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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 18:57:50 »
Where is the picture of Hoffman taking a selfie of you wearing the Keycon shirt?
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #101 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:46:18 »
All these anonymous geeks.

Get a group photo and put some names on it.

Those of us who couldn't make it would love to know who is who.
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:58:39 »
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Now we on the GH spy

What is so special about that monitor? Saw it on the feed too and people seemed fascinated, please explain.

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:01:27 »
Sorry I couldn't finish up those keypullers.  Had some real life issues that sucked up a bunch of time.  What did you guys think of the prototype.
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #104 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:13:44 »


Drop top foreign with the horse in it
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« Reply #105 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:14:53 »
^^ JD rockin the Pixar cap, nice!

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« Reply #106 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:21:46 »
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Now we on the GH spy

What is so special about that monitor? Saw it on the feed too and people seemed fascinated, please explain.

It's not a monitor--it's an actual terminal, not an emulated one.

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« Reply #107 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:32:19 »
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Now we on the GH spy

What is so special about that monitor? Saw it on the feed too and people seemed fascinated, please explain.

It's not a monitor--it's an actual terminal, not an emulated one.

I think they were using it as a SSH terminal, could be wrong..

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #108 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:37:09 »
It is a vt220 terminal that is supposed to be hooked up to a server or mainframe. Jwaz has it hooked to an rpi running some flavor of Linux called lynx
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« Reply #109 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:47:09 »
Whoaaaa a VT220 terminal! So jealous. Geek retro lvl 99.

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« Reply #110 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 20:59:07 »
It is a vt220 terminal that is supposed to be hooked up to a server or mainframe. Jwaz has it hooked to an rpi running some flavor of Linux called lynx

I think lynx is a browser
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #111 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:09:50 »
It is a vt220 terminal that is supposed to be hooked up to a server or mainframe. Jwaz has it hooked to an rpi running some flavor of Linux called lynx

I think lynx is a browser

Lynx is a text-based web browser. I've got it running on my mint box for when I want to impress non-nerds.

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #112 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:23:57 »
Yeah, jwaz's VT220 is connected to a RPi running Raspbian. Lynx browser for connecting to GH. :)
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #113 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:30:01 »
Novatouch is here. No one is allowed to take pictures
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Can any of you explain why?  Coolermaster is treating the Novatouch like the bastard of the product line.

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #114 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:48:10 »
Novatouch is here. No one is allowed to take pictures
For real... das stoopid

Can any of you explain why?  Coolermaster is treating the Novatouch like the bastard of the product line.

Better hype if it's secret

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #115 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:52:57 »
Novatouch is here. No one is allowed to take pictures
For real... das stoopid

Can any of you explain why?  Coolermaster is treating the Novatouch like the bastard of the product line.

One reason I heard is that the prototype we were shown is not final yet.

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« Reply #116 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:53:12 »
Yeah-- it's funny to see so much "embargo" and "NDA" stuff on this.

It's a keyboard.

It uses a known technology.  This is not a market like GPUs, where a week earlier knowledge will allow your aggressive competitors to **** their entire pricing and product offerings to counter you.  Your biggest threat is a company named after a rubber bath toy.

Especially for the mainstream people who are going to outbuy us fifty-to-one on any keyboard product (see: Razer still in business), there's nothing that could possibly be revealed that would be particularly exciting.

Unless there's some terrible secret.  "We hired Kailh to manufacture Toprealike switches, since they did such a great job on MXalike!"  "French Canadian AZERTY is the only layout choice".  "It's actually a real-life Deceipticon, and our world is just a Michael Bay movie"
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 22:23:31 »
Actually the CM rep was saying he didn't even know why they couldn't take pictures but the management said no pics
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« Reply #118 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 22:26:00 »
Actually the CM rep was saying he didn't even know why they couldn't take pictures but the management said no pics

Can you guys share thoughts on it or is it hush hush?

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #119 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 22:42:16 »
It was comparable to the HiPro that was sitting next to it.  I didn't play around with it too much but it was quite nice.

