Author Topic: IBM Model F 122-key terminal under $100 shipped on ebay (Read 10143 times)

fohat.digs · « **on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:00:14 »

Get it while it's hot

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Clicky-Keyboard-Vintage-Model-F-6110347-Aug-85-Rare-Keyboard-Free-Ship-/291381208640?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:3160

Lurch · « **Reply #1 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:26:00 »

She's a beaut.

Would make a great resto project.

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #2 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:26:44 »

He will take $75

I can't do it, I've spent way too much this week already.

JPG · « **Reply #3 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:28:00 »

This is a very great deal and an awesome keyboard. If you like full size keyboards, this is the one to get!

Defect · « **Reply #4 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 12:43:00 »

Thanks. Getting one.

Lurch · « **Reply #5 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:01:58 »

Took my offer of $75

Thanks for sharing

Touch_It · « **Reply #6 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:02:29 »

grumble grumble. Boards need to stop popping up when I can't have them

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Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #7 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:05:05 »

oh please...

will die if i don't get the last one

will literally die

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #8 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:12:22 »

did i mention this is the last BS board i'll ever need to buy?

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #9 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:12:47 »

F5 F5 F5

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #10 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:13:20 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:12:22

did i mention this is the last BS board i'll ever need to buy?

Then hurry up and buy it already.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #11 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:15:37 »

I would have loved to get one, but sometimes it gets ridiculous.

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:17:11 »

**** it... paid the full 90... couldn't wait for him to accept the 75

still a deal

calming down... whew...

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:19:33 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:17:11

**** it... paid the full 90... couldn't wait for him to accept the 75

still a deal

calming down... whew...

dang it clib....i could have bought it and had it shipped to you.....i had a pending $75 counter-offer

jdcarpe · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:19:46 »

Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:15:37

I would have loved to get one, but sometimes it gets ridiculous.

Yeah, same here. If only that price (and those keyboards) had been around before I paid a stupid amount to get that broken one from taobao.

And can't forget the eBay fiasco with the Canadian seller who sent me an M-122...

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:20:17 »

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:19:33

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:17:11
**** it... paid the full 90... couldn't wait for him to accept the 75

still a deal

calming down... whew...

dang it clib....i could have bought it and had it shipped to you.....i had a pending $75 offer

so did i... but i just couldn't wait... if i lost it... i would have never forgiven myself...

so it's an extra 15 bucks... i'll just eat cheaply for a week...

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #16 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:20:54 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:20:17

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:19:33
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:17:11
**** it... paid the full 90... couldn't wait for him to accept the 75

still a deal

calming down... whew...

dang it clib....i could have bought it and had it shipped to you.....i had a pending $75 offer

so did i... but i just couldn't wait... if i lost it... i would have never forgiven myself...

I meant counter offer like pay now kind of thing...

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #17 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:21:58 »

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:20:54

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:20:17
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:19:33
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:17:11
**** it... paid the full 90... couldn't wait for him to accept the 75

still a deal

calming down... whew...

dang it clib....i could have bought it and had it shipped to you.....i had a pending $75 offer

so did i... but i just couldn't wait... if i lost it... i would have never forgiven myself...

I meant counter offer like pay now kind of thing...

doh!

oh well... too late...

it's done...

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #18 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:28:03 »

I'm amazed it took as long as it did for those three to sell.

Defect · « **Reply #19 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 14:06:38 »

They are untested so here's to hope and luck.

Also...

70

Touch_It · « **Reply #20 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 14:08:30 »

They are untested but I would guess 95+ percent are and would be deadly surprised if they didn't work

orihalcon · « **Reply #21 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 18:55:08 »

Quote from: Touch_It on Fri, 13 February 2015, 14:08:30

They are untested but I would guess 95+ percent are and would be deadly surprised if they didn't work

Don't forget, you can always put an Xwhatsit in them if the original controller was bad for whatever reason.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 19:03:22 »

Quote from: Touch_It on Fri, 13 February 2015, 14:08:30

They are untested but I would guess 95+ percent are and would be deadly surprised if they didn't work

Of at least a dozen F-122s that have passed through my hands, only 2 did not work.
One was mine, but, unfortunately, one belonged to someone else and he was very disappointed.

Touch_It · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 19:05:56 »

Ok maybe I was a bit optimistic. However do you know what was wrong? Just out of curiosity.

fohat.digs · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 19:13:45 »

Quote from: Touch_It on Fri, 13 February 2015, 19:05:56

However do you know what was wrong?

