[IC] GMK Blue Mod Set (Final Render & Pricing Received) Going Live April 3rd!

[IPT]

Sorry ray, but if you don't want your posts to be misinterpreted then you shouldn't talk with gifs. It was very unclear what you were trying to say.

[FrostyToast]

Sorry ray, but if you don't want your posts to be misinterpreted then you shouldn't talk with gifs. It was very unclear what you were trying to say.

I never thought anyone took GIFs seriously. )

[ideus]

Seems a bit expensive to me. It might suffer from the same issue that Ivan is having with his 85|15 mod pack. I think of you can get something that is around $60 with shipping to most people you have a winner. $70 before shipping is too much in my opinion for just mods :/

I can work to cut down a few if a few other people feel this way. Also, keep in mind it isn't just mods, it's meant for full TKL compatibility. Just a mods set could be much cheaper, but I want to do something new.

Any product will have a price that is debatable, this is not the exception, i depends not in the product only, but in the perceived value. Again, let be the GB to be the point to know if the price is ok for at least 250 buyers. Mean while, I think the most important part is to get feedback on keys available in the set and their colors. Discussing the set based on price only will get us nowhere.

[LechnerDE]

70$ before shipping and import taxes is really rough. I mean I will definitely order 1 set, but I can't help with more.

The thing is at this price we won't get any orders from newcomers. The veterans will surely place some orders, but then we will cruise around 100 orders just like in Ivan's GBs


My suggestion is to start the GB with your last kit at 70$, see how it goes and then probably fall back to a Mod Set Light.

I think the magic price for a TKL mod set is 49$ before shipping.

If it fails we should try a simple ANSI TKL set without Tsangan, ISO and whatever.

Sure we can't use it on our korean customs, but everyone of us also has a Filco, Ducky, KUL etc.

I'd rather have a standard TKL set that I can use with my vintage 10$ cherry sets than nothing GMK at all (again)

[ideus]

I wonder why we want this set to be in green: To differentiate it from Ivan's?. A beige tone may work also, I know that it may be in certain competition with Ivan's proposal, but I think each set may attract their own attention, otherwise, let the designers join forces to get just one proposal? Well, it is a possibility.

[HoffmanMyster]

Next revision received:

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To cut down on costs, what if we do:

1.5x mods - A profile
1.25x mods - B profile

It does reduce choice, but it also reduces costs. 

[billnye]

Next revision received:

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To cut down on costs, what if we do:

1.5x mods - A profile
1.25x mods - B profile

It does reduce choice, but it also reduces costs.

I'm just going to take out all the A profile caps. It will be the largest reduction in price and we can work from there. I'll post a new quote when I get it :)

[tjweir]

To cut down on costs, what if we do:

1.5x mods - A profile
1.25x mods - B profile

It does reduce choice, but it also reduces costs. 

I'm a 1.5u user and I approve of this message.

[iamtootallforthis]

I would be in if the price was dropped a bit. I don't have much disposable income, but I like the color scheme and want to use it with my dolch.

[renne]

$70 is a little expensive, but I'll still buy one if nothing is changed.
what about 1.5x A profile, 1.25x B profile?
And instead of windows key, make a small GB of blanks will be great.

[geniekid]

I'm just going to take out all the A profile caps. It will be the largest reduction in price and we can work from there. I'll post a new quote when I get it

Do A profile caps cost more than B profile?  Or are they the same and we think more people would prefer B if they had to choose?

[billnye]

I'm just going to take out all the A profile caps. It will be the largest reduction in price and we can work from there. I'll post a new quote when I get it

Do A profile caps cost more than B profile?  Or are they the same and we think more people would prefer B if they had to choose?

The arrow keys are also a profile, so if we eliminate that, it would get rid of more caps.

If we keep 1.5 a profile, I would want to keep those arrows as well.

[HoffmanMyster]

If we keep 1.5 a profile, I would want to keep those arrows as well.

