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Model M 3$ starting bid
« on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 15:36:19 »
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-Model-M-Buckling-Spring-Clicky-Keyboard-may181992-1397661-/201006388518




Model M 3$ starting bid


Shipping too high for me, don't know how much it will end at, but could be a nice opportunity for someone if they can snipe it.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 15:37:17 »
i call snipes

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 15:55:28 »
What's a 1397661? It's not in the wiki.

Ah. OK. ClickyKeyboards says it is identical to a 1391401. And someone on GH got one that differs from a 1391401.  :-[
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 16:00:16 »
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 16:02:21 »
Ha, when it said missing 1 key, I thought it would be just the cap, not the whole key...  I don't think I need another Model M... but it's tempting to try for it anyway...

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 16:20:54 »
At least you know for sure it's not a rubber dome.  ;D

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 18 December 2013, 20:55:55 »
shipping is ludicrous.

maybe he hasn't heard that ebay charges full fees on shipping, too
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:08:05 »
**** i forgot to bid....

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:17:21 »
I won it. No bidding in the last 3 days… forgot about it, really. $23 after shipping.

You could've easily sniped it, Pacifist. My max was super low.

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:22:53 »
I ****IN FORGOT ABOUT IT

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:23:08 »
Happy that one of you got it!

Payback for the one posting my F  :thumb:
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 06:29:55 »
shipping is ludicrous.

maybe he hasn't heard that ebay charges full fees on shipping, too


$17 US shipping for a Model M is "ludicrous"? Oh how I envy the cheap American shipping. Remember when you said this thing would cost $54 to ship US to Canada?:


Now that's what I'd call ludicrous.

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 08:36:47 »

$17 US shipping for a Model M is "ludicrous"? Oh how I envy the cheap American shipping. Remember when you said this thing would cost $54 to ship US to Canada?:


What? No.

$54 is what it costs to ship a Model F keyboard from the US to Canada via Priority Mail.

That converter would go in a small box or padded envelope for $10-12 or so.

$17 is the domestic US price for a large flat rate Priority game board box. I once shipped a Model M in one and it was delivered from Georgia to Alaska in just under 72 hours, but from Atlanta to Toronto a similar board cost $54 and took almost 2 weeks. Go figure.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 09:11:18 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 09:23:24 »
Great pickup -- especially after posting it geekhack!! :D

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 09:25:02 »
I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

The small flat rate box, which is about the size of a VHS tape, goes for $20, so any handful of "small" stuff that fits in there should be OK.

Only envelopes go for "cheap" prices, and if they have "lumps" over 3/4" thick or are rigid overall, many PO clerks will price them as parcels anyway.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 09:32:35 »
Great pickup -- especially after posting it geekhack!! :D

Yes, you'd think it would go for at least triple that (or quadruple) after being posted here. There are some days when you get extremely lucky - when people are distracted and nobody is paying attention. It's not a record though. I won a 1991 Model M a few years ago (perfect condition) for just $4. I couldn't believe it. That one wasn't posted on Geekhack though.

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 10:10:26 »
I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

The small flat rate box, which is about the size of a VHS tape, goes for $20, so any handful of "small" stuff that fits in there should be OK.

Only envelopes go for "cheap" prices, and if they have "lumps" over 3/4" thick or are rigid overall, many PO clerks will price them as parcels anyway.

VHS tape?  What's that?

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 15:34:54 »

VHS tape?  What's that?


Approximately half again as long and as thick as an 8-track.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 15:51:57 »

VHS tape?  What's that?


Approximately half again as long and as thick as an 8-track.


I imagine he'll be checking Wikipedia to see what 8-track is. ;)

I remember when cars had 8-track. Those damn things always ended up chewing and spitting out tape. I also remember people would throw extra tapes in the glove compartment and the tape would always end up snagging on something and unreel.

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 16:03:49 »

VHS tape?  What's that?


Approximately half again as long and as thick as an 8-track.

Are these things available for viewing at the Smithsonian?

One of my roommates was cleaning out her stuff.  We found some 8-tracks laying around.  Some good ones, too.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 18:47:15 »
We found some 8-tracks laying around.  Some good ones, too.

8-tracks had pretty good fidelity since they were twice as wide as cassettes and spun twice as fast.

The big problem, today, is that most of them had a block of foam rubber to press the tape against the head, and the foam has deteriorated. Some had little felt pads on metal leaf springs, and they age a lot better.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 18:58:42 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
Show Image


I don't know what parts required 28$ shipping, but I ordered all of mine on ebay (all from China I think) and they cost me like 10$ total, shipping included. I just hope they will all work, but I think they should. I just don't know how they manage to get a female din plug sent to Canada from China for 1$. Sending a letter cost me like 80 cents, and only if it's inside Canada.

