not raw geographic centers (ie, simple embedding into 2-space) but warp the geometry to reflect population density. and that doesn't take into account the weird costs of travel due to tourist destinations subsidizing things etc. etc. etc. etc.



etc.

I threw in Texas County, Missouri, for this reason.  Branson, here I come!
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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 13:38:24 »
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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 13:43:20 »
LOL.  Another smallish club I am in has had national meetups every year since the 90s.  The convention with by-far the worst turn out was located in Topeka, Kansas.  This was done to appease the left-coasters, who always complained that the con was too far.  Ironically, it had the lowest number of West-coast members.  The conventions with the highest turn outs have been located in IL, MI, IN, and OH.

My point is that geographic centrality does not yield better turn-outs, because it is far from everybody.  Rotating it around is probably the best option.
IN Keycon please.  Indianapolis is literally a perfect convention city.

MKULTRA is somewhat correct in this.  Indianapolis hosts tons of big sports events and conventions Every year.  Hotels, restuarants, entertainment, and convention space are all very compact in the downtown area.  Hotels and meals and such will be cheaper than bigger cities.

However, transport from the airport is basically taxi only, direct flights from many cities are expensive or non-existent, it's friendlier for larger gatherings, and, well, it's Indianapolis, doing its best to crawl out from underneath the shadow of Chicago.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 19:58:22 »
CES isn't open to the public.
what i am trying to suggest is to find out what events that <keyboard_vendor_you_want_to_see> will be attending and try to have a "keycon" the weekend before or after. that way the vendor can have a presence at our event without it costing much. a workable event might be a computer gaming contest or industry meeting.

it doesn't matter that CES is not open to the public. what does matter is that many keyboard manufacturers from all over the world will be in Las Vegas that week.

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:10:06 »
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lets do this

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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 
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« Reply #76 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:16:42 »
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lets do this

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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 

ONLY if after we go to lego land!

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« Reply #77 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:22:57 »
And it'll be during the summer right? RIGHT?

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« Reply #78 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 22:25:42 »
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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 07:50:19 »
Somewhere in the E.U. ??
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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 07:59:52 »
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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 
feb is definitely an out of season month for SD, but as you know, even out of season, things can be expensive there. also, it's that much more driving/flying for the norcal folks.

it could be an option though, as i have many strings to pull to get us a large awesome conf room in sd, and i know exactly which beaches we can chill on after the con.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:21:20 »
Setting a date early is key for me.  If I can get something on my calendar 4-6 months in advance, I can schedule according.  (And any "in stone" conflicts will be known that far in advance as well)

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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:23:54 »
yea, put me down for KC14!...just need to know a couple of months in advance
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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 11:59:16 »
I will be making the effort to go to the next one as well. I didn't realize what the first one was about (stupid not reading...) until it was too late.

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:49:09 »
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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 
feb is definitely an out of season month for SD, but as you know, even out of season, things can be expensive there. also, it's that much more driving/flying for the norcal folks.

it could be an option though, as i have many strings to pull to get us a large awesome conf room in sd, and i know exactly which beaches we can chill on after the con.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:04:57 »
I like the idea of rotating between east, west, and central locations.  At least until we get a sense of what works and produces good turn-out.  I don't think we should do it more often than say every 9 months.  Local meet-ups are one thing, but we want KeyCon™ to be special.  I'm also totally down with paying to get in if it means better venues and more interesting things to do and see.

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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:06:01 »
I like the idea of rotating between east, west, and central locations.  At least until we get a sense of what works and produces good turn-out.  I don't think we should do it more often than say every 9 months.  Local meet-ups are one thing, but we want KeyCon™ to be special.  I'm also totally down with paying to get in if it means better venues and more interesting things to do and see.

If we were able to pull off a big event every year, that would be quite a feat. Attempting to do two per year is overkill.

One annual conference would be easier to plan for (both for organizers and for the attendees) and easier to get vendor support if we're only hitting them up once a year. I really like the idea of rotating the location though. This year was Chicago, next year California, and then 2015 is in New York, for example.  For the conferences that I participate in for my day job, that's what they do both on the State level and the National level and it works quite well.

