[IC] GMK Blue Mod Set (Final Render & Pricing Received) Going Live April 3rd!

[elton5354]

Probably mentioned before, but any chance on adding printed windowed caps?

[CommonCurt]

Probably mentioned before, but any chance on adding printed windowed caps?

[tjweir]

May 15th?! THATS TOO FAR AWAY!

Maybe the Canadian dollar will recover a bit in the meantime. 
That's how I'm framing it.

[billnye]

May 15th?! THATS TOO FAR AWAY!

Sorry sir, I would start it earlier if I could.

Sometimes the hack has to take the back seat. If I can finish CMYW sooner than estimated this can start earlier

Probably mentioned before, but any chance on adding printed windowed caps?

GMK said they can't because this set is so small. If it was a full keyboard set they would be able to do it.

I wish we could have them as well 

[HoffmanMyster]

Gonna go ahead and put a tentative start date on this as Friday May 15th.

KeyCon 2015 GMK Blue Mod Set buying party!!   

[hjc1710]

GMK said they can't because this set is so small. If it was a full keyboard set they would be able to do it.

I wish we could have them as well 

Damn you GMK and your seemingly arbitrary rules about windowed keys in GBs...

[reaxas]

Would it be possible to have blanks?

[geniekid]

You are smart not to begin a GB with AP exams on the horizon.  Good luck

[billnye]

Would it be possible to have blanks?

No, sorry. I'm trying to keep cost as low as possible. If I added blanks there would be a lot I would add which would bring up the price a few dollars.

You are smart not to begin a GB with AP exams on the horizon.  Good luck

Thank you!

[ideus]

A one unit \| key cap in row 3 profile would make an exclusive symmetric layout for some of the European ISO users. Adding almost nothing to the cost, while improving the value of the set.

[billnye]

A one unit \| key cap in row 3 profile would make an exclusive symmetric layout for some of the European ISO users. Adding almost nothing to the cost, while improving the value of the set.

I am not aware of any ISO board that has that cap.

ISO people should have complete symmetry as it is

[ideus]

A one unit \| key cap in row 3 profile would make an exclusive symmetric layout for some of the European ISO users. Adding almost nothing to the cost, while improving the value of the set.

I am not aware of any ISO board that has that cap.

ISO people should have complete symmetry as it is

Precisely ISO sets have that cap in alpha color, only Ivan's recent beige mod set included that cap in mod's color, but in row 1 profile. The row 3 would be even better. Just an idea.

[ideus]

One more thing: The renders in the original post are different, one has the `~ key, but the one at the bottom doesn't. Which is the actual one?

[billnye]

One more thing: The renders in the original post are different, one has the `~ key, but the one at the bottom doesn't. Which is the actual one?

The one with '~ is the correct one.

I included the one on the bottom because that's the one edited to be more color accurate

[ideus]

One more thing: The renders in the original post are different, one has the `~ key, but the one at the bottom doesn't. Which is the actual one?

The one with '~ is the correct one.

I included the one on the bottom because that's the one edited to be more color accurate

Great! That key is important.

[Prelim]

I am not aware of any ISO board that has that cap.

here my 1800 ISO portuguese (it's also on italian layout)

[billnye]

I am not aware of any ISO board that has that cap.

here my 1800 ISO portuguese

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he said r3, which no ISO boards I have seen as.

There won't be a matching cap in that spot due to the wide variety of legends that are used there on different ISO layouts.

[Prelim]

ups, my bad... didn't noticed he said R3 cap 

[ideus]

This.


Or maybe a blank key?

[ideus]

A couple more examples. Again, it was just an idea. But, they may be ANSI layouts with a big enter similar to ISO, that could be the reason, because you do not recognize the \| keycap as part of an ISO setup. My bad.

[domoaligato]

always interested in moar gmk.

[Blackehart]

So this will definitely match EK's blue keys?
I'd like to know since there isn't an extra left shift for us lowly fc660m users.

[jdcarpe]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

[swill]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

No no no. Make it pretty and make them match the mods.

[JaccoW]

A couple more examples. Again, it was just an idea. But, they may be ANSI layouts with a big enter similar to ISO, that could be the reason, because you do not recognize the \| keycap as part of an ISO setup. My bad.

Moar ISO examples. \| in bottom left.


Just kidding. Just give me 1800 ANSI support and I'll be fine.
Digging the Ctrl Caps key btw.

[nubbinator]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

#symmetry4lyfe

[jdcarpe]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

No no no. Make it pretty and make them match the mods.

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

#symmetry4lyfe

You people are the reason why I'm doing a uniform colorway for my next keycap GB. 

[nubbinator]

So much hate over two keys.  Embrace those who are different than you.  I was born this way and can't hide who I am. 

#StopTheHate. #EmbraceDifference #SymmetryphilaIsNotAChoice

[swill]

Haha. I only joined in to mess with JD.

I personally prefer the symmetrical look, but everyone is different, so to each their own.

[geniekid]

It's worth noting in this specific case that the \| key is also doubling as a possible Bksp/Del for HHKB users in which case the color makes actual sense (#TeamJD).

[retrochick]

I'm in simply because i need a stepped caps lock to match my original cherry wob doubleshots. The blue will make it snazzy

[billnye]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

I totally agree

A couple more examples. Again, it was just an idea. But, they may be ANSI layouts with a big enter similar to ISO, that could be the reason, because you do not recognize the \| keycap as part of an ISO setup. My bad.

Moar ISO examples. \| in bottom left.

