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Offline hitaki

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Leopold 660c (topre 45g) activation too light?
« on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 03:39:47 »
I've historically had MX blues and hadn't noticed this problem until getting my fc660c. What happens is that I'll be resting my hands on my keyboard, reading an article, and I'll unconsciously press a little too hard (while resting fingers on keys) and see dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd or lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.

I suspect that with the MX blues, the audible click makes it obvious (plus the extra 5g to activate). With the topres, since there's no tactile 'click', I end up activating a key obliviously. This could be a problem in certain situations (if d was mapped to delete for instance)

Anyone else noticing this 'unconscious activating' with their keyboards? I have an RF 87u 55g incoming, so I'll be able to compare and see if the same issue occurs. Maybe I just have heavy fingers.



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Offline Novus

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Re: Leopold 660c (topre 45g) activation too light?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 04:20:41 »
Give it a few days you'll get used to it or sell your board :p

Offline Polymer

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Re: Leopold 660c (topre 45g) activation too light?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 04:27:47 »
If you're pressing 660c keys down far enough to actuate (and they're heavy relative to most 45g) then you must be partially pressing down your blues as well since the startup for blues is far less than what it would take to collapse the domes on your Topre...

Could be you have some really like domes since there is some variability...but that's odd..

Offline hitaki

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Re: Leopold 660c (topre 45g) activation too light?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 05:14:54 »
If you're pressing 660c keys down far enough to actuate (and they're heavy relative to most 45g) then you must be partially pressing down your blues as well since the startup for blues is far less than what it would take to collapse the domes on your Topre....

Reading a topre switch wiki entry, I noticed the following in the "Key Feel":

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You can not feel the mid-stroke actuation point.

I think with my blues, when resting my fingers, I may be lightly 'rocking'' (for lack of a better word) my fingers on the keys just above the tactile actuation point. This might come from my FPS WASD muscle memory, where I'd lightly alternate the pressure on A/D ready to alter direction quickly.

With a topre switch, if I lightly press on them, since there's no tactile actuation, you don't notice when you're actually activating the key.

I'm now testing on the fc660c vs 87u 55... when I try to activate a key as lightly as possible on the leopold, it's almost impossible to notice because the transition is very smooth. The realforce 55 definitely requires a more conscious push, and you notice when you go over that threshold.

It's not a significant problem, just something that's surprised me a few times since getting my fc660c.
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Offline Polymer

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Re: Leopold 660c (topre 45g) activation too light?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:51:20 »
Well, I know what you're talking about because I had the same problem w/ the 30g keys on a variables..you're just resting your fingers in that position and suddenly aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa comes out...

But in this case, you'd be partially pressing down on a lot of different keys because the pressure to do that on a 660c is relatively high..

Either way, you'll get used to not doing it....I haven't had a problem w/ my variable for awhile..you just get used to not doing it..