No, but I did bring one back to life that was killed by a milkshake or a syrupy alcoholic drink (can't remember which) being spilled into it.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 20:07:19 »

Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 13 February 2015, 19:03:22

Quote from: Touch_It on Fri, 13 February 2015, 14:08:30
They are untested but I would guess 95+ percent are and would be deadly surprised if they didn't work

Of at least a dozen F-122s that have passed through my hands, only 2 did not work.
One was mine, but, unfortunately, one belonged to someone else and he was very disappointed.

I have some great news, I got the beast working just this instant! Using an xwhatsit replacement controller.

No longer disappointed.

Touch_It · « **Reply #26 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 20:07:52 »

Haha awesome!

jdcarpe · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 20:22:08 »

Man oh man, I'm so stoked right now! fohat.digs did an ANSI mod to the 122 for me, replaced the mat, and painted the barrel plate and the top case. Now it works with this new controller. fohat.digs does excellent work, my friends.

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fohat.digs · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 13 February 2015, 21:04:13 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 February 2015, 20:07:19

I got the beast working just this instant! Using an xwhatsit replacement controller.

Excellent! I had been feeling bad about that one all along, wondering if it was something I did.

Lurch · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:02:33 »

Just got mine and it is a M-122...

Anyone else get theirs yet?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #30 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:07:58 »

Quote from: Lurch on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:02:33

Just got mine and it is a M-122...

Anyone else get theirs yet?

Ouch. Sorry that happened to you, too. I hate that these sellers are doing this. I was hoping I would be the only one to get burned like this. It's probably more likely to happen when the seller has multiple units for sale. That's what happened to me. Several people got F-122s, but the seller shipped me an M-122, because he thought they were 'basically the same.' This was over a year ago.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #31 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:09:52 »

Quote from: Lurch on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:02:33

Just got mine and it is a M-122...

Anyone else get theirs yet?

Ouch. I'm going to guess this is an honest mistake on the seller's part.

If you look in the first picture of the listing you can see an M above the board being photographed...

Lurch · « **Reply #32 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:22:11 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:07:58

Quote from: Lurch on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:02:33
Just got mine and it is a M-122...

Anyone else get theirs yet?

Ouch. Sorry that happened to you, too. I hate that these sellers are doing this. I was hoping I would be the only one to get burned like this. It's probably more likely to happen when the seller has multiple units for sale. That's what happened to me. Several people got F-122s, but the seller shipped me an M-122, because he thought they were 'basically the same.' This was over a year ago.

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:09:52

Quote from: Lurch on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:02:33
Just got mine and it is a M-122...

Anyone else get theirs yet?

Ouch. I'm going to guess this is an honest mistake on the seller's part.

If you look in the first picture of the listing you can see an M above the board being photographed...

Thanks for the replies fellas. This sucks, but it could be worse. I'm going to request a refund and see where things go from there.

Defect · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:27:39 »

Now I'm worried...anyone else here get an M instead of F?

fohat.digs · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:55:57 »

Quote from: Defect on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:27:39

anyone else here get an M instead of F?

There was at least one F in the photo and he listed a very specific model number.

orihalcon · « **Reply #35 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:36:51 »

Well, with ebay, you are guaranteed to be covered the full item cost including the return shipping if the completely wrong item it received whether the seller agrees or not. Best to contact them first though rather than opening an "item not as described" case. They may also have the correct keyboard that they can exchange it for.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #36 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:39:22 »

Actually, unless it has changed, you have to pay return shipping. They refund your original price including shipping, but you have to pay to return it. But maybe this has changed.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #37 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:45:04 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:39:22

Actually, unless it has changed, you have to pay return shipping. They refund your original price including shipping, but you have to pay to return it. But maybe this has changed.

You don't have to pay return shipping if the item is not as described, regardless of what the seller claims as their return policy.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/return-item.html#shipping-charges

jdcarpe · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:48:26 »

Ah good, so they changed it. When I received the M-122, I was expected to pay return shipping to Canada in order to get the refund.

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #39 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:01 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:48:26

Ah good, so they changed it. When I received the M-122, I was expected to pay return shipping to Canada in order to get the refund.

Policy has been that way since at least 2012.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #40 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:56:21 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:01

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:48:26
Ah good, so they changed it. When I received the M-122, I was expected to pay return shipping to Canada in order to get the refund.

Policy has been that way since at least 2012.

From eBay support, when I opened the case:

"Hi XXXXXXXXXX,

We let the seller know the item wasn't as described.
The seller has offered you a full refund for the purchase price plus original shipping if you return the item. To get your refund, ship the item back to the seller. You will need to cover the cost of returning the item. Make sure you ship the item by Jan 27, 2014.

Refund information:
Once the item is delivered to the seller, you will receive a full refund of $78.00.The refund will include the purchase price plus original shipping.

You can view the details of this case and learn what you need to do to ship the item back in the Resolution Center."