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #120 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 22:59:04 »
Baseless conspiracy theories:

1. Coolermaster is discontinuing most of the Cherry MX products and are doing the resellers a solid by letting them deplete their inventory / and or letting existing contracts expire.

2. Someone discovered either a bug or qc issue with the first batch of boards and are now in lock down mode getting them all repaired/updated.  Unlike some very noticeable issues on the other QFR boards (see Newegg/Amazon reviews for boards either DOA or dead weeks later) they must get this premium product right the first time for such an expensive board.

3. Some sort of loop hole in EK's contracts with Leopold that prevent taking pictures/etc for some reason even if only temporarily.

Given such suspicious behavior I do think I'll take a wait and see attitude of what others say of the mass produced version before deciding to buy.
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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #121 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:05:35 »
The topre corporation is much larger than its keyboard niche. They could possibly have an influence on keep in it hush

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #122 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:06:18 »
1. Coolermaster is discontinuing most of the Cherry MX products and are doing the resellers a solid by letting them deplete their inventory / and or letting existing contracts expire.

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #123 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:12:13 »
The topre corporation is much larger than its keyboard niche. They could possibly have an influence on keep in it hush

One does not simply show a Cherry Stem on a Topre switch and go quietly into the night.

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #124 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:17:31 »
About the novatouch, I talked to the guy about it for a bit. Here's the reason.

It's a very new product for them. It is _not_ based on "known" technology. It's also not just a topre keyboard with MX compatible stems. There's some very new and very exciting engineering in there, especially with the stabilizers. Because of this, it's not a finished thing: there's likely more things to change and finalize before they take it to production.

With other products like a filco, or the QFR, it's just a board from an OEM. You just call them, up, talk to them, give them you specs and changes from teh base model and wait for shipments. It's obviously a lot more complicated than that, but it's relatively easy to deal with an OEM like that. Dealing with a japanese company that wants to branch out a little is a new experience for them both, and a lot of relationships have to be set up.

So why does this mean we can't take pictures? it hurts the final product, especially if it's noticeably different. People start to compare the two, people see two versions and get confused about it. It's just a bad idea all 'round. Ideally, no pictures of it should exist at all, aside from some carefully controllerd teaser photos.

The other reason is that this is an entirely new sort of product for them. Until now, they had been targeting the "decent quality and excellent price" sort of market, where it's not 100% top tier, but it's a few steps back from that at a much lower price. The Novatouch is a radical departure from that, as it's a top-tier product, or at least they are aiming it to a top-tier market.

Finally, as a top-of-the-line product, they have to spend a lot of time tweaking it to ensure that it is actually "that" good. That's why the development is taking so long. they are spending a lot of time, effort, and money ensuring that this is indeed as good as they want and especially will also cover as much of the market as possible.

Now keep in mind a lot of this is mainly speculation on my part. I did talk to the guy, and feel like I got a good idea as to what's up. I just think a lot of people are misunderstanding this and especially are underestimating what's going on here.

one thing to note: topre caps will NOT fit on it by design. There's a nub on the slider preventing them. However said nub would be really easy to just shave off....

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #125 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:23:53 »
Carter originally stated Q2 as the release.  With this new info is a release in 2014 even realistic?

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Re: Captain BadAss' Keycon 2014 Thread
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:35:24 »
Carter originally stated Q2 as the release.  With this new info is a release in 2014 even realistic?

They said that if the current changes are the final ones it can be out as early as next month, but there may be other updates and it'll add on more time.

keep in mind that that's a 100% best case / fastest scenario. That said, I would expect it to be out in the next few months.

Also keep in mind it has no LEDs for capslock or scrolllock.

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« Reply #127 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:55:52 »

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« Reply #128 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 00:12:26 »




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« Reply #130 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 00:16:11 »
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« Reply #132 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 00:43:00 »
Had so much fun today. See you guys there tomorrow!

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« Reply #134 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 00:46:35 »
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« Reply #136 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 01:22:46 »
Oh man, it looks like there is fun to be had by all.  Thanks for posting all the pics so that we can live vicariously though them. 
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« Reply #137 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 01:42:23 »
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« Reply #138 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 01:43:00 »
Your biggest threat is a company named after a rubber bath toy.