Agreed.

Can they provide quotes for both options discussed above?  (remove all A profile, and remove 1.5 B profile) 
Or are we just canning A profile entirely?

I'd like to see a GB with A profile make it through to production. 

[billnye]

If we keep 1.5 a profile, I would want to keep those arrows as well.

Agreed.

Can they provide quotes for both options discussed above?  (remove all A profile, and remove 1.5 B profile) 
Or are we just canning A profile entirely?

I'd like to see a GB with A profile make it through to production. 

Sure I'll ask.

Photekq's gb has A profile for sure, so if this doesn't work there is still hope!

[geniekid]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding.  Why not get rid of the B profile from the bottom row altogether and provide 1.25x and 1.5x support completely in A profile?

[HoffmanMyster]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding.  Why not get rid of the B profile from the bottom row altogether and provide 1.25x and 1.5x support completely in A profile?

No 1.25x molds for A profile. 

[geniekid]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding.  Why not get rid of the B profile from the bottom row altogether and provide 1.25x and 1.5x support completely in A profile?

No 1.25x molds for A profile. 

Oh I think I remember reading that before.  My fault - thank you for clarifying!

[HoffmanMyster]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding.  Why not get rid of the B profile from the bottom row altogether and provide 1.25x and 1.5x support completely in A profile?

No 1.25x molds for A profile. 

Oh I think I remember reading that before.  My fault - thank you for clarifying!

I don't recall it being terribly well-documented, so it's no one's fault.  In fact, I was nervous to answer without a source to reference, as I've only heard it through the grapevine - I think either Ivan or photek, etc has mentioned it before but can't remember where. 

[billnye]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding.  Why not get rid of the B profile from the bottom row altogether and provide 1.25x and 1.5x support completely in A profile?

No 1.25x molds for A profile. 

Oh I think I remember reading that before.  My fault - thank you for clarifying!

I don't recall it being terribly well-documented, so it's no one's fault.  In fact, I was nervous to answer without a source to reference, as I've only heard it through the grapevine - I think either Ivan or photek, etc has mentioned it before but can't remember where. 

Hoff is right

[billnye]

I sent an email asking for a quote for a set excluding all A profile and one excluding 1.5 B profile

[cooldiscretion]

I sent an email asking for a quote for a set excluding all A profile and one excluding 1.5 B profile

I appreciate all the effort, man. :thumb

[billnye]

I also have a few more ideas in mind to reduce cost. I'm determined to get it down to ~$50 while still having an adequate amount of caps

[whentheclouds]

why is GMK so inflexible when it comes to MOQ? the high prices at least make sense, but wouldn't they stand to gain much more business by allowing orders with 100-150 MOQ?

[billnye]

why is GMK so inflexible when it comes to MOQ? the high prices at least make sense, but wouldn't they stand to gain much more business by allowing orders with 100-150 MOQ?

GMK, unlike SP, doesn't rely on keyboard enthusiasts like us to stay open. Their MOQ was 500, but thanks to ivan we were able to lower that to 250.

I'm just glad they take orders

[ideus]

Why is this set in green?

[radio_killah]

Why is this set in green?

Billnye wanted it in green?

[billnye]

Why is this set in green?

I thought that green would compliment classic beige nicely.

If you have any other suggestions I'm all ears!

Just a note for everyone: it isn't going to stay 3B. I think the color looks quite awful.

[rowdy]

+1 vote for AE, although even at $50 I will be struggling to justify the expense.

For example:

$70 (as it is now) + $15 postage = US$85.  Convert currency = AUD$106.  This is too much for a modifier set.

$50 + $15 postage = US$65.  Convert currency = AUD$81.  This is more reasonable, but I can still get a full set (maybe not GMK) for this price.

OTOH I do understand that the set contains dozens of keycaps to satisfy many different keyboard layouts, most of which are not relevant for me.

