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Offline ramuklanuk

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 00:10:10 »
I'll be there :)

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #101 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 02:50:11 »
@jacobolus - shall I bring your Japanese word processor?

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 02:54:46 »
My current plan is to bring:

* Datahand
* µTron
* Keyboardio Model 01
* Keyboardio Symmetric60

* Maybe the Space Cadet or Fingerworks Touchstream if anyone wants me to.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 03:24:24 »
I forgot my HHKB at work...

I'll bring mine. Think my friends have decided we will sleep in and take the 12:00 train, so we should be there a little before 2. Save some food for us :P

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #104 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 06:03:50 »
I ended up crashing in the city. Which unfortunately means my Kingsaver didn't make it.

- KMAC 1.1 or 1.2 I can't remember with Cherry MX ergo clears
- Novatouch w/ SA caps
- SA caps for a Royal Kludge side by side
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #105 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 09:28:11 »
Anyone have thoughts on the best way to get there from BART?

I'll bring my Infinity I think, it's got Gateron Clears, which isn't the most common switch type, and it's small so it's portable.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #106 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 10:16:25 »
Where to park? On the street? At github? Elsewhere?
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 10:26:50 »
Anyone have thoughts on the best way to get there from BART?

I'll bring my Infinity I think, it's got Gateron Clears, which isn't the most common switch type, and it's small so it's portable.

You can get off at Montomery or Powell, Montgomery is probably a slightly shorter walk, then head south on 2nd street. When you get to 2nd and Brannan cross to the south side of the street and turn bayward on Brannan and you'll be walking past a public storage and then a grey building (that's HQ!). The entrance is down the first small street, Colin P Kelly Jr and there's a big Octocat mark



I forgot to PM everyone my phone number so I'll do that right now.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #108 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 10:27:53 »
Where to park? On the street? At github? Elsewhere?

We have only two reserved spots and I need to save them for coworkers who want to come in today. There is metered parking on Brannan St but beyond that I have no idea.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #109 on: Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:25:53 »
Might be a few minutes late, just hit first SF station now and I'm a slow walker.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #110 on: Sun, 26 April 2015, 00:18:49 »
Great turnout today. Nice to see everyone again.

nuclearsandwich: thanks a million for hosting us all!

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 26 April 2015, 01:21:34 »
This event was amazing! Thanks to everyone for generously letting us play with the boards. Especially those who schlepped large, cumbersome collections. Transportating HaTaa's collection could be an Olympic sport.

And double triple thanks to nuclearsandwich and GitHub for the fantastic and generous hosting.

This was my first kiibohd meet up and it was really wonderful :)
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 26 April 2015, 07:39:41 »
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 26 April 2015, 10:45:45 »
OMGosh did not expect the turnout we had yesterday! We didn't take a formal headcount but we had rough counts between 45 and 50 all total!  :eek: :eek: :eek:

That's incredible.

Thanks everyone for coming. My apologies if I didn't get to meet or hang out with you because of how busy things were. I did my best to meet as many of y'all as I could. If you had a great time, I am delighted! Tell your friends! If you had any problems or trouble with anything or anyone at the venue, please let me know via your preferred private channel. PM, email, phone number, whatever, just make sure I know what was no good. If at some point this weekend I was part of the problem, PM HaaTa or lekashman and let one of them know.

Still blown away. Those who had time to take pictures, I can't want to see them.

Cheers,
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 27 April 2015, 04:39:59 »
Had a great time Saturday, it was fantastic meeting everyone again/for the first time and seeing all the great boards. :D

Obra stop making me want all your keyboards. :< First the butterfly now that symmetric stagger one, want both so bad rofl.

Oh, I found an article on the layout used on the Japanese keyboard with the thumb shifts, I totally forgot the name of the guy I talked to who had it because I am bad at names, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumb-shift_keyboard (And hah, I was right on the right long key being space. Reasonable place for it given the language.)

So it's a little like we were thinking, and there's actually a couple of versions of thumb shifting, but I think I recall yours having 半濁点 keys and not having three kana marked on any so it's probably more like the original and not the NiCOLA variant(Which actually makes a little more sense, but).

So we'll take an example key, same one used as example here: http://museum.ipsj.or.jp/computer/word/0006.html (There's an English version of that page but the images are broken so I'll just explain it here.)

So, は on the bottom and み on the top. This one's a good example since there's actually four Japanese characters you can type with this key: は(ha), み(mi), ば(ba), and ぱ(pa). So this key is on the right side of the keyboard, which affects which shifts you use for what. So to type the bottom character, は, you just hit the key. To type the top character, み, you hit the right shift and the key. For a key on the other side of the keyboard typed by the left hand, you would use the left shift to shift to the secondary character.

There's a very deliberate pattern to which characters are on top and which are on the bottom - Besides frequency of use, none of the top characters accessed through shifting have a voiced or semi-voiced version. So here's where cross-shifting comes in. Some characters in hirigana(and also katakana) are formed by taking another character and adding dakuten(voiced) or handakuten(semi-voiced) marks to them. These look like double quote and degree symbols respectively, but the main thing is it's diacritic marks, like adding an umlaut to an o changes its pronunciation. Voiced characters are typed by using the opposite side shift and the base character - So left shift and は give us ば.

