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« on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:15:28 »
Any thoughts on Adobe products like PDF, Flash Player, Shockwave, etc?

I personally wish they would all die along with most every other web plugin.
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:15:53 »
WHY DO YOU HATE ADOBE
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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:16:22 »
Quote from: longweight on Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:15:53
WHY DO YOU HATE ADOBE

BECAUSE THEYRE STUPID.
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:17:39 »
WHY


WHAT IS WRONG WITH PDF FORMAT
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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:21:18 »
Flash is terrible, the world would be a better place if Bill Gates was fighting flash rather than AIDS in Africa, it's that bad.
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:21:56 »
PDF ARE AWESOME
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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 17:48:43 »
Flash and PDF have had huge security holes in them.

Flash kills less powerful computers, and is not available on many mobile devices (in order to not degrade performance and improve battery life according to the manufacturer).

But PDF is great for sharing documents across multiple platforms.
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 18:01:00 »
They should go and die in a hole. What's the point?
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 18:40:24 »
PDF is a very good document format in my opinion. Adobe PDF reader, not so good but there are alternatives! Flash/shockwave... yes it can die. We have html5 (for media playback) and webGL (for browser based games) which are both vastly superior to flash.
For other things like photoshop and illustrator, adobe is still pretty good still but doesn't have loads of competition either.
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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 06:23:30 »
I like Adobe Reader a lot, it's something about the way it renders the documents that I prefer to other PDF readers. Flash yeah it can die, when it comes to other software from Adobe I don't have much of an opinion, I've used Photoshop for a couple of uni courses but that's pretty much it.
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 07:56:47 »
Adobe is like a lot of computer stuff that I have used over the years - the core product is excellent but it is encrusted with horrible "barnacles" that infuriate users.

If they would let us strip away all the non-essential ancillary stuff and just use the product we would be happier.

I love HP printers, but I avoided them for over a decade because although the hardware was great, their software was abysmal. When the printer had a hiccup, it locked and crashed the whole computer. Fortunately, recent OS improvements have prevented that and I am an HP user again.

Adobe has pushed me very close to the limit of my tolerance, particularly when I sometimes can't view a video because my flash player happens to be more than a few hours old.
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:14:07 »
Lightroom and Photoshop have always worked pretty well for me.

I mean, Microsoft Windows, would you really want me using Aperture?  On a Mac?

We all know how that would make you feel!
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:15:27 »
Foxit reader FTW.  So much faster and less memory drain. :]
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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:49:31 »
Now, the rumours are that the next Micro$oft's CEO will be Stephen Elop. You probably know his history. He went from Adobe to Macromedia, then Macromedia was acquired by Adobe. Then he destroyed Nokia. Will the lines connect? Will Elop become M$ CEO and then Adobe will acquire M$? Will you obey your new overlords, microsoft windows?

Anyway, PDF is awful, but still better than binary MS Word documents, and I'm glad we have at least DNG in the proprietary camera market. I don't care about the rest. Well, Flash... that's still better than the Silverlight crap.
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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 18:01:41 »
Quote from: davkol on Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:49:31
he destroyed Nokia

How exactly is Nokia destroyed? They're not doing the best financially, but their products show some innovation.

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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 18:04:52 »
When did you upgrade to Windows 98?  :eek:
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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 05:26:17 »
Quote from: Thimplum on Tue, 24 September 2013, 18:01:41
Quote from: davkol on Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:49:31
he destroyed Nokia

How exactly is Nokia destroyed? They're not doing the best financially, but their products show some innovation.

Nokia was Finnish economy leader. It isn't anymore.
Nokia was one of the biggest phone manufacturer's worldwide except North America. Nowadays, they're nearly irrelevant even in third-world countries.
Nokia had huge R&D and their own software platforms... until Elopocalypse aka "burning platform". Then they became yet another 3rd-party-platform vendor—and Microsoft's patent portfolio for patent trolling recently.
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So, yeah. They hired a trojan horse instead of someone who would actually cut the bureaucracy and keep them at the top. The sad part is that this whole affair was so obvious... Elop had done it before, and so had Microsoft.
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 09:21:30 »
PDF NEEDS TO DIE

FLASH NEEDS TO DIE

SHOCKWAVE NEEDS TO DIE

JAVA NEEDS TO DIE

ADOBE NEEDS TO DI
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 09:28:43 »
Quote from: microsoft windows on Wed, 25 September 2013, 09:21:30
PDF NEEDS TO DIE

FLASH NEEDS TO DIE

SHOCKWAVE NEEDS TO DIE

JAVA NEEDS TO DIE

ADOBE NEEDS TO DI

Whoa whoa whoa Java is a vital part of the world of technology. Leave Java out of this, it's not part of Adobe...

