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Re: The Bike Thread!
« Reply #600 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 12:21:21 »
Put these on my bike last month. My first proper pair of wheels and tires. HED Belgium wheelset with White Industries T11 hubs and 25 mm Continental go fast tires.

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« Reply #601 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 12:44:37 »
@suicidal_orange-

I lost track of this thread a bit but checked in again this morning because I do in fact have an update.

First off, congratulations on your purchase. I just looked the model up online. That's a good looking bike. Did you get the black or white/green one? That certainly seems to tick all of the boxes you had. Your primary use case is so specific that it kind of fell in the cracks between 2-3 industry categories. XC? Cyclocross? Gravel? Personally I think you made the right choice with a gravel bike.

I wouldn't exactly call 700cx35 skinny, but perhaps you can fit some bigger tires? I was just poking around online and saw a picture of a Rove AL with 45mm knobby-ish tires on it. It's super cool that the bike can take tires that big! The whole "gravel tire" market seems to have exploded such that I can't keep up. The primary design goal seems to be something like, a smoother strip down the middle for pavement riding, but just enough knobs around the sides to get purchase in light mud and various sizes of gravel. Designs to accomplish these goals are all over the map so it's kind of fun looking at them all, though impossible to tell which work best. Perhaps this sort of tire would suit your primary trail a bit better?

As for my bike, I just took delivery of it yesterday afternoon. I was pretty nervous spending that much on something "bespoke" or semi-bespoke anyway, but the first ride confirmed that we got the sizing exactly right. I just took it out again this morning and couldn't be happier, though I am going to make 2 changes- the seatpost is just an old velo orange extra-setback post I had sitting around. I'm going to swap that for a nitto post with more normal setback. I suspected I'd want to do that but I held off until I could actually ride the bike and confirm. The other change is that I have a pair of time clipless pedals that I'm going to use on this bike most of the time. I was trying to resist the clipless, but it just doesn't make any sense. The shiny MKS pedals with the silky japanese bearings will likely move to my commuter, though when I go camping with this bike I'll likely swap them back.

There's a gallery of finished photos of the bike here:

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Just about exactly 1 year until Paris-Brest-Paris 2019. I better get training!

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« Reply #602 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 19:13:09 »
That was good timing, the green looks great for hiding in the woods though probably not with those tyres :))  Paris to Brest and back is a bit of a trek but would make good use of all those bag mounts, good luck with the training!

I got the black Rove AL and tyre clearance was a consideration, 35s may not be skinny to a road biker but the only bikes I've owned are mountain bikes and they're 50+.  Doesn't help that they're practically slick too.  The problem with tyres is they have to share the space with the mudguards, the only combination I've read of as working are 700x40 WTB nano tyres (which seem to be recently discontinued) with PDW full metal fenders (which are not readily available in the UK)  I thought I'd have a month or so to research before it got wet but it rained a lot yesterday so I had to drive today.  Now debating whether to buy mudguards so I can measure the available space (though I still won't be able to go anywhere safely) or get some tyres so I can get somewhere dirty then find/modify some mudguards to fit around them.  But as you say there are so many tyres it's hard to know where to start especially when size varies with rim width and manufacturers lie, and not consistently at that.

Also considering getting some slightly narrower handlebars as, surprisingly, I spend most of my time on the drops and none on the hoods which just feel weird.  Not sure I'm doing it right but it looks like my thumbs are an extension my arm with my fingers sticking out sideways which is an ergo nightmare.  Might help if I settled on a saddle position so I could properly adjust the bars first though...

... My first proper pair of wheels and tires ...

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Re: The Bike Thread!
« Reply #603 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 21:06:10 »
I really like those neutral colors for some reason. It's like the colors say "this bike can go anywhere".
   

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« Reply #604 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 22:48:05 »
Just a piece of friendly advice about the fenders/mudguards- They're a ***** to install. It's worth paying the guy at the shop you buy them from to do it. There are a lot of tricks to getting them straight so that they don't rub.
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« Reply #605 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 03:12:56 »
Really?  I thought the people complaining in the reviews were all incompetent and as usual 95% of buyers didn't have problems so didn't write anything.  I'll be lucky to find the ones I want at all let alone in a local shop :(

Am I crazy for considering cutting a wideguard around restrictive parts (seatstays/forks)?  An adapted wider guard would allow more clearance and as they're supposed to stay put a bit of sugru to hide the possibly imperfect cuts and prevent them rubbing the frame should work perfectly...
                               
