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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 04:37:42 »
I would love two assembled...hopefully I'm not late to the party too.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 04:51:16 »
If possible, I would like on assembled. Will there be Poker 2 compatible plates at some point as well or anywhere I can get such a thing?  :D
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 14:51:05 »
This is exactly what I've been looking for. I'd be in for one assembled! Thanks :)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 00:15:51 »
I updated design and this will be final hopefully. I'm inquiring a PCB manufacturer whether my design can be acceptable to their service. I'll order it if they say ok.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 00:31:41 »
So, if the chart in OP is correct, my order would bring it to a round 20?

In a year I'm going to regret doing this but ... I'm going to request one. PCB only, I've got all the components here.

Since I just barely hopped off the fence and am now leaning against it, if it would be easier to ignore my order instead, I'd accept that too.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 00:50:05 »
FWIW, the Dell AT101W (and likely AT101 and SGI AT101) use a stepped lock key that's "1.5x key with a .25x step on the side" for positioning.  Some old Acer boards with compatible keycaps also use this position, and I also got this size on a Datacomp ADB board.

Cherry stepped lock keys, for comparison, are typically "1.25x key with .5x step"
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 01:45:44 »
I'll order ten boards in first revision to minimize risk of ditching money unreasonably.  I'll take nine participants from top of the list.(I think some will change mind and be out this buy, this is why the list is longer than nine) If I embed any stupid mistake in my design I'll have to go with next revision. Perhaps, after this group buy I may make more boards if threre is enough demand but I'll take more reasonable margin for my work in that case. While in this group buy I'll minimize margin to respect risktakers.


Hak Foo, thanks for the information. I think photo Bueller posted above shows  "1.5x key with a .25x step on the side" one and I added support for it. I didn't know Cherry stepped key is different from Alps one. Good to know.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 06:59:59 »
Got reply from PCB guy and they requires extra $16 for my design(two cut outs for screw on side edge), this means price of PCB will be increased by around $2.

And I found a serious problem on space bar switch position, if I overlooked this mistake 104key layout like Dell 101W and V60MTS would lose support. I'll take more time to check my design again before order.

As for stepped  Capslock I added 1.50/0.25 stepped key(Dell/SGI 101/101W) in addition to Non-stepped(AEK, Omnikey, V60, Infinity). I didn't find Alps 1.25/0.5 stepped key yet so far, as far as I skimmed through this SKCM keybaord list randomly. I won't add its support unless existense of the key is confirmed.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 07:07:44 »
Got reply from PCB guy and they requires extra $16 for my design(two cut outs for screw on side edge), this means price of PCB will be increased by around $2.

And I found a serious problem on space bar switch position, if I overlooked this mistake 104key layout like Dell 101W and V60MTS would lose support. I'll take more time to check my design again before order.

As for stepped  Capslock I added 1.50/0.25 stepped key(Dell/SGI 101/101W) in addition to Non-stepped(AEK, Omnikey, V60, Infinity). I didn't find Alps 1.25/0.5 stepped key yet so far, as far as I skimmed through this SKCM keybaord list randomly. I won't add its support unless existense of the key is confirmed.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Keyboards_with_Alps_SKCL/SKCM_switches

Awesome man, thanks for all your hard work :)
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 09:33:39 »
Hasu,
This is a great design. If it's not too late, please put me down for 1 assembled. Very cool GB!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:35:47 »
I'd be down for a PCB with components!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 17 March 2015, 10:40:34 »
Yeee I'm excited. Thanks again for including me hasu!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 01:07:31 »
What micro controller is used? At90usb162?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:07:47 »
Yeee I'm excited. Thanks again for including me hasu!

My thoughts exactly. Thank you hasu.


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:05:33 »
God damn.  Contemplating getting one assembled as I want to build my own keyboard (half-way).


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:21:13 »
What micro controller is used? At90usb162?
It's the ATMega32U2 (if not changed since this thread, don't have the software to check)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 21 March 2015, 20:46:50 »
If there's still room, I'd be interested in a 'raw with components'.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 23 March 2015, 12:16:18 »
Placed order! Once they accept my design I'll PM invoices.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 23 March 2015, 12:22:19 »
Placed order! Once they accept my design I'll PM invoices.

