[IC] DEEP SPACE - Now a GB (& Keycap Giveaway!)

[Booper]

I have no problem with the prices of the mainstream kits. Only problem I see is the image for the blanks you listed 2.25u twice which I assume the very top one is supposed to be 2.75.

Good catch! Thank you

Is it too late to include a 1.25u fn in the base mod sets?

Another one? I have one in there already, I need 2?

What happened to the HHKB layout keys? Specifically the 1.75u control, the 1.5u backspace, and the 1u "\|" key?

Are those 3 keys not going to make it in anymore? You had it in a previous mock up but took it out of the last two iterations.

Oops! They are in the adapter kit which I forgot to add, but I fixed OP now!

[Skuloth]

Is it too late to include a 1.25u fn in the base mod sets?

Another one? I have one in there already, I need 2?

My bad, I didn't look closely enough and assumed since there were no extra keys the one there was a menu key not fn. Ignore me

[Skuloth]

Also I think super meta and hyper are labeled inaccurately. Super is more or less the win key, and I'm not entirely sure how the other two map to alt and ctrl since iirc they were distinct keys in addition to ctrl and alt on older keyboards.

[Booper]

Is it too late to include a 1.25u fn in the base mod sets?

Another one? I have one in there already, I need 2?

My bad, I didn't look closely enough and assumed since there were no extra keys the one there was a menu key not fn. Ignore me

Ha, yea, I started to add an extra and figured I could just do it this way? Keyboards are all so different, I'm not sure if there is a standard on that. 

Also I think super meta and hyper are labeled inaccurately. Super is more or less the win key, and I'm not entirely sure how the other two map to alt and ctrl since iirc they were distinct keys in addition to ctrl and alt on older keyboards.

As someone using a poker on a Mac, I have a poor frame of reference about ctrl, alt, win, command, menu.... I figured with the "super, hyper, meta" at least they are the same size so can be swapped around? But I did go back and fix it! Thanks

[Skuloth]

Doesn't hurt as much on the full size kits. For the JD40 is makes a difference tho.

However, I'm still on the switch to ctrl alt win train

[tyvar1]

Will spend around 86$ on this GB!
JD40 and planetary kit.
Really looking forward for this GB to start!

[kebby]

I'm happy that the Planck exists since it makes it a bit easier to get caps for KBT Pure Pro... Only the spacebar is an issue that it doesn't help with (for ISO).

What size spacebar do you need!? I updated OP with prices and some adjustments so check it out and let me know if I need to add a spacebar size

It's 4.5x and Signature Plastics has one only for the SA family apparently. I guess it might be possible to include even if it's a bit different... I'm sure any Pure Pro owner would be happy to get some space bar options.

Anyone know how a SA spacebar would look with DCS, I imagine it would be tall compared to the other keys but it with such a unique key I don't think it would matter so much? The ISO enter I guess already will be from DCS because DSA does not have it.

Also I think super meta and hyper are labeled inaccurately. Super is more or less the win key, and I'm not entirely sure how the other two map to alt and ctrl since iirc they were distinct keys in addition to ctrl and alt on older keyboards.

I don't think it matters all that much whether or not it is the exact same. That said, the Symbolics Lisp machines had Control in addition to those, no Alt as a standard modifier. Historically Control was not a modifier key at all so it could be argued it's more correct to appropriate the labels that actually are only for modifier usage.

[Sent]

Hopefully the adapter kit reaches the higher tiers.

[tyvar1]

Hopefully the adapter kit reaches the higher tiers.

I just hope that JD40 kit gets tipped!
The green tea JD40 kit got tipped just one hour before deadline :/

[meow a cat]

Hopefully the adapter kit reaches the higher tiers.

I just hope that JD40 kit gets tipped!
The green tea JD40 kit got tipped just one hour before deadline :/

I'm reallllyy hoping this one tips!

I'll be picking up a JD40 kit + blanks or alphas + Planetary pack for sure.

[Booper]

Hopefully the adapter kit reaches the higher tiers.

Yea...  It was the one kit that seemed kinda pricey all things considered. I am thinking about taking out that space bar and selling it separately to shave a few bucks for those who don't need that size? It's hard to split it up because there are a lot of overlapping keys in those kits.