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« Reply #606 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 04:49:01 »
I thought the people complaining in the reviews were all incompetent and as usual 95% of buyers didn't have problems so didn't write anything.
Correct. Though messing with the glorious feat of German engineering that is SKS will make you swear more than usual.
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« Reply #607 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 06:52:48 »
So more "95% of people suffered in silence but got the job done" - fair enough :))

Turns out there's a pretty big range of tyres and mudguards available in a 'local' bike shop in the town nearest to work so, weather permitting, I will be calling in there tomorrow.
                               
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« Reply #608 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 07:26:30 »
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« Reply #609 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 07:47:34 »
So more "95% of people suffered in silence but got the job done" - fair enough :))

Turns out there's a pretty big range of tyres and mudguards available in a 'local' bike shop in the town nearest to work so, weather permitting, I will be calling in there tomorrow.

You could always buy online and have the shop install them for you if your shop doesn't have what you want.
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Re: The Bike Thread!
« Reply #610 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 08:33:43 »
You could always buy online and have the shop install them for you if your shop doesn't have what you want.

True but depending on the shop they might not like installing parts they didn't sell you.
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« Reply #611 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 11:25:25 »
Regarding the mudguards- some brands are obviously easier than others to install, but a lot of them require you to drill a hole for the crown or the stays, and you'd better get that in the right place on your first shot cuz there's no un-drilling it.

Another thing that can happen if installed incorrectly is that the metal ends up under tension near the fasteners and it will crack over time.

Plastic ones are a bit more forgiving but they don't work as well and aren't as durable imho. They tend not to provide as much coverage and don't mount as solidly.

The other thing that I like is a flexible mudflap attached to the bottom of the fender. This may not be as practical offroad as it could get hung up on stuff, but riding on tarmac it keeps the road spray coming off the bottom of your tire onto your shoes. I also have a mudflap on my rear wheel, but that's not for me its for anybody behind me.

It rains about 9mo a year where I live, so it pays to be serious about rain gear. Another thing I'm a fan of is instead of a rain jacket I primarily use a rain cape when commuting.
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« Reply #612 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 15:55:49 »
wew, didn't know the existence of this thread  :cool:

I saw some of the bike related posts on your instagram. Where'd you go to get those carbon wheels produced? Sounds like a cool project
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Re: The Bike Thread!
« Reply #613 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 18:48:46 »
You could always buy online and have the shop install them for you if your shop doesn't have what you want.

I could, but I want ones that fit with the biggest clearance possible so by far the best option is having a range available in a shop.  It's not rained yet so plan's looking good...

Regarding the mudguards- some brands are obviously easier than others to install, but a lot of them require you to drill a hole for the crown or the stays, and you'd better get that in the right place on your first shot cuz there's no un-drilling it.

Another thing that can happen if installed incorrectly is that the metal ends up under tension near the fasteners and it will crack over time.

Plastic ones are a bit more forgiving but they don't work as well and aren't as durable imho. They tend not to provide as much coverage and don't mount as solidly.

The other thing that I like is a flexible mudflap attached to the bottom of the fender. This may not be as practical offroad as it could get hung up on stuff, but riding on tarmac it keeps the road spray coming off the bottom of your tire onto your shoes. I also have a mudflap on my rear wheel, but that's not for me its for anybody behind me.

It rains about 9mo a year where I live, so it pays to be serious about rain gear. Another thing I'm a fan of is instead of a rain jacket I primarily use a rain cape when commuting.

Thankfully I'm saved from drilling as there are already holes for mudguards and front/rear racks should I ever want them.  Most of the metal guards look shiny which is unfortunate, hopefully I'm wrong.  There's something reassuring about metal though as with the pedals I seem to be going for looks over functionality :-[

That's a lot of rain!  I first saw a cape (online) today, looks weird and not sure where the front light goes but surely cooler than wearing a jacket and smaller to stuff in a bag so a tempting idea.
                               
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« Reply #614 on: Sat, 18 August 2018, 09:32:28 »
What u guyz buy for Wind Noise..