E TwentyNine · « **Reply #41 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:09:37 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:56:21

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:01
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:48:26
Ah good, so they changed it. When I received the M-122, I was expected to pay return shipping to Canada in order to get the refund.

Policy has been that way since at least 2012.

From eBay support, when I opened the case:
...
You will need to cover the cost of returning the item. Make sure you ship the item by Jan 27, 2014.
...

Wouldn't be the first time support was clueless. From July 17, 2012:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120717164049/http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/return-item.html

"If you're returning an item because it isn't as described in the listing, the seller is responsible for return shipping charges."

jdcarpe · « **Reply #42 on:** Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:15:36 »

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:09:37

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:56:21
Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:01
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:48:26
Ah good, so they changed it. When I received the M-122, I was expected to pay return shipping to Canada in order to get the refund.

Policy has been that way since at least 2012.

From eBay support, when I opened the case:
...
You will need to cover the cost of returning the item. Make sure you ship the item by Jan 27, 2014.
...

Wouldn't be the first time support was clueless. From July 17, 2012:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120717164049/http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/return-item.html

"If you're returning an item because it isn't as described in the listing, the seller is responsible for return shipping charges."

I even called them on the phone and explained why it was dumb of them to ask me to cover return shipping for the seller's mistake. They wouldn't budge. In the end, I just worked out a partial refund with the seller, and kept the M-122.

I'm so glad they have a clear policy on returns now.

Lurch · « **Reply #43 on:** Sat, 21 February 2015, 10:17:04 »

I requested a refund from the seller. They got back to me saying it was most likely an error in shipping, and they would be re-sending the correct model. I got a tracking number for the replacement last night.

Fingers crossed!

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #44 on:** Sat, 21 February 2015, 10:22:10 »

they still haven't gotten back to me yet... got an M-122 also...

there is no way it was an error in shipping... they had one F, made a cheap listing for multiple Fs, and sent out Ms instead...

especially considering the images in the listing clearly showed Model F, along with Model F (with model #s) in the descriptions, and the difference between Model M and F being instantly recognizable... this ebay seller was trying to rip us off...

1391406 · « **Reply #45 on:** Sat, 21 February 2015, 13:52:52 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:15:36

Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:09:37
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:56:21
Quote from: E TwentyNine on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:52:01
Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 13:48:26
Ah good, so they changed it. When I received the M-122, I was expected to pay return shipping to Canada in order to get the refund.

Policy has been that way since at least 2012.

From eBay support, when I opened the case:
...
You will need to cover the cost of returning the item. Make sure you ship the item by Jan 27, 2014.
...

Wouldn't be the first time support was clueless. From July 17, 2012:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120717164049/http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/return-item.html

"If you're returning an item because it isn't as described in the listing, the seller is responsible for return shipping charges."

I even called them on the phone and explained why it was dumb of them to ask me to cover return shipping for the seller's mistake. They wouldn't budge. In the end, I just worked out a partial refund with the seller, and kept the M-122.

I'm so glad they have a clear policy on returns now.

I just got off the phone with eBay regarding another issue and brought this up during the conversation as a side topic. The rep I spoke to was very clear about it. If an item is not as described in the listing then the seller is responsible for return shipping. However, if a buyer simply doesn't want an item after receiving it, then return shipping is the responsibility of the buyer. Needless to say the rep you spoke to was misinformed.

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #46 on:** Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:38:21 »

aaaand i still haven't heard anything from the seller...

Lurch · « **Reply #47 on:** Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:53:50 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:38:21

aaaand i still haven't heard anything from the seller...

Sucks to hear that, man.

I don't mean to salt the wound, but I received my replacement Model F 122-key this morning. Dirty as all hell, but definitely a Model F.

Hopefully the seller gets back to you soon with either a refund or a replacement...

Quote from: Defect on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:27:39

Now I'm worried...anyone else here get an M instead of F?

Did you get yours?

Defect · « **Reply #48 on:** Mon, 23 February 2015, 15:05:21 »

Quote from: Lurch on Mon, 23 February 2015, 10:53:50

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:38:21
aaaand i still haven't heard anything from the seller...

Sucks to hear that, man.

I don't mean to salt the wound, but I received my replacement Model F 122-key this morning. Dirty as all hell, but definitely a Model F.

Hopefully the seller gets back to you soon with either a refund or a replacement...

Quote from: Defect on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:27:39
Now I'm worried...anyone else here get an M instead of F?

Did you get yours?

Checking this weekend.

I have more than one address.

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:20:14 »

Seller did contact me and sent the Model F. Just got it today.

Gave the seller a good rating cause I got to keep the Model M.

Next step, build converters for both of them...

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Author Topic: IBM Model F 122-key terminal under $100 shipped on ebay (Read 10143 times)