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Offline Reckthor

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NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 22:02:30 »
Well 3 day's after getting my QFR MX Blues in the mail my brother spills lemonade on it......i cleaned it best i could but now. A week after all key's work but many of them are very stiff. So last weekend i pulled a few switches off. From what i can tell the white slider on the blue stem is not sliding down at all. any ideas on what to do? I have the idea of maybe getting some clears  but I don;t know if paying 1.75$ each from wasd is the right way to go.
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Offline PointyFox

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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 22:15:22 »
Most people on here will tell you that $1.75 is way too high and you should be paying something like $0.30 to $0.50 a switch.

If this happened to me, I'd disconnect the daughter board and wash the rest of the board in water while actuating the keys.  Then I'd use an air blower and blow as much water as I could off the board.  Then I'd stick it in the oven at a low temperature until I thought it was dry.

But I'm sure a safer method would be to desolder the switches and just clean just them.  But I'm too lazy to do that.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 22:22:38 »
I think the slider doesn't slide down is because the lemonade stick the slider and the stem together. I think you can clean the stem, slider, and the spring first.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 22:48:24 »
If you have already removed the switch, then a replcement is the best way to go.

If there are only a few that don't work, $1.74 might be the way to go.

If there are many more, then do seek a cheaper price.

If most switches are broken, depending on how much you want to pay for a nearly full set of switches and the time required to resolder all switches, you might even consider a replacement keyboard.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 22:50:39 »
Lube. Lube solves everything.
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Offline Reckthor

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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 23:40:54 »
Thanks for the advice everyone. After taking off a few switches It makes me really want to try some different switches. if you guys know anyone id really like to buy some clears.

I feel this might be the start of something i won't be able to stop. o_O
 
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 11 September 2013, 23:43:17 »
As long as it wasn't minute maid..

But you can try rinsing the stiff switches in rubbing alcohol, I feel that the sugar hardened and is preventing the switch from depressing without friction
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 00:31:10 »
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Offline Turkishrambo

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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:36:31 »
Id just buy another one and dont ever drink(water is okay) or eat at your computer.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:37:23 »
Quote from: Turkishrambo on Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:36:31
Id just buy another one and dont ever drink(water is okay) or eat at your computer.
Why?  It's fixable.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:43:17 »
Quote from: MKULTRA on Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:37:23
Quote from: Turkishrambo on Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:36:31
Id just buy another one and dont ever drink(water is okay) or eat at your computer.
Why?  It's fixable.
If its bad enough that is.. and its a cheap keyboard if u can get it on sale. Its gone for less than 40 before
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 01:47:09 »
^ He's got a point, you know.  The QFR has been seen for $40 to $50 from time to time.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 02:12:13 »
True  I could picK up another one relatively cheap but to be honest the idea of replacing all the keys sounds a bit fun.

so if anyone knows of anyone Selling some clears or greens. Id love to buy some.
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 02:12:24 »
True  I could picK up another one relatively cheap but to be honest the idea of replacing all the keys sounds a bit fun.

so if anyone knows of anyone Selling some clears or greens. Id love to buy some.
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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 02:18:21 »
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 17:54:09 »
Thanks for the link. but that's a bit much. i contacted 7 bit over at DT and looks reasonable prices. Have any of you guys ever ordered from him?
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 17:56:17 »
You probably don't need to replace them...  Look at the link I posted.................
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Re: NOO!!!! lemonade on my new QFR
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 18:00:33 »
I did check out the link and thank you for posting it. I have already started cleaning the switches. But now that i have them off id like to try different switch types. That's why i am looking for other options like may be whole new switches or just clear stems. I have found switches but i don't even know where to look for stems.

Thanks again for the help
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