Logitech G19

[IBI]

The best use for the screen would be for diagnostic purposes

If it's Linux then it's not going to be decent enough to actually give you an error message.

[huha]

It's a shame Logitech don't offer the screen separately. I'd consider buying a small screen with volume/media controls if the price was right (which it probably wouldn't be, but that's not the point here) just for the fun of it.

-huha

[Manyak]

It's a shame Logitech don't offer the screen separately. I'd consider buying a small screen with volume/media controls if the price was right (which it probably wouldn't be, but that's not the point here) just for the fun of it.

-huha

That would be a very, very nice thing to have. Though I don't think it would be that hard to build one - just get a small, maybe 7" monitor, then take apart a standard multimedia USB keyboard and wire some switches to the media buttons. Stick it all in a nice acrylic case and you've got yourself what you're looking for. You can even make the video go through the USB cable with one of these.

Hell, if you wanna buy all the parts I can build it for you in about a week or two.

[bigpook]

If it's Linux then it's not going to be decent enough to actually give you an error message.

: ) if its linux then it probably wouldn't have crashed in the first place : )

[huha]

7" is way too big. 2" or 3" would be okay, but not more--it's just an auxiliary display you don't really need, not a tertiary screen.

-huha

[huha]

: ) if its linux then it probably wouldn't have crashed in the first place : )

Operating Systems rarely crash (well, let's just forget about the win95 line for the sake of simplifying things, okay?)--the software does. Most of the time, software means third-party drivers, but badly written applications can and will cause operating systems to misbehave. I've had Linux throw kernel panics for no reason whatsoever as well as Windows crashing out of blue skies. Oh, and the first time I used a Mac (OS 8 if I recall correctly), it crashed horribly after a few minutes.

Given the extremely great software quality of Logitech's Windows software (keyboard driver software crashing at least once a day!), I wouldn't be too confident in this respect. But it might as well have gotten better by now, as the software incident was quite some time ago.

-huha

[Manyak]

Oh, and the first time I used a Mac (OS 8 if I recall correctly), it crashed horribly after a few minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEAGmBRC1dc&feature=PlayList&p=8B5FE92702CD09FA&index=0&playnext=1

[bigpook]

Operating Systems rarely crash (well, let's just forget about the win95 line for the sake of simplifying things, okay?)--the software does. Most of the time, software means third-party drivers, but badly written applications can and will cause operating systems to misbehave. I've had Linux throw kernel panics for no reason whatsoever as well as Windows crashing out of blue skies. Oh, and the first time I used a Mac (OS 8 if I recall correctly), it crashed horribly after a few minutes.

Given the extremely great software quality of Logitech's Windows software (keyboard driver software crashing at least once a day!), I wouldn't be too confident in this respect. But it might as well have gotten better by now, as the software incident was quite some time ago.

-huha

I had a kernel panic once, I think it was hardware that caused it. But that was like 10 years ago.
Windows crashes were way more frequent, though as of late XP has only blue screened maybe 10 times on me. Win 95 was awful.
But it has gotten better.
But the blue screen of death is something we are ALL familiar with.
That and Ctrl-Alt-Delete for the login screen.

[IBI]

Windows crashes were way more frequent, though as of late XP has only blue screened maybe 10 times on me.

I don't think I've seen an inexplicable blue-screen since the early days of Windows 2000.

[itlnstln]

My last blue screen was due to some bad memory in my rig.  Otherwise, I can't remember the last time I had a blue screen.

[Shmak]

What is the bloody point of being able to see a selection of YouTube videos WHILST PLAYING A GAME!?!

I'd really like to get a bag of whatever modern keyboard designers are using.

Not only the keyboard designers but also the game designers must be on something, because they seem to create games (cough wow, cough eq, cough, lineage2, cough cough) that are so boring that players are able to watch youtube and "play" at the same time.

Perhaps, in the future, FPS games will be more fun blindfolded since the combinations developers keep shuffling is likely to get more exciting that way. Or perhaps they will tell us that its more fun on a small screen with a dpad, so everyone will run out and by a G19 in order to play Crysis VII.

You earn points for using "whilst" in a sentence btw. Bravo.

[o2dazone]

they seem to create games (cough wow, cough eq, cough, lineage2, cough cough) that are so boring that players are able to watch youtube and "play" at the same time.