Also, if you are patient, you can get a keyboard (model M, even a F122 size) for 15$ shipping from some suppliers in the US (they are often from Texas). They must be big suppliers with way better shipping fees.

This one is 14$ + 34$ shipping (not that bad) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1390876-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-5-Pin-Round-Connector-/331092814449

And this one is 10$ + 33$ shipping : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1394012-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-Ethernet-RJ45-Style-Connector-/331092814134

And you can maybe get better. The prices are the actual prices, but with good sniping skills you could maybe get one for less than 50$ shipped. You can also be more patient and get a better price or a more local one. I was lucky enough to find an F for 30$ + 15$ shipping since it was local for me (and far for everyone else haha).
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:17:48 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
Show Image


I don't know what parts required 28$ shipping, but I ordered all of mine on ebay (all from China I think) and they cost me like 10$ total, shipping included. I just hope they will all work, but I think they should. I just don't know how they manage to get a female din plug sent to Canada from China for 1$. Sending a letter cost me like 80 cents, and only if it's inside Canada.

Also, if you are patient, you can get a keyboard (model M, even a F122 size) for 15$ shipping from some suppliers in the US (they are often from Texas). They must be big suppliers with way better shipping fees.

This one is 14$ + 34$ shipping (not that bad) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1390876-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-5-Pin-Round-Connector-/331092814449

And this one is 10$ + 33$ shipping : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1394012-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-Ethernet-RJ45-Style-Connector-/331092814134

And you can maybe get better. The prices are the actual prices, but with good sniping skills you could maybe get one for less than 50$ shipped. You can also be more patient and get a better price or a more local one. I was lucky enough to find an F for 30$ + 15$ shipping since it was local for me (and far for everyone else haha).

know any cheap f's?

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:55:07 »
to Canada from China for 1$.

The exchange rate is beyond understanding.

I can't send a thick letter to China for $2, but they can send me a USB cable for that price and still make a profit on the transaction.

Realistically, multiply your $ by at least 4x and maybe by 10x and that is what it is actually worth to them.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 28 December 2013, 16:11:33 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
Show Image


I don't know what parts required 28$ shipping, but I ordered all of mine on ebay (all from China I think) and they cost me like 10$ total, shipping included. I just hope they will all work, but I think they should. I just don't know how they manage to get a female din plug sent to Canada from China for 1$. Sending a letter cost me like 80 cents, and only if it's inside Canada.

Also, if you are patient, you can get a keyboard (model M, even a F122 size) for 15$ shipping from some suppliers in the US (they are often from Texas). They must be big suppliers with way better shipping fees.

This one is 14$ + 34$ shipping (not that bad) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1390876-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-5-Pin-Round-Connector-/331092814449

And this one is 10$ + 33$ shipping : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1394012-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-Ethernet-RJ45-Style-Connector-/331092814134

And you can maybe get better. The prices are the actual prices, but with good sniping skills you could maybe get one for less than 50$ shipped. You can also be more patient and get a better price or a more local one. I was lucky enough to find an F for 30$ + 15$ shipping since it was local for me (and far for everyone else haha).

know any cheap f's?

Sadly no, and if I did, I am still looking for another one since I am in love with mine (even if I need to build a converter and make the spacebar less stiff). But for my next I will be more picky on the layout, poor wallet. Still, the XT I got could be used since even if the layout is not so nice, I think it won't be that bad once I remap the keys with the converter. Only the spacebar will be odd (and maybe left shift, but less I think).

But if I find 2 F or one I don't want I will post it! In fact, there are 2 F for sale on ebay (that I saw recently), but both are XT and at least 100$, so quite more than what they are worth I think. If you still want the links, pm me.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 29 December 2013, 00:12:06 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
Show Image


I don't know what parts required 28$ shipping, but I ordered all of mine on ebay (all from China I think) and they cost me like 10$ total, shipping included. I just hope they will all work, but I think they should. I just don't know how they manage to get a female din plug sent to Canada from China for 1$. Sending a letter cost me like 80 cents, and only if it's inside Canada.

Also, if you are patient, you can get a keyboard (model M, even a F122 size) for 15$ shipping from some suppliers in the US (they are often from Texas). They must be big suppliers with way better shipping fees.