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Just kidding. Just give me 1800 ANSI support and I'll be fine.
Digging the Ctrl Caps key btw. :thumb:

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the \| key in that case be part of the alphas?

So much hate over two keys.  Embrace those who are different than you.  I was born this way and can't hide who I am. 

#StopTheHate. #EmbraceDifference #SymmetryphilaIsNotAChoice

This thread is a no liberal zone

It's worth noting in this specific case that the \| key is also doubling as a possible Bksp/Del for HHKB users in which case the color makes actual sense (#TeamJD).

Best of both worlds <3

[jdcarpe]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the \| key in that case be part of the alphas?

It's always part of the alphas, no matter what color these heathens want to make it.

[ideus]

 

[strict]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

[bueller]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

Agree here as well, I've never liked the symmetry of it.

[rowdy]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

+1 because they are not modifiers.

Simple as that.

[swill]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

+1 because they are not modifiers.

Simple as that.

Define modifier...  Tab, Backspace and Enter are not modifiers either (technically).  They only have single actions and do not modify the behavior of any other key.  SOOO...  If you are going to so loosely define modifiers, I think I should get some leeway on the keys that are in the grouping you are calling 'modifiers'. 

[bueller]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

+1 because they are not modifiers.

Simple as that.

Define modifier...  Tab, Backspace and Enter are not modifiers either (technically).  They only have single actions and do not modify the behavior of any other key.  SOOO...  If you are going to so loosely define modifiers, I think I should get some leeway on the keys that are in the grouping you are calling 'modifiers'. 

A better way to think about it is that they aren't alphas.

[nubbinator]

Then shouldn't many of the numpad keys be the same color as the alphas?  Why are some of the Function row caps sometimes the same color as the alphas?

You can argue every which way, but in the end it comes down to preferences.  Some people prefer the "traditional" mod/alpha split (even though there are many versions, some that even had two to three mod colors or F and J caps that matched some mods) and others prefer symmetry or other permutations.  It's just like different people prefer different layouts.

[whentheclouds]

^ agreed. between cap colors and mod legends, there is enough room to accommodate all of our preferences, no matter how bastardized. that said i have no qualm conceding that flipped spacebars look gross, i only do it because they feel better

[bueller]

^ agreed. between cap colors and mod legends, there is enough room to accommodate all of our preferences, no matter how bastardized. that said i have no qualm conceding that flipped spacebars look gross, i only do it because they feel better

Flipped spacebars > all other spacebars.

[ideus]

This discussion is redundant and repetitive; billnye has made his decision, thus, this argumentation is deemed unnecessary. The only good part of it is that it keeps the thread kicking.

[Lastpilot]

[rowdy]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

+1 because they are not modifiers.

Simple as that.

Define modifier...  Tab, Backspace and Enter are not modifiers either (technically).  They only have single actions and do not modify the behavior of any other key.  SOOO...  If you are going to so loosely define modifiers, I think I should get some leeway on the keys that are in the grouping you are calling 'modifiers'. 

Good point!

Keys that generate a new character on the screen should be one colour.

Other keys that have special functions should be a different colour.  Many (most) of those special keys modify the functionality of the first group of keys, and thus are generally referred to as modifiers.

Numpad - most of my keyboards are TKL or smaller, however from a numerical perspective, the digits represent a number, and the other keys modify that number.  That's kinda weak, but at least more or less consistent with the other thing I said above.

[bazh]

#stopthesymetrichype #theyrenot


the only proper symetrical colorway is HHKB's layout, otherwise the original fits better

[rowdy]

#stopthesymetrichype #theyrenot


the only proper symetrical colorway is HHKB's layout, otherwise the original fits better

But HHKB `~ key (extreme top right) is the same colour as the alphas, whereas Esc (extreme top left) is the same colour as the modifiers.

Hence classic layout (NOT symmetrical) is correct

[bazh]

#stopthesymetrichype #theyrenot


the only proper symetrical colorway is HHKB's layout, otherwise the original fits better

But HHKB `~ key (extreme top right) is the same colour as the alphas, whereas Esc (extreme top left) is the same colour as the modifiers.

Hence classic layout (NOT symmetrical) is correct

I realize people like to  use Ecs as a decorating place so that might not be the problem though

[JaccoW]

|\ key should ALWAYS match alphas. Always. ~` key as well.

Don't talk to me about symmetry, you uncouth heathens.

jd laying down the truth   

It seriously makes my eye twitch when blackslash and tilde are the same base color as the mods

+1 because they are not modifiers.

Simple as that.

Define modifier...  Tab, Backspace and Enter are not modifiers either (technically).  They only have single actions and do not modify the behavior of any other key.  SOOO...  If you are going to so loosely define modifiers, I think I should get some leeway on the keys that are in the grouping you are calling 'modifiers'. 

Good point!

Keys that generate a new character on the screen should be one colour.

Other keys that have special functions should be a different colour.  Many (most) of those special keys modify the functionality of the first group of keys, and thus are generally referred to as modifiers.

Numpad - most of my keyboards are TKL or smaller, however from a numerical perspective, the digits represent a number, and the other keys modify that number.  That's kinda weak, but at least more or less consistent with the other thing I said above.

One vote for:
~`
^6
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-keys in Modifier colours!

Ït wõùld ónly bê fàír

[cjhard]

It's not so much a matter of modifier vs not modifier, only such that some keys are traditionally printing characters, and some keys are traditionally non-printing characters, and you separate them as such. If you really wanted a full set, you'd be demanding home/end/etc clusters, function keys, and proper numpad support, but the kit wouldn't be 35 EUR then, now would it?