Great news, I'm looking forward to it.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 23 March 2015, 20:58:46 »
Excited for this buy!
Even if it doesn't work, I have admittedly spent more on a poutine than what I could lose out of this.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 01:42:26 »
The board house accepted my design. I sent invoices to top nine people on the list.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 01:47:42 »
Paid and thanks again.  Looking forward to this.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 02:53:48 »
Payment made  :thumb:
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« Reply #73 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 03:05:29 »
Payment made, thanks :)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 03:25:55 »
Paid, thank you!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 09:11:33 »
Thank you hasu. Money has been sent!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 09:18:54 »
Just paid up!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 09:43:57 »
Thanks for quick response and payment.
Updated the list in the frist post, I got paid 7 out of 9, already.

Now our boards is in prodction, keep your fingers crossed :D
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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 09:57:53 »
Paid!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:28:30 »
I've been AFK on a trip. Just saw the invoice an hour ago. I'll pay tonight hasu. Sorry for the wait.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:49:51 »
No problem at all. Thanks for your reply.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 13:41:01 »
Is it still possible to get in on this? I'd love a raw PCB with components if so!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 13:43:51 »
Is it still possible to get in on this? I'd love a raw PCB with components if so!

Well the initial 9 people were let into the buy just because there is a risk that the PCB may be a dud.
Hasu just doesn't want to collect over a thousand dollars for PCBs that don't work I guess.
Perhaps there will be more interest in doing a full run of these if they turn out fine.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 14:08:09 »
If this turns out well and more orders can be placed I will likely purchase one


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 20:31:08 »
Got paid for all of nine PCBs, very quick! Thanks much, paticipants.
What we can do is only waiting now. I'll post once I get the package.

Whether second run of the GB happens depens on how difficult soldering process is to me. If it is too difficult or time consuming I'll not do this again.
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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:14:44 »
I would also be interested in 1 or 2 if this runs again. And don't worry, mine will be bare PCB for DIY so no worry about having to solder  :)

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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:48:05 »
Ditto. I have no problem doing the soldering myself.

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« Reply #87 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 00:25:09 »
Fingers & toes crossed for ya. If this continues to another round, i may jump in too.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #88 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 13:12:29 »
I'll cross mine too. I have this urge for orange alps in a 60%.

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« Reply #89 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:02:19 »
Whether second run of the GB happens depens on how difficult soldering process is to me. If it is too difficult or time consuming I'll not do this again.

If the PCB works, I'd throw down for a DIY only run.

Also, by the way, thanks for your amazing ADB firmware!

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« Reply #90 on: Wed, 25 March 2015, 14:36:56 »
Would you send me a message if you end up making more of them? Still interested!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 03:09:19 »
Hasu, if assembly is too problematic or time consuming for you, I have no problem assembling it my self. Just let me know, I can take the raw + components if that is the case. :)

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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 20:29:23 »
If these work I'll buy one next round.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #93 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 16:25:06 »
Thanks for your interest, all. I'm not sure about second run but I'll skim this thread to make a list if it happens.

Applet, thank you. I'll let you know if I need.

I got a mail from manufacturer today and this pic was attached. They will be delivered to me in a few days.
Still keep your fingers crossed!


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #94 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 16:41:23 »
Uuuuuu, keeping my fingers crossed :D Bought a Dell board just for this :)
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #95 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 18:01:23 »
Thanks for your interest, all. I'm not sure about second run but I'll skim this thread to make a list if it happens.

Applet, thank you. I'll let you know if I need.

I got a mail from manufacturer today and this pic was attached. They will be delivered to me in a few days.
Still keep your fingers crossed!


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Hi Hasu! Is it ok if  I sent your designs to a PCB house to get one for myself? Also, are you cutting up a plate from another alps board?
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #96 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 18:30:19 »
Count me in for a second run. Just getting into the Alps scene!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 18:53:51 »
I'd most likely get another if there's a second run. How can I be satisfied with only one??

@nandop: I'll be posting an interest check soon for 60% Alps plates.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:03:03 »
I would be definitely in for a 2 PCBs in the second run.  I love alps switches!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #99 on: Sun, 29 March 2015, 12:22:13 »
Very nice, Hasu!
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