The fourth character comes from the keys where shift is on a western board in the original implementation. One of those and our は key gives us ぱ, the final Japanese character here. There are far fewer of those, just the 'h' series of kana(は, ひ, ふ, へ, ほ). The semivoiced versions barely appear in native Japanese and are mostly found in loan words. The NiCOLA variant drops the handakuten keys and moves those five characters to keys where the bottom character doesn't have a voiced version, where they're accessed just like the voiced characters, with the opposite shift.

Looking at it it's actually an absolutely brilliant system of doing it rather than JIS's mess or worse typing romaji. Sort of a Japanese equivalent of using something like Colemak or Dvorak instead of the mess of Qwerty. (Shifting with the thumbs is brilliant for the language, as space isn't used very much compared to western languages so there's no reason to have a big huge button in prime real estate. Not that there is for English either. The spacebar is a revolting waste of space. :P (Hmm, center a shift and you can shift most of the keys on the board with it and one hand. I spend so much time in keyboard layout editor.)
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #115 on: Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:46:02 »
OMGosh did not expect the turnout we had yesterday! We didn't take a formal headcount but we had rough counts between 45 and 50 all total!  :eek: :eek: :eek:

That's incredible.

Thanks everyone for coming. My apologies if I didn't get to meet or hang out with you because of how busy things were. I did my best to meet as many of y'all as I could. If you had a great time, I am delighted! Tell your friends! If you had any problems or trouble with anything or anyone at the venue, please let me know via your preferred private channel. PM, email, phone number, whatever, just make sure I know what was no good. If at some point this weekend I was part of the problem, PM HaaTa or lekashman and let one of them know.

Still blown away. Those who had time to take pictures, I can't want to see them.

Cheers,
Steven!/nuclearsandwich

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #116 on: Mon, 27 April 2015, 17:57:29 »
Im waiting for the next one! I am hopping I can attend, really jealous I could not make it this weekend.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #117 on: Mon, 27 April 2015, 18:43:12 »
I've already organized a location for the next one, will make an announcement in the next few days (no theme planned yet, suggestions?).
For logistics reasons, I'm likely going to need some sort of formalized signup form so I can keep track of people (worst case have a computer to sign up with at the door) and plan for future meetups.

We've long outgrown some of our earlier venues (like TechShop and WASD Keyboards).

I'm always interested in new locations for meetups. The current regular rotation includes:
  • 724Support (samwisekoi)
  • GitHub (nuclearsandwich)
  • Massdrop

My goals for a meetup locations:
  • Free, I don't have any money (for venues) and I don't want to accept any donations or collect admissions
  • Preferably related to a community/attendee (logistics are much easier)
  • Not the same place every time (organizing these meetups are quite a bit of work for the hosts)

Some of the usual perks (free food, drinks, adult beverages) are entirely up to the venue if they want to sponsor. Massdrop also has a habit of having free keyboard loot too.


Also, to be clear (if anyone cares). I run these meetups as a community member, not on behalf of my company (Input Club). Anything labelled "Kiibohd" is community/opensource oriented. Any presentations I give will be either be marked with the Kiibohd or Input Club logo depending on what it is. I might use the meetups to make product announcements or locate beta testers.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 14:49:57 »
I've already organized a location for the next one, will make an announcement in the next few days (no theme planned yet, suggestions?).
For logistics reasons, I'm likely going to need some sort of formalized signup form so I can keep track of people (worst case have a computer to sign up with at the door) and plan for future meetups.

We've long outgrown some of our earlier venues (like TechShop and WASD Keyboards).

I'm always interested in new locations for meetups. The current regular rotation includes:
  • 724Support (samwisekoi)
  • GitHub (nuclearsandwich)
  • Massdrop

My goals for a meetup locations:
  • Free, I don't have any money (for venues) and I don't want to accept any donations or collect admissions
  • Preferably related to a community/attendee (logistics are much easier)
  • Not the same place every time (organizing these meetups are quite a bit of work for the hosts)

Some of the usual perks (free food, drinks, adult beverages) are entirely up to the venue if they want to sponsor. Massdrop also has a habit of having free keyboard loot too.


Also, to be clear (if anyone cares). I run these meetups as a community member, not on behalf of my company (Input Club). Anything labelled "Kiibohd" is community/opensource oriented. Any presentations I give will be either be marked with the Kiibohd or Input Club logo depending on what it is. I might use the meetups to make product announcements or locate beta testers.

Ill keep my eye open for look locations on San Jose State Campus. Theres got to be a good spot here somewhere. Excited for the next one!

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:07:59 »
I've already organized a location for the next one, will make an announcement in the next few days (no theme planned yet, suggestions?).
For logistics reasons, I'm likely going to need some sort of formalized signup form so I can keep track of people (worst case have a computer to sign up with at the door) and plan for future meetups.

We've long outgrown some of our earlier venues (like TechShop and WASD Keyboards).

