Author Topic: Lots of NIB/MINT Model M for sale (Read 18002 times)

xyzzy · « **on:** Wed, 18 February 2009, 16:03:59 »

NIB IBM Model M 1391401, USD 9.99 http://search.ebay.com/250376020921
NIB IBM Model M 1391401, USD 2.99 http://search.ebay.com/250373440328
NIB IBM Model M 1391401, USD 9.99 http://search.ebay.com/310123645849
NIB IBM Model M 1391401, USD 2.99 http://search.ebay.com/310123641924

MINT IBM Model M Industrial, Metal Logo, USD 49.95 BIN http://search.ebay.com/140302440626

NIB IBM Model M Spacesaver, USD 15.99 http://search.ebay.com/170303161989
NIB IBM Model M Spacesaver, USD 19.99 http://search.ebay.com/180329890317

itlnstln · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 18 February 2009, 16:07:38 »

I would be all over that industrial if I knew I would use it. I would buy it, look at it, and put it in storage. That would be a shame.

bigpook · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 18 February 2009, 19:51:34 »

The model m mini's are already pushing 100 dollars. Amazing.

bigpook · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 18 February 2009, 20:01:59 »

I pulled the model m mini off of the shelf and replaced the filco for awhile. I plugged the IBM straight into my pc instead of going through the KVM. Man, its got the greatest feel.
: ) All other keyboards are pretenders : )

Mercen_505 · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 11:29:19 »

Damn. That's an obscene deal on that industrial M.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 15:08:38 »

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: ) All other keyboards are pretenders : )

seconding...

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Damn. That's an obscene deal on that industrial M

Thats a very neat gray one.

The spacesavers are up over $100 now, lol.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 16:17:13 »

Quote from: webwit;22075

I bought it.

which one? the gray industrial one?

wumpyr · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 19:03:34 »

what is the obsession with space savers? are people so crammed for space? or is it just "more" cool?

ozar · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 19:10:14 »

I like the space savers because they center under a monitor better and you don't have to place the mouse so far to the right of the screen center. In addition to that, I never use the 10-key number pad so it's wasted keyboard and space.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #9 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 19:15:19 »

i went thru a spacesaver 'phase' when I had some RSI but i'm back on full size boards now, I like having the numpad which I use frequently as calculator and etc.

bigpook · « **Reply #10 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 20:18:30 »

I like that the mini's take up less space. And I don't use a numpad, so why have it.

ed_ · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 21:47:18 »

I can go days at a time without touching a mouse, since I use a tiling window manager, but having the mouse closer gives me better posture. If I used the numpad I would buy a separate one and put it on the left.

wumpyr · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 19 February 2009, 23:29:34 »

Ah k. I can see the advantage if you are right handed and frequently use said hand for the mouse. It wasn't obvious to me since I'm a leftie!

lowpoly · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 20 February 2009, 03:22:06 »

Quote from: ed_;22205

I can go days at a time without touching a mouse, since I use a tiling window manager

How does that work? How do you avoid tab, tab, tab, tab, ...

ed_ · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 20 February 2009, 03:37:16 »

Quote from: lowpoly;22217

How does that work? How do you avoid tab, tab, tab, tab, ...

I spend 90% of my time outside the web browser. When I am using the web, I am usually going to specific sites, and Firefox will find links as you type them.

andb · « **Reply #15 on:** Sun, 22 February 2009, 12:39:20 »

Quote from: lowpoly;22217

How does that work? How do you avoid tab, tab, tab, tab, ...

Tab, tab you mean pressing the tab to cycle down links on a web page?

Modern tabbed windows managers are great, CTRL + PageUp / PageDown cycles you through the tabs.

I find that if you set up hotkeys to launch your most used programs there is almost no need to use the mouse, other then browsing the web. Even then, a well designed web page can still be navigated with the keyboard via the TAB key.

I find that I sit back and use the mouse while browsing, but when actually working outside of firefox I often don't need to touch the mouse at all.

Webwit - Wow. Great buy. I wish I had been scanning ebay when that one came up!

ozar · « **Reply #16 on:** Sun, 22 February 2009, 15:33:49 »

Wow... one of the Model M Spacesavers is already over $160 when you include the shipping.

Wish I had a few like that to sell!

bigpook · « **Reply #17 on:** Sun, 22 February 2009, 16:06:27 »

Quote from: ozar;22426

Wow... one of the Model M Spacesavers is already over $160 when you include the shipping.

Wish I had a few like that to sell!