This one is 14$ + 34$ shipping (not that bad) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1390876-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-5-Pin-Round-Connector-/331092814449

And this one is 10$ + 33$ shipping : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1394012-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-Ethernet-RJ45-Style-Connector-/331092814134

And you can maybe get better. The prices are the actual prices, but with good sniping skills you could maybe get one for less than 50$ shipped. You can also be more patient and get a better price or a more local one. I was lucky enough to find an F for 30$ + 15$ shipping since it was local for me (and far for everyone else haha).

know any cheap f's?

Sadly no, and if I did, I am still looking for another one since I am in love with mine (even if I need to build a converter and make the spacebar less stiff). But for my next I will be more picky on the layout, poor wallet. Still, the XT I got could be used since even if the layout is not so nice, I think it won't be that bad once I remap the keys with the converter. Only the spacebar will be odd (and maybe left shift, but less I think).

But if I find 2 F or one I don't want I will post it! In fact, there are 2 F for sale on ebay (that I saw recently), but both are XT and at least 100$, so quite more than what they are worth I think. If you still want the links, pm me.

going to try to snag that 122 you linked, so no f for now.

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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 29 December 2013, 11:15:59 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
Show Image


I don't know what parts required 28$ shipping, but I ordered all of mine on ebay (all from China I think) and they cost me like 10$ total, shipping included. I just hope they will all work, but I think they should. I just don't know how they manage to get a female din plug sent to Canada from China for 1$. Sending a letter cost me like 80 cents, and only if it's inside Canada.

Also, if you are patient, you can get a keyboard (model M, even a F122 size) for 15$ shipping from some suppliers in the US (they are often from Texas). They must be big suppliers with way better shipping fees.

This one is 14$ + 34$ shipping (not that bad) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1390876-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-5-Pin-Round-Connector-/331092814449

And this one is 10$ + 33$ shipping : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1394012-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-Ethernet-RJ45-Style-Connector-/331092814134

And you can maybe get better. The prices are the actual prices, but with good sniping skills you could maybe get one for less than 50$ shipped. You can also be more patient and get a better price or a more local one. I was lucky enough to find an F for 30$ + 15$ shipping since it was local for me (and far for everyone else haha).

The first one is 5-pin, is that very easy to use with a modern PC? And for the second one, aren't RJ45 Model M's hard to convert to PS/2?
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 29 December 2013, 12:25:11 »
The first one is 5-pin, is that very easy to use with a modern PC? And for the second one, aren't RJ45 Model M's hard to convert to PS/2?

I think that you are going to need a Teensy for any of them.
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Re: Model M 3$ starting bid
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 29 December 2013, 14:11:41 »
Oh, whew. I thought you were talking about that box. I tried to get parts for my 5155 adapter this week and they wanted $28 to ship a tiny adapter plug to Canada.

I'd consider 2 weeks shipping from US to Canada as "unusually fast". It usually takes 3 weeks. The average from the UK is just over a week. I received something shipped from China in 4 days! The US-Canada delay us usually much worse when going through Florida. I've seen tracking showing my packages stuck there for over a week. I bet they dump all the Canada packages in the "low priority" section. It's pretty annoying paying $60 to ship a keyboard, then waiting 3 weeks for it.

I should start a whole thread about ludicrous shipping from US to Canada - starting with this classic:
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I don't know what parts required 28$ shipping, but I ordered all of mine on ebay (all from China I think) and they cost me like 10$ total, shipping included. I just hope they will all work, but I think they should. I just don't know how they manage to get a female din plug sent to Canada from China for 1$. Sending a letter cost me like 80 cents, and only if it's inside Canada.

Also, if you are patient, you can get a keyboard (model M, even a F122 size) for 15$ shipping from some suppliers in the US (they are often from Texas). They must be big suppliers with way better shipping fees.

This one is 14$ + 34$ shipping (not that bad) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1390876-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-5-Pin-Round-Connector-/331092814449

And this one is 10$ + 33$ shipping : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-1394012-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-Ethernet-RJ45-Style-Connector-/331092814134

And you can maybe get better. The prices are the actual prices, but with good sniping skills you could maybe get one for less than 50$ shipped. You can also be more patient and get a better price or a more local one. I was lucky enough to find an F for 30$ + 15$ shipping since it was local for me (and far for everyone else haha).

The first one is 5-pin, is that very easy to use with a modern PC? And for the second one, aren't RJ45 Model M's hard to convert to PS/2?

I'm warning you I put a pretty high snipe bid on the 122 key, so if you want a M go for the second one

and both require teensy