I just hope that JD40 kit gets tipped!
The green tea JD40 kit got tipped just one hour before deadline :/

I'm reallllyy hoping this one tips!

I'll be picking up a JD40 kit + blanks or alphas + Planetary pack for sure.

Hopefully it will be fine! I'm going to set a low tip point on it and the price seems ok I think

[tyvar1]

Hopefully the adapter kit reaches the higher tiers.

Yea...  It was the one kit that seemed kinda pricey all things considered. I am thinking about taking out that space bar and selling it separately to shave a few bucks for those who don't need that size? It's hard to split it up because there are a lot of overlapping keys in those kits.

I just hope that JD40 kit gets tipped!
The green tea JD40 kit got tipped just one hour before deadline :/

I'm reallllyy hoping this one tips!

I'll be picking up a JD40 kit + blanks or alphas + Planetary pack for sure.

Hopefully it will be fine! I'm going to set a low tip point on it and the price seems ok I think

Great news!

[Sent]

Yea...  It was the one kit that seemed kinda pricey all things considered. I am thinking about taking out that space bar and selling it separately to shave a few bucks for those who don't need that size? It's hard to split it up because there are a lot of overlapping keys in those kits.

I'd think most people picking up that kit are running a 7u space bar but I'm not sure.  Either way, it wouldn't make a difference to me.  I'd still need to pick it up no matter what kit you put it in, lol.

[abandoner]

Prices are looking good. Can't wait!

[Jersern]

The prices are pretty good especially at the 200s tiers. I might just buy 2 sets, one Polaris one Orion just so I can mix and match. 

[jackalope]

In for a core set.

[Booper]

Prices are looking good. Can't wait!

The prices are pretty good especially at the 200s tiers. I might just buy 2 sets, one Polaris one Orion just so I can mix and match. 

XD Glad to hear it!! I was really happy the prices weren't extreme. I'm trying to make it super customizable so everyone can sorta build their own set. Hypothetically, someone could just do a whole blank blue and purple board if they wanted to! So maybe lots of folks will buy in 

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Really interested in this set for my ergodox that should be coming in soon. I tried mocking up what it would look like using the sets available (in paint, please don't jugde), and the result was a little rough.



I used the Alphas, Ergodox, Planets, and 100% kits to make this (which already has the price pushing $110) and there are some keys that I feel are still needed.

More details inside, but it got a little long:

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Missing Keys:
1.5 Blue - Shift
1 Blue - Ctrl/Alt/Win (or Super/Hyper/Meta)...honestly I'll probably end up using the astronaut helmet or galaxies for the planet pack to cover these
1.5 Blue - |\
1.5 Blue - CapsLock
1.5 Blue - Backspace

The adapter kit covers all of these except the 1.5 Blue - |\ and the 1.5 Blue - Shift, but currently the adapter kit is purple so they wouldn't really fit with the ergodox' blue. In the Granite ergodox kit, matt3o included two 1.5 shift keys and I think the ergodox set would be right right place to put them. Currently, I believe the only kit that has the 1.5 Blue - |\ key is the Base Mods, so I think this should be added to the ergodox kit too. From the ergodox layouts I've seen, I think there are much fewer people who would want all of the 1.5 - Super Hyper Meta, so having 2 of each of them is probably way too much, so I would love to see the 1.5 Shift, Caps, Backspace replace them.

Best Case Scenario: only have to buy Alphas, Ergodox, 100%, and Planets which puts the cost at around $110 with enough sets bought

I'd also love to see a grey F Row.

Unrelated to the different keys, the {[ keys pictured in the ergodox set are currently the same key but rotated, where one of them should be the horizontal flip of the other. (I fixed this in my ergodox mockup)

Really looking forward to this set's release, and sorry for the wall of text.

[user 18]

I'd also love to see a grey F Row.

+1

[DatLag]

Can't wait to get these!! Planning on getting an ergodox next year so these will look great with them!! Probably gonna be interchanging them with my Poker 2 and granite R2 set when it finally arrives

[Booper]

Really interested in this set for my ergodox that should be coming in soon. I tried mocking up what it would look like using the sets available (in paint, please don't jugde), and the result was a little rough.

