Poker II, It's good right?

[Bucake]

Will I really miss my insert/home/etc?

i think it mostly depends on how much you use them.
do i miss'em..? aaabsolutely not.

i guess it's just a matter of weighing out pros and cons.
awesomely small keyboard versus missing some (dedicated) keys.. well, apart from my muscle memory being weirded out, i loved my 60% from day one.
and with each day of use i get more used to the layout, which just makes me feel better and better about the purchase.

one love!

[esko997]

Will I really miss my insert/home/etc?

i think it mostly depends on how much you use them.
do i miss'em..? aaabsolutely not.

i guess it's just a matter of weighing out pros and cons.
awesomely small keyboard versus missing some (dedicated) keys.. well, apart from my muscle memory being weirded out, i loved my 60% from day one.
and with each day of use i get more used to the layout, which just makes me feel better and better about the purchase.

one love!

I use those keys a lot at work, I've just gotten so use to their functionality. Does the Poker II have a Fn layer with Insert/Home/End/etc? If so then no problem really, will just use that. As you said, might take a bit of getting used to but not really an issue I'd imagine.

[Bucake]

I use those keys a lot at work, I've just gotten so use to their functionality. Does the Poker II have a Fn layer with Insert/Home/End/etc? If so then no problem really, will just use that. As you said, might take a bit of getting used to but not really an issue I'd imagine.

yep!



i'm sure you can google more/better images.
also: this is the official manual. it shows the whole (Fn) layout.

[Bucake]

oops. double post

[ajx]

Poker II seems to have dedicated arrows on WASD, wtf?!!
Why did they change from Poker 1?
its the biggest **** i ever seen on 60 size keyboard

[spiceBar]

Poker II seems to have dedicated arrows on WASD, wtf?!!
Why did they change from Poker 1?
its the biggest **** i ever seen on 60 size keyboard

I agree with you that arrows on WASD is unpractical. However, the keyboard is programmable. You can remap the arrows where you want (almost).

Basically, you don't have to worry much about the default Fn layout. You can remap it almost completely so it better suits your needs.

[Bucake]

Basically, you don't have to worry much about the default Fn layout. You can remap it almost completely so it better suits your needs.

i didn't even know this awesome!

[Coreda]

Poker II seems to have dedicated arrows on WASD, wtf?!!
Why did they change from Poker 1?
its the biggest **** i ever seen on 60 size keyboard

I agree with you that arrows on WASD is unpractical. However, the keyboard is programmable. You can remap the arrows where you want (almost).

Basically, you don't have to worry much about the default Fn layout. You can remap it almost completely so it better suits your needs.

Not really. The Fn layer is set, you can't remap it. The Pn (Programmable) layer can be customized but it's limited to a single Pn key location on the board, so unless you want to use two hands, or use a remapping close to the bottom-right, it's not as flexible as it should be.

That said the CapsLock+WASD combo (DIP switch 1+3) is pretty good once I became used to it. I can use one hand for arrow keys while the other for a mouse. I've also mapped Pn+PL;" as a secondary arrow key array, amongst other nifty system key combos.

The Pg Up/Down/Home/etc array is not ideal, but with an app such as Autohotkey it's possible to remap the positions in software - or you could customize the Pn layer if that suits.

[spiceBar]

Poker II seems to have dedicated arrows on WASD, wtf?!!
Why did they change from Poker 1?
its the biggest **** i ever seen on 60 size keyboard

I agree with you that arrows on WASD is unpractical. However, the keyboard is programmable. You can remap the arrows where you want (almost).

Basically, you don't have to worry much about the default Fn layout. You can remap it almost completely so it better suits your needs.

Not really. The Fn layer is set, you can't remap it.

I'm sorry, you need to check your facts.

I own a Poker II and I have remapped the whole Fn layer. By this, I mean that I have remapped almost every Fn+key combinations.

I can still access the original Fn layout by pressing Fn+Pn+key (which I almost never do).