Yeah, about as bad as this

Wow does indeed have an extensive addon backend and community, and the api hooks are great...but jesus. I know where this all fits too. You're in raid, you've just cleared up to the second to last boss in the dungeon, so it's too far to run out and summon. You're waiting for two members to get to whatever dungeon it is, and you have 5 minutes to spend waiting.

This is all just begging for an Xhibit joke "Yo man I heard ya like games..."

[Rajagra]

This is all just begging for an Xhibit joke "Yo man I heard ya like games..."

You got it... http://www.theonion.com/content/video/warcraft_sequel_lets_gamers_play

[keyb_gr]

My last blue screen was due to some bad memory in my rig.  Otherwise, I can't remember the last time I had a blue screen.

I used to have 'em every few weeks or so, but it seems a bit of thermal paste on one of the processors took care of that. Sometimes the sound card drivers act up, but last time that happened the system merely slowed to snailspeed (but became unusable nonetheless). Otherwise the system has been rock solid.
@work you could have caught me cursing a cheapo Asrock board a few times, as the darn thing needs to warm up a few minutes before the electrolytics can take the load jumps with bus disconnect on (and waking up from hibernation usually is too fast).

[Shmak]

@work you could have caught me cursing a cheapo Asrock board a few times, as the darn thing needs to warm up a few minutes before the electrolytics can take the load jumps with bus disconnect on (and waking up from hibernation usually is too fast).

I saw that model on newegg, but avoided it due to the copious vacuum tubes used throughout the design.

[itlnstln]

I used to have 'em every few weeks or so, but it seems a bit of thermal paste on one of the processors took care of that. Sometimes the sound card drivers act up, but last time that happened the system merely slowed to snailspeed (but became unusable nonetheless). Otherwise the system has been rock solid.
@work you could have caught me cursing a cheapo Asrock board a few times, as the darn thing needs to warm up a few minutes before the electrolytics can take the load jumps with bus disconnect on (and waking up from hibernation usually is too fast).

I saw that model on newegg, but avoided it due to the copious vacuum tubes used throughout the design.

Is this your computer (see attached)?

[bhtooefr]

I saw that model on newegg, but avoided it due to the copious vacuum tubes used throughout the design.

That's AOpen, not ASRock: http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

[Hak Foo]

I always liked the lower-tier manufacturers-- ECS and ASRock-- just because of their "we'll try anything once" mindset.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1829

My old Socket 939 rig had an ASRock board-- they were the only ones to use the ULI 1695 chipset to produce two full x16 slots (which was torpedoed by nVidia being jerks about SLI compatibility), and they offered a card which let you install a Socket AM2 processor on the same board (but it won't take many of the later processors)

OTOH, I like Gigabyte gear for their "we're fixated on durability" mindset, in spite of the fact a board rarely lasts two years in my PC.

[itlnstln]

I always liked the lower-tier manufacturers-- ECS and ASRock-- just because of their "we'll try anything once" mindset.
 
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1829
 
My old Socket 939 rig had an ASRock board-- they were the only ones to use the ULI 1695 chipset to produce two full x16 slots (which was torpedoed by nVidia being jerks about SLI compatibility), and they offered a card which let you install a Socket AM2 processor on the same board (but it won't take many of the later processors)
 
OTOH, I like Gigabyte gear for their "we're fixated on durability" mindset, in spite of the fact a board rarely lasts two years in my PC.

I use the same ASRock 'board on my home rig.
 
My rig at home is so old.  I don't really use it, anyway.

[bhtooefr]

Want to know what my newest desktop motherboard is?



Except Dell left off the on-board sound and ethernet.

(Yes, that's a Socket 370 board with an i810E chipset. :lol:)

I've got a second one for spares, but want to know what my next newest board is?



Mine would've been made circa 1997-1998, but that's a 1994 design with some updates made in 1995-1996 or so. No, that slot in the corner isn't PCI, it's a proprietary connector for a proprietary expansion backplane. (The slots on the left are the CPU sockets, it can take two CPUs (in normal use, that's one ARM, one 486. The slot in the middle is a proprietary network (ethernet or Acorn-specific "econet") slot.

Here's the sad part... the CPU on that thing (in my case, a 233 MHz StrongARM) is likely slower than the CPU in the Logitech G19. What has this world come to?