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Offline Naweo

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Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 05:40:15 »
Now I found a thread similar to this but I do not think the questions and answers were elaborated enough.

This is my current knowledge on the matter:

1. Topre and Cherry mx red has similar bottoming out and actuation/reset points.
2. Topre is 15g lighter but has some tactility, which some say makes the light weight become subjective.

I use Keycool 84 cherry mx red with dampeners, and to me the tampeners makes the keys becomes somewhat "tactile" since after 5-6 mm travel it starts to brake because of the dampeners.

Do you think Topre 30g is a better option compared to cherry mx red if you go for ABSOLUTE the most light weight possible?

Do you think if youre a soft-touch typer (you dont really lift your fingers when you can and type within the same area of range), that topre is a better option if u want lighter weight?

How exactly does the tactility work, is it similar to dome or to a cherry keyboard?

Thank you.

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Re: Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 05:59:06 »
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Offline mauri

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Re: Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 06:11:42 »
Finding an uniform 30g topre in ansi will prove to be quite an endeavor
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Re: Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:12:16 »
Finding an uniform 30g topre in ansi will prove to be quite an endeavor

They were never manufactured as such. You would have to rip the rubber out of the Japanese layout 30g Anniversary Edition and put it into an ANSI RealForce.

Offline Naweo

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Re: Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 09:23:18 »
Do you believe that topre 45 and 55g has a strong enough release force to make fast-typing and pressing/repeating good?

I mean: the reason I prefer light weight is to be able to press faster, right? For example, if I compare red and black cherry mx switches im not sure that red switches actually alows faster typing, since if u go with blacks and just "bottom out less" than with reds, the force you press should still be equal to the force you release due to newtons laws, assumably.

This is why Im starting to think that tactile switches allows for better force release due to the "automatic bottoming out" if you will.

If you have an initial 10-40g the first 1 mm and then bottoms out with 5-10g, the release should be instant to the top. Of course double tapping might be an issue, but it allows to press the single key faster, I guess. Of course you will need the tactility to occur as late as possible, preferebly after the actuation point.

Any thoughts on which switch, be it topre og cherry, that delivers such?

Offline Naweo

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Re: Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 09:45:54 »
If you could compare any topre switch with the brown, which would be better and why?

Offline mauri

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Re: Topre 30g vs Cherry MX red v2
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 09:49:36 »
Finding an uniform 30g topre in ansi will prove to be quite an endeavor

They were never manufactured as such. You would have to rip the rubber out of the Japanese layout 30g Anniversary Edition and put it into an ANSI RealForce.

According to deskthority wiki there was.

but sure you could do that, there was someone here who bought a few 30g JIS boards from japan and modded them to ansi

And OP should at least test variable force realforce, it's pretty sweet.
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