[billnye]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

[hwood34]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

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awful

[HoffmanMyster]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

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10/10 would buy 10/10 sets.   ^-^

[billnye]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

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awful

Thanks for the input! :thumb:

[exitfire401]

I'll almost guaranteed buy a single set in that color.

[FrostyToast]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

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10/10 would buy 10/10 sets.   ^-^

10/10 is 1....

[HoffmanMyster]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

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10/10 would buy 10/10 sets.   ^-^

10/10 is 1....

I give the set a score of 10 points out of a possible 10 points (100%, as you've pointed out).  I will buy 10 out of a possible 10 sets I would like to buy (again, 100%, as you've pointed out).   ^-^

I'll probably buy 4 though.

[digi]

I will buy 10 out of a possible 10 sets I would like to buy (again, 100%, as you've pointed out).   

I'll probably buy 4 though.

lol'd...nice.

[jdcarpe]

FYI, there is a way to get a GMK buy with an MOQ of only 150, but it's more expensive, of course.

Send the order for 250 sets, get the quote for the price @250, then divide that amount by the 150 orders, and that's what each order costs. Donate the extra 100 sets to GH or something.

Like I said, more expensive, but you don't have to climb that mountain of 250 orders.

[bueller]

I think white Legends look better on AE but I'll probably buy a set regardless, probably going to be the only chance I get.

[hwood34]

Thanks to Zeal for this mockup AE is likely the color we will be going with, and this is what it will roughly look like

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10/10 would buy 10/10 sets.   ^-^

10/10 is 1....

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[billnye]

I think white Legends look better on AE but I'll probably buy a set regardless, probably going to be the only chance I get.

I agree that AE looks better with white legends, but I'm going to stick with black. I think it could look quite nice with Dolch and even WoB

[billnye]

FYI, there is a way to get a GMK buy with an MOQ of only 150, but it's more expensive, of course.

Send the order for 250 sets, get the quote for the price @250, then divide that amount by the 150 orders, and that's what each order costs. Donate the extra 100 sets to GH or something.

Like I said, more expensive, but you don't have to climb that mountain of 250 orders.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the suggestion JD

[HoffmanMyster]

I think white Legends look better on AE but I'll probably buy a set regardless, probably going to be the only chance I get.

I agree that AE looks better with white legends, but I'm going to stick with black. I think it could look quite nice with Dolch and even WoB

Personally, I think that black legends will go better with Dolch/WoB than white legends would go with BoW.

[rowdy]

I think white Legends look better on AE but I'll probably buy a set regardless, probably going to be the only chance I get.

I agree that AE looks better with white legends, but I'm going to stick with black. I think it could look quite nice with Dolch and even WoB

But Dolch has white legends!

[bueller]

I think white Legends look better on AE but I'll probably buy a set regardless, probably going to be the only chance I get.

I agree that AE looks better with white legends, but I'm going to stick with black. I think it could look quite nice with Dolch and even WoB

But Dolch has white legends!

+1

Only time I like the legends not to match is when they're swapped around ie (white legends on blue mods, blue legends on white alphas.

[bueller]

[nubbinator]

AE is nice as an accent for Dolch, I really don't think a full set of AE will look good with Dolch.

[billnye]

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I'm asking for that legend. Hopefully it will be a part of the esc pack.

[jonathanyu]

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I'm asking for that legend. Hopefully it will be a part of the esc pack.

iirc, ivan said GMK only have that legend in A profile.

[billnye]

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I'm asking for that legend. Hopefully it will be a part of the esc pack.

iirc, ivan said GMK only have that legend in A profile.

Yea that's what they told me as well. I'm still interested in doing it because I really like that legend ^-^

[MGH]

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I'm asking for that legend. Hopefully it will be a part of the esc pack.

iirc, ivan said GMK only have that legend in A profile.

Yea that's what they told me as well. I'm still interested in doing it because I really like that legend ^-^

DO IT ;D