We should be planning at least 9 months out if we're doing a "big" conference, so to do more than one per year is a big commitment to whomever is planning it. Why? Because you'll be constantly planning as they will overlap. You'll be running the spring conference while trying to commit people to the fall conference. That's a lot to ask.

I know there is a lot of excitement over the first one and we're all eager for another (myself included), but I think meet-ups will work better between conferences, rather than attempting to do two conferences per year. Not to mention that I love how laid back and relaxed a meet-up can be. It's a whole different vibe and much more one-on-one than a full Con.

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:14:40 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)
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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:19:34 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?

That's bananas. You're describing a logistical nightmare that makes me want to run into the woods screaming.  :p


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)

If the only event that you could ever attend is in Chicago then moving locations would never work for you regardless.

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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:27:30 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?

That's bananas. You're describing a logistical nightmare that makes me want to run into the woods screaming.  :p


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)

If the only event that you could ever attend is in Chicago then moving locations would never work for you regardless.

Chicago works, but so does the WI, IL, MI, MN area...
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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:31:53 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)

From your point of view, it should be a wash.  Let me explain:

Scenario 1 - Rotate - Every 3 years you get to meetup with some seriously cool people from all across the nation.  Sprinkle in some local meetups in the off years and that means you get to hang out with local people all three years and some other great people once every three years. (and view non-locals on webcam two out of three years)

Scenario 2 - Separate Events - Every year you get to meetup at KeyCon, but it will be mostly local people because there are regional KeyCons all at the same time.  You get to view non-locals via webcam, but that's more or less your only interaction with them ever. 

So in Scenario 2 you get to attend more "KeyCon"s, but I think your overall meetup experience is worse than in Scenario 1 where you attend every three KeyCons but still meetup with locals in off years.

Just trying to make you not feel bad about it.  :)

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:34:39 »
Well I didn't go this year cause it's not so easy to time a 12h ride with a family, but I think that if I have to stay at the hotel and all, it would be much nicer if it was at a place with some touristic interest. Then I could bring my GF and stay a few days to justify all the travel.

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:37:53 »
YES, LET'S DO IT IN PLATTSBURGH. 518 REPRESENT.

Oh, and I think I'm not really helping with this discussion. I'm more of a "Have keyboards, will travel" type of guy. I do like the rotating cities thing. Keycon 2015 is in NYC etc. But that's just because I can afford and love to travel. Not everyone is in the same position I'm in.
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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:41:14 »
But that's just because I can afford and love to travel. Not everyone is ballin' out of control.
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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:26:01 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.
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« Reply #95 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 13:28:42 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 
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« Reply #96 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 13:42:32 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 

Is it the gambling/booze/hookers?

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« Reply #97 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:05:02 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 

Is it the gambling/booze/hookers?

'cuz I'm willing to skip bible camp if it is.

Lol, I did not even think of those reasons.  I never gambled during the year+ I lived in the state, just struck me as a waste of time and money.   And prostitution is such an ingrained part of the Nevada culture, I don't even think twice about it.
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« Reply #98 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 17:39:58 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 

Is it the gambling/booze/hookers?

'cuz I'm willing to skip bible camp if it is.

Lol, I did not even think of those reasons.  I never gambled during the year+ I lived in the state, just struck me as a waste of time and money.   And prostitution is such an ingrained part of the Nevada culture, I don't even think twice about it.

Dang.  I guess it's bible camp for me then.
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« Reply #100 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 03:48:21 »
Personally, San Diego is a good location for me.  I can double up with some work activities.


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« Reply #101 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 04:30:50 »
UCI is within spitting distance of SD. i definitely considered this when i was thinking about locations. worst case, you take a short commuter hop up to san jose if it ends up being in norcal (but frankly if i'm organizing it will be closer to where i live/work).

boilermaker's parents also live in the san diego area quite close to HQ, imav, so he can drive you up.