No kidding, I wish I had a garage full of them, all NIB.

ozar · « **Reply #18 on:** Sun, 22 February 2009, 16:12:03 »

Maybe it's just me, but does it seem like eBay has been flooded with Model M keyboards lately, or are there always that many available and I've simply not noticed before?

bigpook · « **Reply #19 on:** Sun, 22 February 2009, 16:15:42 »

I have been watching on and off for the past year. There always seems to be plenty of full size model M's available, which is a good thing. The model M mini's are harder to find though, especially NIB.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 24 February 2009, 12:00:20 »

Remember, a Model M or some variant thereof was included with many PC/ATs, every PS/2 (although some got Model M4s (the PS/2E,)) every PS/1 (well, a Model M2,) and some newer IBM systems.

Of course they're gonna be common.

bigpook · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 24 February 2009, 14:03:09 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22620

Remember, a Model M or some variant thereof was included with many PC/ATs, every PS/2 (although some got Model M4s (the PS/2E,)) every PS/1 (well, a Model M2,) and some newer IBM systems.

Of course they're gonna be common.

And that is a good thing overall. Except that the day will come and they will be harder to find. I expect the prices to go up then.

wheel83 · « **Reply #22 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 21:29:10 »

thats why you have to collect as many of your favorite keyboard as possible now before the rest of the world realizes how awesome clicky keyboards truly are.

wheel83 · « **Reply #23 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 22:25:49 »

2 different people told me they wouldn't sell me their m15s unless they died. man thats pretty impresive lol

zwmalone · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 22:35:56 »

Now to play the waiting game...

cchan · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 22:45:15 »

zwmalone are you kidding? it's a f---ing m13, wheels, why not off them?

bhtooefr · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 23:08:09 »

Why off someone over an M13, I can get those (in black, even) for $100 all day long.

An M15, OTOH...

You know, now, the buckling spring patents have expired... although, honestly, unless the 65g BS in the M15 really is all it's cracked up to be, if I needed a clicky ergo, I'd rather have Cherry blues.

skriefal · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 23:14:58 »

Are there any ergo keyboards with blue Cherry switches? I have two with white Alps switches, but availability of such a board with blue Cherry switches would likely convince me to add yet another keyboard to the collection...

bhtooefr · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 23:25:56 »

No, but you could convert a G80-5000 (aka ErgoPlus) to have blues. It comes with browns.

(Of course, US layout ErgoPluses are almost as expensive as M15s. But, I believe German layout ones aren't THAT bad...)

skriefal · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 25 February 2009, 23:39:16 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22848

No, but you could convert a G80-5000 (aka ErgoPlus) to have blues. It comes with browns.

(Of course, US layout ErgoPluses are almost as expensive as M15s. But, I believe German layout ones aren't THAT bad...)

Oh well. I'll stick with off-the-shelf, unmodded keyboards. Perhaps Filco or Cherry will one day answer the call for a blue Cherry ergo board. Or Topre for a Realforce ergo... 'cept that one would probably be $500.

itlnstln · « **Reply #30 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 06:38:12 »

Quote from: skriefal;22852

Or Topre for a Realforce ergo... 'cept that one would probably be $500.

I'm too lazy to search for the thread, but this exists. I can't remember the manufacturer, but there is an ergo 'board with Topre switches, and I do believe that it is in the $500 range.

bigpook · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 07:01:19 »

Quote from: zwmalone;22830

Now to play the waiting game...

: ) lol, now thats funny

bigpook · « **Reply #32 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 07:02:09 »

On another note, I just got the NIB model m mini today. I am totally psyched.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #33 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 07:41:11 »

Quote from: itlnstln;22858

I'm too lazy to search for the thread, but this exists. I can't remember the manufacturer, but there is an ergo 'board with Topre switches, and I do believe that it is in the $500 range.

I did search, and couldn't find anything... I hit Google, too...

itlnstln · « **Reply #34 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 07:45:24 »

Thread: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=1156&highlight=Topre

Direct link: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=jp&u=http://www.personal-media.co.jp/utronkb/

Chloe would be proud.

ozar · « **Reply #35 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 10:15:37 »

Quote from: webwit;22075

I bought it.

webwit, that was quite a deal on that Industrial.

I like them better than the regular model M in some ways. The coloring is strange in that photos don't really do them justice, and they look far better in person than in any photos that I've seen. The color seems to change a great deal from one photo to the other as well.

All the different terms regarding their color don't fit when actually looking at these boards... not really gray, but not really olive drab, or beige, either - the exact color is a bit hard to describe, but in person they look very nice, and the silver text on black IBM logo on some models look really cool, too.

Hope you enjoy that board.