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I used the Alphas, Ergodox, Planets, and 100% kits to make this (which already has the price pushing $110) and there are some keys that I feel are still needed.

More details inside, but it got a little long:

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Missing Keys:
1.5 Blue - Shift
1 Blue - Ctrl/Alt/Win (or Super/Hyper/Meta)...honestly I'll probably end up using the astronaut helmet or galaxies for the planet pack to cover these
1.5 Blue - |\
1.5 Blue - CapsLock
1.5 Blue - Backspace

The adapter kit covers all of these except the 1.5 Blue - |\ and the 1.5 Blue - Shift, but currently the adapter kit is purple so they wouldn't really fit with the ergodox' blue. In the Granite ergodox kit, matt3o included two 1.5 shift keys and I think the ergodox set would be right right place to put them. Currently, I believe the only kit that has the 1.5 Blue - |\ key is the Base Mods, so I think this should be added to the ergodox kit too. From the ergodox layouts I've seen, I think there are much fewer people who would want all of the 1.5 - Super Hyper Meta, so having 2 of each of them is probably way too much, so I would love to see the 1.5 Shift, Caps, Backspace replace them.

Best Case Scenario: only have to buy Alphas, Ergodox, 100%, and Planets which puts the cost at around $110 with enough sets bought

I'd also love to see a grey F Row.

Unrelated to the different keys, the {[ keys pictured in the ergodox set are currently the same key but rotated, where one of them should be the horizontal flip of the other. (I fixed this in my ergodox mockup)

Really looking forward to this set's release, and sorry for the wall of text.

Judge? Yea right! Thank you so much for taking the time to lay this out for me! I've been struggling with Ergodox - it seems like every example on the internet uses a different layout.

Great suggestion swapping for the Caps, backspace, shift keys.. I did this, as well as changed the "?/" to "|\" and only had to add 1 key (alt). Check it out and let me know if this covers it. Any other Ergodox users, please chime if you see any errors.

And I will probably add a core colorway f row kit as a child pack. 

[00zeRO]

Hey OP, sorry if it has been brought up but have you gained approval for all the new legend designs in your planetary pack? Plus, all new legends carry with them a hefty $45 fee per new legend which will cause this GB to have an astronomical MOQ. Just letting you know.

The hardest part is tweaking the legends to make them Doubleshootable (it should be a word:rolleyes:). One is hard enough to clear, but having everyone of you legends make the grade, that may take a while.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but I have two failed GB's under my belt and I blame start up fees and low MOQ's.

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Judge? Yea right! Thank you so much for taking the time to lay this out for me! I've been struggling with Ergodox - it seems like every example on the internet uses a different layout.

Great suggestion swapping for the Caps, backspace, shift keys.. I did this, as well as changed the "?/" to "|\" and only had to add 1 key (alt). Check it out and let me know if this covers it. Any other Ergodox users, please chime if you see any errors.

And I will probably add a core colorway f row kit as a child pack. 

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This is great, thanks so much. And I totally agree with you, ergodox keys are so often hard to do because of the variability of people's layouts, but I think the new one should do much better.

Also looking forward to the grey f stripe!

[Booper]

Hey OP, sorry if it has been brought up but have you gained approval for all the new legend designs in your planetary pack? Plus, all new legends carry with them a hefty $45 fee per new legend which will cause this GB to have an astronomical MOQ. Just letting you know.

The hardest part is tweaking the legends to make them Doubleshootable (it should be a word:rolleyes:). One is hard enough to clear, but having everyone of you legends make the grade, that may take a while.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but I have two failed GB's under my belt and I blame start up fees and low MOQ's.

Nah, I underdstand the concern!

But yea! These have all been approved. I have created .svg files per SP directions and I sent them to Melissa for approval and they are now good to go! If you look in the old original posts, you can see that some of the novelties have evolved over time. That was because of the back and forth with Signature Plastics about CNC/doubleshot compatibility. All the current novelties check out!