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« Reply #102 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 13:07:06 »
Can't he just punch his way there?

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« Reply #103 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 13:11:19 »
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« Reply #104 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 14:24:17 »
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« Reply #105 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 14:38:00 »
As for San Diego, that sounds okay with me.  SD in the winter is a nice trip for a guy from NYC. :cool:

Las Vegas is okay too. 

Actually I don't really care where KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'd bet that other people would like the advance notice as well.  So let's pick a place and a date for KeyCon '14 as soon as possible.
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« Reply #106 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 15:00:58 »
As for San Diego, that sounds okay with me.  SD in the winter is a nice trip for a guy from NYC. :cool:

Las Vegas is okay too. 

Actually I don't really care where KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'd bet that other people would like the advance notice as well.  So let's pick a place and a date for KeyCon '14 as soon as possible.

Agreed fully. The closer we get to any given date, the likelihood of me attending diminishes, as the possibility for that date to be scheduled for me to work increases drastically.

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« Reply #107 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 15:09:21 »
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 15:53:54 »
As for San Diego, that sounds okay with me.  SD in the winter is a nice trip for a guy from NYC. :cool:

Las Vegas is okay too. 

Actually I don't really care where KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'd bet that other people would like the advance notice as well.  So let's pick a place and a date for KeyCon '14 as soon as possible.

Anywhere in the world, huh?  Time to start planning for World KeyCon 2015.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:00:48 »
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« Reply #111 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:02:11 »
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« Reply #112 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:05:38 »
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ftfy

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As for San Diego, that sounds okay with me.  SD in the winter is a nice trip for a guy from NYC. :cool:

Las Vegas is okay too. 

Actually I don't really care where KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'd bet that other people would like the advance notice as well.  So let's pick a place and a date for KeyCon '14 as soon as possible.

Anywhere in the world, huh?  Time to start planning for World KeyCon 2015.

Dude, anywhere in the world for KeyCon '15?  That can only mean one place.  The Mecca for keyboards:  Seoul, S. Korea.  Second choice would be the Mecca for Topre lovers: Tokyo, Japan.  Third Place would be the Mecca for Larry Herzog lovers:  Columbus, WI, USA.  (why not just party at Larry's house?)
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:07:50 »
(punches hole in wall)

then checks Fire Alarm

VEGAS! VEGAS! VEGAS!

ftfy

FTFY

As for San Diego, that sounds okay with me.  SD in the winter is a nice trip for a guy from NYC. :cool:

Las Vegas is okay too. 

Actually I don't really care where KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'd bet that other people would like the advance notice as well.  So let's pick a place and a date for KeyCon '14 as soon as possible.

Anywhere in the world, huh?  Time to start planning for World KeyCon 2015.

Dude, anywhere in the world for KeyCon '15?  That can only mean one place.  The Mecca for keyboards:  Seoul, S. Korea.  Second choice would be the Mecca for Topre lovers: Tokyo, Japan.  Third Place would be the Mecca for Larry Herzog lovers:  Columbus, WI, USA.  (why not just party at Larry's house?)

WI would be nice...

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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:09:35 »
We should totaly go to iMav's
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« Reply #115 on: Tue, 27 August 2013, 21:01:14 »
I'll do Seoul, but only if the conference includes a K-Pop concert.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:24:37 »
...KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'm in the same boat. I actually spent like two weeks, with my planning starting in late June, trying to nail down dates at work so that I could go to Keycon '13. I also called in favors but the date actually worked out fine timing wise. It's not easy being a vagabond you know? I would prefer to know things far in advance but...I'll still show up barring anything crazy ^__^

And you guys are doing this all wrong. Keycon '14 or '15 should be at the real mecca of all things mechanical: Cherry HQ. Who wants to see MX switches made live? :P

