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Offline yomammary

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Micro USB question
« on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 09:26:12 »
When I bought my WASD v2 I didn't look into this but the keyboard comes with a micro USB plug and cable.
I'm wondering if anyone here has opened the keyboard up to put in a permanent USB cable in there, if so is it hard? My soldering skills are minimal but I know how to use one.

This is just in case I have a problem with the micro USB plug.
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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 10:47:57 »
I haven't opened up the V2 (only the V1) but there is usually a connector on the PCB that you can use for a fixed cable.

Then you cut out the old micro USB port and run the cable out through there.

Offline qihqi

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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 11:45:25 »
Or you can open the keyboard, plug the microusb, close the board with the plug inside of the keyboard. Then from outside it looks likes one cable coming out of the keyboard.

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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 12:00:02 »
Or you can open the keyboard, plug the microusb, close the board with the plug inside of the keyboard. Then from outside it looks likes one cable coming out of the keyboard.

If I read that right, it's a great idea!

It would work on the novatouch for sure. If you post a picture of the underside after opening it I can give some more insight.

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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 17:58:34 »
Unfortunately all Micro USB sockets are surface-mounted, with the lines pretty close together so it would be a bit fiddly to replace the socket with a fixed cable in its place. It would probably be easier to route the small cables inside the main cable to different solder places on the PCB.

I don't have any WASD v2, but I have seen in pictures that it has some cable channels on the underside. If you route the cable so that it does not come out the back in the centre but there are two bends in the cable, then I think that you wouldn't have to worry so much about it popping out by mistake.
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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 21:22:54 »
Here's a picture of the micro0USB jack on teh novatouch:

So if the WASD V2 is like that it would be pretty easy to replace with a straight cable. Just plug the micro USB into the jack, and don't screw it down into place, instead just push it back and let the cable come out of the case.

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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 22:08:34 »
Here's a picture of the micro0USB jack on teh novatouch:
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So if the WASD V2 is like that it would be pretty easy to replace with a straight cable. Just plug the micro USB into the jack, and don't screw it down into place, instead just push it back and let the cable come out of the case.

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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 05:01:13 »
I'd just use the MicroUSB socket as it was designed. They're more sturdy and longer lasting than the MiniUSB sockets used in most keyboards.
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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 07:30:30 »
I'd just use the MicroUSB socket as it was designed. They're more sturdy and longer lasting than the MiniUSB sockets used in most keyboards.
Yeah everybody seems to have a different opinion on this issue.
If I ever have problems I'll post what I did.
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Re: Micro USB question
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:07:21 »
Micro USB has the advantage over Mini USB that the lugs that hold it are in the plug and not in the socket, so when the lugs break you only need to replace a cheap cable.

However, because micro USB sockets are only surface-mounted (when not at the end of a cable like on the Novatouch) there is only solder that holds the socket to the PCB's copper lines and then glue that holds the PCB's copper lines to the PCB substrate. Mini USB sockets are often soldered with pieces of the socket going though holes in the PCB.
That means that when a micro USB socket gets nudged or twisted, it breaks more easily than Mini USB, and when that happens, the PCB also gets damaged.
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