Also, yes the legend costs have been considered. The prices you see do include the new legends! They are already rolled into the core set. I plan to set the MOQ at 50 on the core kit which knocks the customs to about $.90 per.

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Is the plan to run Super Hyper Meta or Ctrl Alt Win? Some sets seem to include one while others include the other

[Booper]

I'm planning on Hyper, Super, Meta. I think most of the current renderings are updated with the exception of the images on the PMK site. I have not updated that post.

I will run "ctrl, alt win" keys with the 100% kit OR as a separate traditional kit.

[00zeRO]

Hey OP, sorry if it has been brought up but have you gained approval for all the new legend designs in your planetary pack? Plus, all new legends carry with them a hefty $45 fee per new legend which will cause this GB to have an astronomical MOQ. Just letting you know.

The hardest part is tweaking the legends to make them Doubleshootable (it should be a word:rolleyes:). One is hard enough to clear, but having everyone of you legends make the grade, that may take a while.

Not trying to burst your bubble, but I have two failed GB's under my belt and I blame start up fees and low MOQ's.

Nah, I underdstand the concern!

But yea! These have all been approved. I have created .svg files per SP directions and I sent them to Melissa for approval and they are now good to go! If you look in the old original posts, you can see that some of the novelties have evolved over time. That was because of the back and forth with Signature Plastics about CNC/doubleshot compatibility. All the current novelties check out!

Also, yes the legend costs have been considered. The prices you see do include the new legends! They are already rolled into the core set. I plan to set the MOQ at 50 on the core kit which knocks the customs to about $.90 per.

Well done! Too much of a hassle for me, but it looks like you bugged Melissa worse than I did.

[Skuloth]

I'm planning on Hyper, Super, Meta. I think most of the current renderings are updated with the exception of the images on the PMK site. I have not updated that post.

I will run "ctrl, alt win" keys with the 100% kit OR as a separate traditional kit.

My vote goes to a separate kit that has ctrl alt win keys for the planck and JD40 as well.

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I'm planning on Hyper, Super, Meta. I think most of the current renderings are updated with the exception of the images on the PMK site. I have not updated that post.

I will run "ctrl, alt win" keys with the 100% kit OR as a separate traditional kit.

Ah, yes I was seeing the pictures on PMK. I think if the goal is to stick to super hyper meta then maybe make the alt key in the ergodox set a Hyper Meta instead.

[tyvar1]

I'm planning on Hyper, Super, Meta. I think most of the current renderings are updated with the exception of the images on the PMK site. I have not updated that post.

I will run "ctrl, alt win" keys with the 100% kit OR as a separate traditional kit.

My vote goes to a separate kit that has ctrl alt win keys for the planck and JD40 as well.

Yeah same here!

[fejus]

I love this set and plan on buying one!

[nya]

 

[Booper]

update!

The interest check expires on 11/11 and according to SP, this set can be available as a Group Buy towards the end of next week!

[tribade]

update!

The interest check expires on 11/11 and according to SP, this set can be available as a Group Buy towards the end of next week!

Exciting! it's a great looking set.

[tyvar1]

update!

The interest check expires on 11/11 and according to SP, this set can be available as a Group Buy towards the end of next week!

Great news!

[meow a cat]

update!

The interest check expires on 11/11 and according to SP, this set can be available as a Group Buy towards the end of next week!

Awesome! Time to set aside some cash for this.

Thanks for all your hard work making this happen! I hope this GB does really well. 

[Booper]

update!

The interest check expires on 11/11 and according to SP, this set can be available as a Group Buy towards the end of next week!

Awesome! Time to set aside some cash for this.

Thanks for all your hard work making this happen! I hope this GB does really well. 

Thanks! I hope so too! I'm so nervous/excited!

[tyvar1]

update!

The interest check expires on 11/11 and according to SP, this set can be available as a Group Buy towards the end of next week!

Awesome! Time to set aside some cash for this.

Thanks for all your hard work making this happen! I hope this GB does really well. 

Thanks! I hope so too! I'm so nervous/excited!

This is going to be big!

[kebby]

Feel like I'm already getting way too much in terms of keyboards and keycaps but it's impossible to skip something as awesome as this.