But yeah, Adobe sucks...
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Re: ADOBE PRODUCTS
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 11:59:45 »
Java is awesome (and the JVM even more) and so is pdf, I think it's a fine format standard that works on every platform.
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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 16:09:33 »
PDF is not awesome. PDF is stupid and has no reason to exist. PDF needs to go away.
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:10:26 »
Quote from: microsoft windows on Wed, 25 September 2013, 16:09:33
PDF is not awesome. PDF is stupid and has no reason to exist. PDF needs to go away.

EVERYONE SHOULD USE MICROSOFT© OFFICE 97 FOR EVERYTHING.
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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:34:22 »
ADOBE READER IS FREE + COMES WITH McAFEE SECURITY FOR FREE.  SO MUCH WINZ0RZ.  WORKS WITH WINDOWNTS 7.  SO GOODEST SOFTWARE,  SHOULD BE CALLED AWESOMEWARE.
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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 20:17:45 »
Quote from: CommunistWitchDr on Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:10:26
Quote from: microsoft windows on Wed, 25 September 2013, 16:09:33
PDF is not awesome. PDF is stupid and has no reason to exist. PDF needs to go away.

EVERYONE SHOULD USE MICROSOFT© OFFICE 97 FOR EVERYTHING.

What about Microsoft Office version 1 or 2 under Xenix?
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:09:43 »
Quote from: eth0s on Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:34:22
ADOBE READER IS FREE + COMES WITH McAFEE SECURITY FOR FREE.  SO MUCH WINZ0RZ.  WORKS WITH WINDOWNTS 7.  SO GOODEST SOFTWARE,  SHOULD BE CALLED AWESOMEWARE.

ADOBE READER IS A PIECE OF SHlT THAT HOGS UP DISK SPACE. AND I DON'T WANT NO MCAFFEE SCANNER ANYWAYS. ALL THAT STUFF JUST TAKES UP EXTRA SYSTEM RESOURCES.

AND THEN THERE'S DOCUMENTS ON THE INTERNET THAT ARE PDF'S AND THEY ALWAYS TAKE FOREVER TO DOWNLOAD SINCE THE FILE FORMAT IS SO INEFFICIENT.
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:10:26 »
Quote from: CommunistWitchDr on Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:10:26
Quote from: microsoft windows on Wed, 25 September 2013, 16:09:33
PDF is not awesome. PDF is stupid and has no reason to exist. PDF needs to go away.

EVERYONE SHOULD USE MICROSOFT© OFFICE 97 FOR EVERYTHING.

THAT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA...BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'LL EVER HAPPEN. BUT IF PEOPLE WOULD STOP USING PDF AND FLASH, THE WORLD WOULD DEFINITELY BE A BETTER PLACE.
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 26 September 2013, 15:16:22 »
Quote from: vasouv on Wed, 25 September 2013, 11:59:45
Java is awesome (and the JVM even more)

lol

BTW what abou Microsoft's Java?
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« Reply #27 on: Sat, 28 September 2013, 08:37:16 »
PDF... opens instantly in modern browsers. I'm sure it is not as nice, using antique software.
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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 01 October 2013, 07:16:56 »
Quote from: eth0s on Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:34:22
ADOBE READER IS FREE + COMES WITH McAFEE SECURITY FOR FREE.  SO MUCH WINZ0RZ.  WORKS WITH WINDOWNTS 7.  SO GOODEST SOFTWARE,  SHOULD BE CALLED AWESOMEWARE.

IKR? Who wouldn't want a free copy of McAfee?!

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 01 October 2013, 23:03:02 »
Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 01 October 2013, 07:16:56
Quote from: eth0s on Wed, 25 September 2013, 17:34:22
ADOBE READER IS FREE + COMES WITH McAFEE SECURITY FOR FREE.  SO MUCH WINZ0RZ.  WORKS WITH WINDOWNTS 7.  SO GOODEST SOFTWARE,  SHOULD BE CALLED AWESOMEWARE.

IKR? Who wouldn't want a free copy of McAfee?!


He has cloned himself too?
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