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« Reply #615 on: Sat, 18 August 2018, 11:41:18 »
Earphones that are flat in your ear work nicely, like my old Tzar 90 which I use with Comply foam tips.  Note - most of my riding is deliberately not on the road to allow for this, as a responsible adult I cannot recommend them for in town use though I don't take them out...



I went to the bike shop and was disappointed - it's an online shop with basically a collection desk so couldn't see lots of mudguards.  The guy selling them struggled to get past sheeple mentality ("we sell most of these so they must be best") but when I refused the standard shiny SKS ones I was supposed to want he got out a tape measure and actually looked at the bike and I came away with some SKS Blumels 700x53 in matt black which are as wide as my stays could accomodate.

After waiting for them to be delivered I spent two hours in the garden getting very annoyed and came away with just the fork mount attached - the bolt wasn't long enough to mount on the front or back so I had to play with polymorph and make spacers to mount it in the middle.  Another hour at midnight and I had the front supports on and started looking at the back only to discover the bolts wouldn't screw in so I went to bed.  After a trip out to buy a "tap and die set" it was only another 1.5 hours before I got the back one mounted then another fun half hour trying to dremmel off the support ends without melting the guards.

Overall I think billm was right - next time I'd rather pay someone $100 than go through that faff, still not sure they're level!

Currently they look stupid as I can get any finger in between the current tyres and the mudguards, but that bodes well for fitting fatter tyres :thumb:
                               
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« Reply #616 on: Thu, 23 August 2018, 17:18:42 »
If you plan to do any useful semi-off-road riding on them you will want at least 2cm of room on top of the tyre. Anything more fitting is just Americans trying to fit a Randonneur fender as tightly on a tire as possible.
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« Reply #617 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 01:46:33 »
Put these on my bike last month. My first proper pair of wheels and tires. HED Belgium wheelset with White Industries T11 hubs and 25 mm Continental go fast tires.

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GP 4000s are sweet, using 28s right now.

Might switch to some skin walls sometime just for the classic look tho :p

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« Reply #618 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 13:28:26 »
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Congratulations on getting your mudguards installed. @JaccoW is right, the more space between the tire and guard the better. You can fit bigger tires, it helps keep debris from getting wedged between the tire and fender, and most importantly not everything is going to stay straight and true when you've ridden the bike all winter. There's nothing quite like hitting a pothole then trying to diagnose a faint rubbing noise for the rest of your ride.
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Re: The Bike Thread!
« Reply #619 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 18:43:07 »
Put these on my bike last month. My first proper pair of wheels and tires. HED Belgium wheelset with White Industries T11 hubs and 25 mm Continental go fast tires.

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GP 4000s are sweet, using 28s right now.

Might switch to some skin walls sometime just for the classic look tho :p

What's funny is that these rims are wider than most so my 25mm tires look like 28mm tires when compared my friends bike. I've taken this setup off road on hard packed gravel trails and even rode though lots of glass on city sidewalks and I've had good luck so far with these tires. I was also considering the GP 4 Seasons and Gravel Kings for extra puncture resistance.

I think the S Works Turbo Cotton might be a sweet tire for that classic look.
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« Reply #620 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 19:03:33 »
I just got a second set of wheels (HED Jet 6's) but this time I picked them up used as they are not cheap. I wanted to see if having an aero advantage would be noticeable. Unfortunately I will be waiting a while to put them through their paces due to an injury  :'(

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« Reply #621 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 13:49:42 »
I think the S Works Turbo Cotton might be a sweet tire for that classic look.

Those look good, the only other ones I could find were the Vittoria Corsa G+ but I hear those don't last too long.

I just got a second set of wheels (HED Jet 6's) but this time I picked them up used as they are not cheap. I wanted to see if having an aero advantage would be noticeable. Unfortunately I will be waiting a while to put them through their paces due to an injury  :'(

I noticed a difference when I use my Mavic Pro Carbons over my DT Swiss 1800s, I was getting around quicker but it could of just been because they make the cool wooshing sound so I'd go faster :p

Those are much deeper than my wheels so I'm sure you will feel a difference in speed, I was definitely able to feel the effects sidewinds have when you use deeper wheels though.