[nya]

Are the blank pieces no longer being offered in the set?
I don't see them on the PMK Interest Check page.

[Booper]

Are the blank pieces no longer being offered in the set?
I don't see them on the PMK Interest Check page.

Yup! I'm offering blanks in every size and all 3 colors. The IC page on PMK hasn't really been updated as it will become just the Core Kit - Alphas page when it transfers to a group Buy.

here is a list of all the kits I've submitted -

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[Skuloth]

You misspelled 'win' in the polaris win kit. I don't know if that matters, but w/e.

[Booper]

You misspelled 'win' in the polaris win kit. I don't know if that matters, but w/e.

haha, I noticed that when I posted the list! It's editable

[nya]

Are the blank pieces no longer being offered in the set?
I don't see them on the PMK Interest Check page.

Yup! I'm offering blanks in every size and all 3 colors. The IC page on PMK hasn't really been updated as it will become just the Core Kit - Alphas page when it transfers to a group Buy.

here is a list of all the kits I've submitted -

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Awesome! You rock!!

[delete_this]

This is totally awesome! Thanks for designing this!

I'm not sure how popular this would be, but would you consider a POS kit? The biggest issue with POS keyboards is that the Return, Backspace,  and Caps Lock keys are 2u with only two stems (spaced to go over two mx switches). The space bar is also only 4u (please see here for an example), but I know SP has made them before.

If this isn't possible, what about just a blank 2u key option with 2 stems?

Thanks! Keep it up!

[abandoner]

Its up on PMK now! 
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/deep-space/

RIP wallet

EDIT: Looks like a lot of the prices aren't set. A lot of items are set to $0 including the core set.

[Skuloth]

My wallet is going to be sad.

[worldspawn]

Really interested in this set for my ergodox that should be coming in soon. I tried mocking up what it would look like using the sets available (in paint, please don't jugde), and the result was a little rough.

Show Image

I used the Alphas, Ergodox, Planets, and 100% kits to make this (which already has the price pushing $110) and there are some keys that I feel are still needed.

More details inside, but it got a little long:

More

Missing Keys:
1.5 Blue - Shift
1 Blue - Ctrl/Alt/Win (or Super/Hyper/Meta)...honestly I'll probably end up using the astronaut helmet or galaxies for the planet pack to cover these
1.5 Blue - |\
1.5 Blue - CapsLock
1.5 Blue - Backspace

The adapter kit covers all of these except the 1.5 Blue - |\ and the 1.5 Blue - Shift, but currently the adapter kit is purple so they wouldn't really fit with the ergodox' blue. In the Granite ergodox kit, matt3o included two 1.5 shift keys and I think the ergodox set would be right right place to put them. Currently, I believe the only kit that has the 1.5 Blue - |\ key is the Base Mods, so I think this should be added to the ergodox kit too. From the ergodox layouts I've seen, I think there are much fewer people who would want all of the 1.5 - Super Hyper Meta, so having 2 of each of them is probably way too much, so I would love to see the 1.5 Shift, Caps, Backspace replace them.

Best Case Scenario: only have to buy Alphas, Ergodox, 100%, and Planets which puts the cost at around $110 with enough sets bought

I'd also love to see a grey F Row.

Unrelated to the different keys, the {[ keys pictured in the ergodox set are currently the same key but rotated, where one of them should be the horizontal flip of the other. (I fixed this in my ergodox mockup)

Really looking forward to this set's release, and sorry for the wall of text.

Judge? Yea right! Thank you so much for taking the time to lay this out for me! I've been struggling with Ergodox - it seems like every example on the internet uses a different layout.

Great suggestion swapping for the Caps, backspace, shift keys.. I did this, as well as changed the "?/" to "|\" and only had to add 1 key (alt). Check it out and let me know if this covers it. Any other Ergodox users, please chime if you see any errors.

And I will probably add a core colorway f row kit as a child pack. 

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damn, I'm sad to see the 1.5 ?/ key go away, there's already a \| 1.5 in the core set, I use the 1.5 ?/ key as my bottom right

[Skuloth]

Why do over half the kits show up as $0?

[SlotH42]

Why do over half the kits show up as $0?

all of them are $0 for me???