So to sum it up I have 2 Fn layers:
- a fully remapped Fn layer
- the original Fn layer accessible by Fn+Pn

I have already explained several times that you can remap the Fn layer, and how.

So please download the manual if you don't have it already and read it carefully.


 Poker 2 user's manual.pdf (1417 kB - downloaded 7645 times.)

The Pn (Programmable) layer can be customized but it's limited to a single Pn key location on the board, so unless you want to use two hands, or use a remapping close to the bottom-right, it's not as flexible as it should be.

That said the CapsLock+WASD combo (DIP switch 1+3) is pretty good once I became used to it. I can use one hand for arrow keys while the other for a mouse. I've also mapped Pn+PL;" as a secondary arrow key array, amongst other nifty system key combos.

The Pg Up/Down/Home/etc array is not ideal, but with an app such as Autohotkey it's possible to remap the positions in software - or you could customize the Pn layer if that suits.

[ajx]

Can you put it here for mapping Fn somewhere else
I think people are interested by how to switch dedicated arrows to another keys

[spiceBar]

Can you put it here for mapping Fn somewhere else
I think people are interested by how to switch dedicated arrows to another keys

I'm going to post in a dedicated thread a new layout designed especially for 60% keyboards. It allows for full one-handed navigation and has a number of other advantages like direct access to both Esc and Backquote/Tilde without using Fn. I think it will be of interest for Poker 2 users, as it can easily be programmed into the keyboard itself (nothing required on the computer side).

I have even designed, ordered and received a set of keys for this new layout, so I will be able to show both diagrams and photographs.

Unfortunately I'm very busy at this time (new baby in the house  ), otherwise I would have already posted it.

[Coreda]

I'm sorry, you need to check your facts.

I own a Poker II and I have remapped the whole Fn layer. By this, I mean that I have remapped almost every Fn+key combinations.

I can still access the original Fn layout by pressing Fn+Pn+key (which I almost never do).

So to sum it up I have 2 Fn layers:
- a fully remapped Fn layer
- the original Fn layer accessible by Fn+Pn

I have already explained several times that you can remap the Fn layer, and how.

So please download the manual if you don't have it already and read it carefully.

I must have read over the manual a few times but missed the line about Fn combinations, and likely seeing the search results for the Poker indicating it can't be done (I realize the Poker X must have been referred to).

Can't believe I missed this vital piece of information. So everything can be remapped on both layers - good to know

[spiceBar]

I'm sorry, you need to check your facts.

I own a Poker II and I have remapped the whole Fn layer. By this, I mean that I have remapped almost every Fn+key combinations.

I can still access the original Fn layout by pressing Fn+Pn+key (which I almost never do).

So to sum it up I have 2 Fn layers:
- a fully remapped Fn layer
- the original Fn layer accessible by Fn+Pn

I have already explained several times that you can remap the Fn layer, and how.

So please download the manual if you don't have it already and read it carefully.

I must have read over the manual a few times but missed the line about Fn combinations, and likely seeing the search results for the Poker indicating it can't be done (I realize the Poker X must have been referred to).

Can't believe I missed this vital piece of information. So everything can be remapped on both layers - good to know

Yes it's the toggle Pn mode that also allows the keyboard to be remapped to Dvorak for those who want to.

Personally I use the toggle Pn mode to remap the Fn layer. When you are in this mode, the standard Fn layer is still accessible by Fn+Pn+key.

One annoying bit is that the toggle Pn mode is switched off automatically when you unplug the keyboard or reprogram a key. So in these cases you need to remember to reactivate it with Fn+Shift (the right side Shift). The LED on the left side of the space bar tells you when you have activated it.

This mode also allows to swap Control and Caps Lock for those who like it this way. Or to put Backspace on Backslash, for the HHKB lovers... There are many uses.

There are some limitations, but in general the Poker 2 programming mode is quite useful.