Although on a more serious note....Signature Plastics visit would be really cool. Or CMStorm tour. Or WASDKeyboards. One of the big American vendors who have a storefront. Hell, another meet at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront would be incredible.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:54:45 »
...KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'm in the same boat. I actually spent like two weeks, with my planning starting in late June, trying to nail down dates at work so that I could go to Keycon '13. I also called in favors but the date actually worked out fine timing wise. It's not easy being a vagabond you know? I would prefer to know things far in advance but...I'll still show up barring anything crazy ^__^

And you guys are doing this all wrong. Keycon '14 or '15 should be at the real mecca of all things mechanical: Cherry HQ. Who wants to see MX switches made live? :P

Although on a more serious note....Signature Plastics visit would be really cool. Or CMStorm tour. Or WASDKeyboards. One of the big American vendors who have a storefront. Hell, another meet at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront would be incredible.

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« Reply #118 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:00:22 »
...KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'm in the same boat. I actually spent like two weeks, with my planning starting in late June, trying to nail down dates at work so that I could go to Keycon '13. I also called in favors but the date actually worked out fine timing wise. It's not easy being a vagabond you know? I would prefer to know things far in advance but...I'll still show up barring anything crazy ^__^

And you guys are doing this all wrong. Keycon '14 or '15 should be at the real mecca of all things mechanical: Cherry HQ. Who wants to see MX switches made live? :P

Although on a more serious note....Signature Plastics visit would be really cool. Or CMStorm tour. Or WASDKeyboards. One of the big American vendors who have a storefront. Hell, another meet at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront would be incredible.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:02:36 »
...KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'm in the same boat. I actually spent like two weeks, with my planning starting in late June, trying to nail down dates at work so that I could go to Keycon '13. I also called in favors but the date actually worked out fine timing wise. It's not easy being a vagabond you know? I would prefer to know things far in advance but...I'll still show up barring anything crazy ^__^

And you guys are doing this all wrong. Keycon '14 or '15 should be at the real mecca of all things mechanical: Cherry HQ. Who wants to see MX switches made live? :P

Although on a more serious note....Signature Plastics visit would be really cool. Or CMStorm tour. Or WASDKeyboards. One of the big American vendors who have a storefront. Hell, another meet at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront would be incredible.

I wish I could travel :(

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:03:32 »
...KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'm in the same boat. I actually spent like two weeks, with my planning starting in late June, trying to nail down dates at work so that I could go to Keycon '13. I also called in favors but the date actually worked out fine timing wise. It's not easy being a vagabond you know? I would prefer to know things far in advance but...I'll still show up barring anything crazy ^__^

And you guys are doing this all wrong. Keycon '14 or '15 should be at the real mecca of all things mechanical: Cherry HQ. Who wants to see MX switches made live? :P

Although on a more serious note....Signature Plastics visit would be really cool. Or CMStorm tour. Or WASDKeyboards. One of the big American vendors who have a storefront. Hell, another meet at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront would be incredible.

I wish I could travel :(

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« Reply #121 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:32:26 »
...KeyCon '14 is held, as long as I have enough notice to plan my work schedule around it.  The longer ahead it's planned the better.  10 or 11 months is just about enough time too.  That might seem crazy to a vagabond hippy gypsy like CAPTBadAss, to plan things 10 months in advance, but that much time to plan would make it easier for me to attend anywhere in the world.

I'm in the same boat. I actually spent like two weeks, with my planning starting in late June, trying to nail down dates at work so that I could go to Keycon '13. I also called in favors but the date actually worked out fine timing wise. It's not easy being a vagabond you know? I would prefer to know things far in advance but...I'll still show up barring anything crazy ^__^

And you guys are doing this all wrong. Keycon '14 or '15 should be at the real mecca of all things mechanical: Cherry HQ. Who wants to see MX switches made live? :P

Although on a more serious note....Signature Plastics visit would be really cool. Or CMStorm tour. Or WASDKeyboards. One of the big American vendors who have a storefront. Hell, another meet at MechanicalKeyboards.com's storefront would be incredible.

My vote would be either SP or mechanicalkeyboards.com

I would LOVE to attend a con at mk.  I missed the first mk get together and didn't get to spend enough time with Mashby.