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« Reply #140 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 08:40:50 »
Actually the CM rep was saying he didn't even know why they couldn't take pictures but the management said no pics

In my view, a pic or two would only INCREASE the hype for the keyboard.
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« Reply #141 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 08:44:39 »
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« Reply #142 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 08:53:29 »
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« Reply #143 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 09:16:32 »
Actually the CM rep was saying he didn't even know why they couldn't take pictures but the management said no pics

In my view, a pic or two would only INCREASE the hype for the keyboard.

I agree but on the other side of the marketing scale---one would want to tread lightly when preparing for a launch such as this.

A delayed launch is much better that immaturely releasing a flawed product IMO--especially in this case when only the niche keyboard communities are generally aware of it.

CM and Topre realistically have one good shot at this. For Topre, the money lost in R & D I reckon is a drop in the bucket. The bigger thorn in the side will be the the negative press potentionally recieved .  Topre is associated with excellence. Can't mar the Image!!  [Typeheaven wut]

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« Reply #144 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:09:31 »
Actually the CM rep was saying he didn't even know why they couldn't take pictures but the management said no pics

In my view, a pic or two would only INCREASE the hype for the keyboard.

I agree but on the other side of the marketing scale---one would want to tread lightly when preparing for a launch such as this.

A delayed launch is much better that immaturely releasing a flawed product IMO--especially in this case when only the niche keyboard communities are generally aware of it.



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« Reply #145 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:41:12 »
Just to clarify why no pics are allowed is because we are treating this as our baby and we want to be as careful as possible. This is a global launch (CM is pretty big) unlike you've seen from our competitors in the premium keyboard segment. A lot of our overseas teams would like to keep everything synchronized.

Also we are not just targetting the mechanical keyboard enthusiast, but attempting to bring keyboard enthusiasm to the mass market. We want to grow this community and the appreciation for better technology.

Most of you have seen pictures from CES/Computex. The minor changes we're doing to final are going under final batch of testing. It's also the reason why we didn't show final packaging ;)

Also, why should you get to see the latest pics if you didn't go to KeyCon?
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« Reply #146 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 10:58:56 »

Just to clarify why no pics are allowed is because we are treating this as our baby and we want to be as careful as possible. This is a global launch (CM is pretty big) unlike you've seen from our competitors in the premium keyboard segment. A lot of our overseas teams would like to keep everything synchronized.

Also we are not just targetting the mechanical keyboard enthusiast, but attempting to bring keyboard enthusiasm to the mass market. We want to grow this community and the appreciation for better technology.

Most of you have seen pictures from CES/Computex. The minor changes we're doing to final are going under final batch of testing. It's also the reason why we didn't show final packaging ;)

Also, why should you get to see the latest pics if you didn't go to KeyCon?
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« Reply #147 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 12:18:19 »
I second the recommendation for group photo with names! Would be good to put names to faces of everyone that was there.

Looks like a lot of fun. Wish I could have gone.
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« Reply #148 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 12:53:11 »
thanks for doing this Cpt! I really wish I could have attended this but it just wasn't in the cards. I hope you're all having an excellent time!


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« Reply #149 on: Sun, 13 July 2014, 13:25:01 »
Just to clarify why no pics are allowed is because we are treating this as our baby and we want to be as careful as possible. This is a global launch (CM is pretty big) unlike you've seen from our competitors in the premium keyboard segment. A lot of our overseas teams would like to keep everything synchronized.

Also we are not just targetting the mechanical keyboard enthusiast, but attempting to bring keyboard enthusiasm to the mass market. We want to grow this community and the appreciation for better technology.

Most of you have seen pictures from CES/Computex. The minor changes we're doing to final are going under final batch of testing. It's also the reason why we didn't show final packaging ;)

Also, why should you get to see the latest pics if you didn't go to KeyCon?
Pfft.... gotta have benefits to showing up.


Good luck in bringing keyboard enthusiasm to the mass market.  That is a tall order.
Wish I had some gif or quote for this space, but I got nothing