Mercen_505 · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 11:39:23 »

I got one of the other ones. There was another silver logo that didn't look to be in very good condition so I opted for a slightly newer black logo that's in great shape. Indeed, the color is hard to describe. It's definitely not gray, but it's like olive-drab with a little tan mixed in. It has a detachable cable, and two-piece keys. It's a worthy addition to my collection, and the price was unbeatable

I'd *love* to use it at work, but I'll have to stick with my M4 until I get moved into my own office. My coworkers are very picky about noise.

ozar · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 12:12:44 »

Quote from: Mercen_505;22883

Indeed, the color is hard to describe. It's definitely not gray, but it's like olive-drab with a little tan mixed in.

Yeah, I once heard someone refer to them as "putty" colored, and sometimes that seems to describe it best. It's one of those things that you really need to see in person to get true feel and understanding for it.

cchan · « **Reply #38 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 14:25:19 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22841

Why off someone over an M13, I can get those (in black, even) for $100 all day long.

An M15, OTOH...

You know, now, the buckling spring patents have expired... although, honestly, unless the 65g BS in the M15 really is all it's cracked up to be, if I needed a clicky ergo, I'd rather have Cherry blues.

Yeah that's what I meeant, off someone over an m15.

itlnstln · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 14:35:38 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22841

Why off someone over an M13, I can get those (in black, even) for $100 all day long.

An M15, OTOH...

You know, now, the buckling spring patents have expired... although, honestly, unless the 65g BS in the M15 really is all it's cracked up to be, if I needed a clicky ergo, I'd rather have Cherry blues.

I would love a new ergo 'board with a decent layout. I love my Evolution, but the layout sucks with the page nav. keys in the middle. I could even take care of the noise a bit with a black Alps transplant. I would like an ergo 'board with black Alps or brown/blue Cherrys and styling of the Das III or MS Natural 4000 (especially the layout).

bhtooefr · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 15:53:33 »

I wonder if there's any patents on the MS layout.

Also, would you be opposed to not having the curved hump of the MS layout, just having the board halves at an angle to each other? Because I don't think a curved PCB is actually POSSIBLE, and anything else would be insane.

zwmalone · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 15:59:49 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22916

I wonder if there's any patents on the MS layout.

Also, would you be opposed to not having the curved hump of the MS layout, just having the board halves at an angle to each other? Because I don't think a curved PCB is actually POSSIBLE, and anything else would be insane.

You wouldn't even need a pcb if you did it like this

bhtooefr · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:06:32 »

Hmm.

But, I did just take a look for patents... and the only patent I could see being an issue, for a copy of the basic Microsoft ergo design, is design patent 362,432.

And because the only thing I'd be taking is the basic key layout, not the styling... I don't think it would be an issue.

Now, doing humps like what the Natural 4000 has... that would run afoul of patent 7,338,224... but it's difficult to do that cheaply with keyswitches, even (especially?) with a Maltron-like setup.

xyzzy · « **Reply #43 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:08:13 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22916

I don't think a curved PCB is actually POSSIBLE, and anything else would be insane.

The Kinesis Advantage actually uses curved PCBs. Details here: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?p=22096

zwmalone · « **Reply #44 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:11:34 »

Quote from: bhtooefr;22920

Now, doing humps like what the Natural 4000 has... that would run afoul of patent 7,338,224... but it's difficult to do that cheaply with keyswitches, even (especially?) with a Maltron-like setup.

I never said it was going to be cheap, just possible. You shouldn't expect anything less with such a niche market product as an ergo mechanical keyboard though...

bhtooefr · « **Reply #45 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:13:30 »

Oh, weird. But, those can't be cheap.

Remember, if I were to do this, I'd be competing with the (somewhat ergonomically superior) Microsoft Natural 4000 at $60.

Not that I'm into ergo keyboards or anything, but... if this could make money...

itlnstln · « **Reply #46 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:24:33 »

I like the curve, and I think it should be do-able; the Maltron and Kinesis 'boards with Cherry switches are curved.

EDIT: Completely ignore this. I didn't realize there was a whole new page of comments before I posted.

itlnstln · « **Reply #47 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:25:06 »

Simply tilted would be fine, too.

itlnstln · « **Reply #48 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:31:24 »

Now that I remember, DSI said they would make something like this for me, but I think they were looking for an order of around 10000 units, not just a couple of one-offs.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 26 February 2009, 16:55:57 »

I'll note, BTW, that the way I would do this, only one custom keycap would be needed - the spacebar. The other keycaps would be standard Cherry.

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Author Topic: Lots of NIB/MINT Model M for sale (Read 18002 times)