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Offline yasuo

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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 22:02:37 »
Mechanical 50 million
Topre 30 million
evidence cherry often problem,but easy for changing switches if problem :))
but topre more last longer :thumb:
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 22:13:29 »
Topre has changed their rating to 50 million
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Offline keymaster

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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 22:15:16 »
I'm starting to think OP is just making troll threads.  :blank:
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Offline sth

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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 23:06:04 »
hahaha, a switch is more durable than another because you can replace it when it breaks? that sounds like... not durable at best, planned obsolescence at worst.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 23:09:31 »
I would say thorpe would deteriorate faster because of the hardening and cracking of the rubber over time. But it's a silly comparison unless you plan on using the same keyboard for 15 years.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 23:28:50 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 12 September 2013, 23:09:31
I would say thorpe would deteriorate faster because of the hardening and cracking of the rubber over time. But it's a silly comparison unless you plan on using the same keyboard for 15 years.

But.. but... the only reason most of us bought mechanical keyboards was because they were supposed to last 100+ years.   :-[

*Sells mechanical keyboard and goes back to rubber dome*
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:11:17 »
Rubber dome last < 1 year.
« Last Edit: Fri, 13 September 2013, 00:17:30 by rowdy »
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:56:08 »
A general question...

Has anyone with a Topre board had the switch wear out on them?  You rarely hear about it but there are far fewer people with them as well...
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:58:05 »
Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:56:08
A general question...

Has anyone with a Topre board had the switch wear out on them?  You rarely hear about it but there are far fewer people with them as well...

Mr. Stallman has had his hhkb for about 20 years now i believe. still working.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 04:37:24 »
Quote from: KangarooZombies on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:58:05
Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:56:08
A general question...

Has anyone with a Topre board had the switch wear out on them?  You rarely hear about it but there are far fewer people with them as well...

Mr. Stallman has had his hhkb for about 20 years now i believe. still working.

You surprise me.

I would have thought Topre was a less open standard than MX.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 04:39:06 »
Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 12 September 2013, 21:52:55
I think MX lasts longer only because it's quite easy to replace the switches. Both pcb's of Topre and MX probably have similar lifespans, but Topre is a pain to change out the rubber pads

I don't know about the Realforce keyboards, but it is much easier to access the innards of my HHKB than any Cherry board I've seen. Finding replacement parts for the Topre may be an issue though.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 05:00:42 »
Quote from: ch_123 on Fri, 13 September 2013, 04:39:06
Quote from: Meiosis on Thu, 12 September 2013, 21:52:55
I think MX lasts longer only because it's quite easy to replace the switches. Both pcb's of Topre and MX probably have similar lifespans, but Topre is a pain to change out the rubber pads

I don't know about the Realforce keyboards, but it is much easier to access the innards of my HHKB than any Cherry board I've seen. Finding replacement parts for the Topre may be an issue though.

Yeah, this.

There are how many custom MX boards around?

And have you seen one custom Topre board?

Even making Topre key chains is a challenge.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 09:55:55 »
Quote from: KangarooZombies on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:58:05
Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:56:08
A general question...

Has anyone with a Topre board had the switch wear out on them?  You rarely hear about it but there are far fewer people with them as well...

Mr. Stallman has had his hhkb for about 20 years now i believe. still working.

Yeah, but I don't think he types a lot because of his issues with RSI.
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 10:05:45 »
Quote from: KangarooZombies on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:58:05
Quote from: Polymer on Fri, 13 September 2013, 01:56:08
A general question...

Has anyone with a Topre board had the switch wear out on them?  You rarely hear about it but there are far fewer people with them as well...

Mr. Stallman has had his hhkb for about 20 years now i believe. still working.

Then it wouldn't be a Topre switch. The first Topre HHKB was introduced in 2003 (per Wikipedia).
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 12:43:10 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Thu, 12 September 2013, 07:51:28
toprah?

Reading that, I think of Oprah. Will a keyboard come out yelling "EVERYONE GETS ONE! YOU GET ONE! AND YOU GET ONE! AND YOU!"
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 02:30:45 »
OP, the Thorpe thing was a joke right?
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 03:29:30 »
I suspect it was a typo.  That is so embarrassing - making a typo on a keyboard forum ;)
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Re: What lasts longer? Cherry or Thorpe?
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 11:16:40 »
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 14 September 2013, 03:29:30
I suspect it was a typo.  That is so embarrassing - making a typo on a keyboard forum ;)

not a typo, he used the same spelling in both title and post   :p

probably just an honest mistake!!
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