I'm always interested in new locations for meetups. The current regular rotation includes:
  • 724Support (samwisekoi)
  • GitHub (nuclearsandwich)
  • Massdrop

My goals for a meetup locations:
  • Free, I don't have any money (for venues) and I don't want to accept any donations or collect admissions
  • Preferably related to a community/attendee (logistics are much easier)
  • Not the same place every time (organizing these meetups are quite a bit of work for the hosts)

Some of the usual perks (free food, drinks, adult beverages) are entirely up to the venue if they want to sponsor. Massdrop also has a habit of having free keyboard loot too.


Also, to be clear (if anyone cares). I run these meetups as a community member, not on behalf of my company (Input Club). Anything labelled "Kiibohd" is community/opensource oriented. Any presentations I give will be either be marked with the Kiibohd or Input Club logo depending on what it is. I might use the meetups to make product announcements or locate beta testers.

Maybe use Google Docs for signups? I was in Tahoe this past weekend, otherwise I would have attended! Alas. Next month  :thumb:

Here are pics of my trip while I wait for pics of the meetup.


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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:10:28 »
Says there's 40-50 people at meetup, no pictures of keyboards.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #121 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 18:11:17 »
Says there's 40-50 people at meetup, no pictures of keyboards.

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We were all too busy hanging out to take one I guess.  :p

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 18:53:58 »
There were definitely a number of big ass cameras there. No idea where or when the photos will be up. Or even to whom they belonged.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 29 April 2015, 19:54:35 »
There were definitely a number of big ass cameras there. No idea where or when the photos will be up. Or even to whom they belonged.

I took many phone shots which I will post soon. Promise :)
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 30 April 2015, 18:34:24 »
Says there's 40-50 people at meetup, no pictures of keyboards.

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I still don't believe this actually happened without pics.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #125 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 00:20:40 »
Says there's 40-50 people at meetup, no pictures of keyboards.

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I still don't believe this actually happened without pics.

Your'e just going to have to move out to the bay area and hang out with all 50 of us to see it for yourself.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 09:40:29 »
Says there's 40-50 people at meetup, no pictures of keyboards.

* CPTBadAss has a sad

I still don't believe this actually happened without pics.

Your'e just going to have to move out to the bay area and hang out with all 50 of us to see it for yourself.

I'll apply this weekend for that tech support job nuclear sandwich linked a page or two ago.  Wonder if somebody has a hole in the ground I can rent for a reasonable rate.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:00:17 »
Still waiting on photos... :mad:

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #128 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:56:39 »
I'll post mine now. I didn't take many pictures w/ people in them; most of them are from before the crowd arrived.


« Last Edit: Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:22:17 by rsadek »
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 19:57:20 »
!??? GH! Why u rotate my pictures!?  :eek:
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All fixed  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:22:48 by rsadek »
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #130 on: Fri, 01 May 2015, 22:16:04 »
i think i really should come next time

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 02 May 2015, 00:13:17 »
i think i really should come next time

We would love to have you!

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 03 May 2015, 06:25:55 »
Space Cadet and uTron in the same pic...that's probably one of the more expensive photos ever :D.

Still needs more pictures though :D.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #133 on: Sun, 03 May 2015, 09:08:19 »
Now I believe.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 04 May 2015, 01:34:16 »
Space Cadet and uTron in the same pic...that's probably one of the more expensive photos ever :D.

Still needs more pictures though :D.

Yeah, most of the pictures I took were of the Space Cadet but obra already put detailed photos on flickr of it.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/obra/sets/72157635353286814/

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 06 May 2015, 21:25:58 »
Aww wish I had known about this... Anyone know when the next meetup will happen?
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 06 May 2015, 21:44:34 »
Aww wish I had known about this... Anyone know when the next meetup will happen?

Found it, May 30th is the tentative date. No location as of yet.

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 06 May 2015, 21:50:42 »
So, I'm waiting on some details/planning for the next meetup. However, there is a date and location setup.
It'll be on Jun 13th, and likely at 724Support in Mountain View.
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #138 on: Thu, 07 May 2015, 22:20:07 »
 :( won't be in the bay area the whole June

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 07 May 2015, 22:47:16 »
so this is monthly? I have to travel to SF sometimes for work, i think next in july

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 07 May 2015, 23:11:25 »
I'm gonna add some interest here.

I'll be in the bay area at least for the next few months so since I am forced to miss the Chicago one, I wanna try and make one of these.

Adding this thread to my "Notify" list  ;D

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 07 May 2015, 23:37:31 »
Not quite monthly, every 5 weeks or so (and depends a bit on my own schedule too).
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #142 on: Fri, 08 May 2015, 01:02:27 »
Sorry I forgot your name but who was I talking to about my Korean custom boards? Was it rsadek?

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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #143 on: Fri, 08 May 2015, 01:53:57 »
Sorry I forgot your name but who was I talking to about my Korean custom boards? Was it rsadek?

Yessiree! It was me!
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Re: Kiibohd 13 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2015/04/25
« Reply #144 on: Fri, 08 May 2015, 10:09:41 »
Not quite monthly, every 5 weeks or so (and depends a bit on my own schedule too).

Thats fine. I'll be sure to keep an eye on this thread! :D