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Offline shadowku

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #300 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 11:46:32 »
No regrets but kinda upset that the media keys (Volume Up/Down/Mute) does not work in Windows; Mac only.

I have a hasu controller and my media keys work on Windows, not sure if this is well known

I have a hasu but I've been too lazy to set it up. Is it possible to make the same media keys work for both Mac and Windows? I don't want to use diff media keys depending on which OS I'm using.

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Offline shekki

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #301 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 12:41:46 »
I have a hasu but I've been too lazy to set it up. Is it possible to make the same media keys work for both Mac and Windows? I don't want to use diff media keys depending on which OS I'm using.

Not sure about mac, hopefully someone else can help. I do highly recommend trying out the hasu, full programmability is quite a luxury. And it's dumb easy to use too

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #302 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 13:06:29 »
pretty sure they use different codes for the media keys. the media keys of the stock hhkb apparently do not work on windows, so i've read.
i don't think it would be too hard to set up a toggle, to quickly switch between windows and mac compatibility.

hm, actually. maybe you can simply create fn keys that just send both codes? i assume that windows would simply ignore the mac commands, and vice versa.

edit: in keycode.h i don't actually see two sets of media keys..
edit: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/332 looks like it should just work. i really wonder why the media keys of the stock hhkb don't work on windows, did they actually do that on purpose? it's weird.
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #303 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 13:59:40 »
pretty sure they use different codes for the media keys. the media keys of the stock hhkb apparently do not work on windows, so i've read.
i don't think it would be too hard to set up a toggle, to quickly switch between windows and mac compatibility.

hm, actually. maybe you can simply create fn keys that just send both codes? i assume that windows would simply ignore the mac commands, and vice versa.

edit: in keycode.h i don't actually see two sets of media keys..
edit: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/332 looks like it should just work. i really wonder why the media keys of the stock hhkb don't work on windows, did they actually do that on purpose? it's weird.

That's awesome. Thanks a lot for that info.
Knowing that, I'll likely do the mod sooner and I'll probably hasu my FC660C too.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #304 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 17:02:59 »
Well if you donít use Emacs, donít need caps lock, donít need arrow keys, and donít need numpad, ÖÖ itís a pretty good board.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #305 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 17:12:41 »
Well if you donít use Emacs, donít need caps lock, donít need arrow keys, and donít need numpad, ÖÖ itís a pretty good board.

I write Javascript in Atom all day on this thing and it is just fine :thumb: Nice try though. Its a really versatile 60%.
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #306 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 18:01:11 »
I write Javascript in Atom all day on this thing and it is just fine :thumb: Nice try though. Its a really versatile 60%.

Writing Javascript is probably fine, I donít think the js community has the convention of using uppercase for constants, so itís safe to map ctrl on caps lock.  But still, caps lock is super useful when you want to shout at people. :))
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #307 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 18:52:10 »
Going through this feeling now. I bought mine, and it didn't "ruin" my other boards, but I definitely haven't had any desire to use them since my hhkb came in.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #308 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 21:40:01 »
I write Javascript in Atom all day on this thing and it is just fine :thumb: Nice try though. Its a really versatile 60%.

Writing Javascript is probably fine, I donít think the js community has the convention of using uppercase for constants, so itís safe to map ctrl on caps lock.  But still, caps lock is super useful when you want to shout at people. :))

Caps Lock is mapped to Fn+Tab by default. It's not like the key doesn't exist. Uppercase is used in patterns like flux and redux for actions. Once you learn to type while holding shift, the caps lock becomes pretty useless.
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #309 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 22:03:18 »
Caps Lock is mapped to Fn+Tab by default. It's not like the key doesn't exist. Uppercase is used in patterns like flux and redux for actions. Once you learn to type while holding shift, the caps lock becomes pretty useless.

Keyboard short-cuts for first order commands? Now, if the HHKB was a standard, the way of the future, something with some serious ROI, well why not? But why? I'm just mentally lazy, I guess (I know).

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #310 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 05:54:10 »
Well, double keyboards for typing lower-case and upper-case letters without Shift have been gone for a century or so already. Are you going to complain about that too, or is just the familiarity with IBM Model M layout to blame?

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #311 on: Sat, 01 July 2017, 12:47:52 »
Well, double keyboards for typing lower-case and upper-case letters without Shift have been gone for a century or so already. Are you going to complain about that too, or is just the familiarity with IBM Model M layout to blame?

Is the burden of learning a new keyboard system worth it? Can I take this knowledge and apply it to another company's products? Is it a standard? What's the point?


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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #312 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 05:25:39 »
No, most things about keyboards haven't been "worth it" for almost 50 years, because computers have enabled automation.

It takes a while, though. After all, progress happens only after old rigid people die.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #313 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 07:55:00 »
Not at all, i love my hhkb!
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #314 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 15:03:42 »
Not at all. My only HHKB related regret would be not getting a Type-S when I purchased my JIS layout board.
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #315 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 15:28:52 »
When I first got it.. I did regret a little. But now, after I modded, I LOVE IT

-55g RF Domes
-Lubed sliders Purple RF silent sliders
-PBT space bar.
-Lubed stabs and put bumpons underneath bar to help dampen the sound.
-Bumpons on the bottom to replace crappy factory ones.



The spacebar rattle was the hardest for me to over come at first.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #316 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 21:40:36 »
Two years in and I still do not regret...

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #317 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 21:55:17 »
My dad's a Topre man. He mainly uses a Realforce 104UB w/ all black blanks like a badass, but has a HHKB in all-white w/ blanks he uses for travel. I told him using blanks makes him cooler, which I think no one can deny.

As an MX man it's my fault for recommending Topre after evaluating his needs, but he seems to love them. Hell, he's written three books with them over the years (damn has it really been that long already?)

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #318 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 21:56:30 »
My dad's a Topre man. He mainly uses a Realforce 104UB w/ all black blanks like a badass, but has a HHKB in all-white w/ blanks he uses for travel. I told him using blanks makes him cooler, which I think no one can deny.

As an MX man it's my fault for recommending Topre after evaluating his needs, but he seems to love them. Hell, he's written three books with them over the years (damn has it really been that long already?)

I love my MX board and hhkb.. I think my "favorite" changes with my mood haha

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #319 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:02:49 »
I had a negative experience because my one and only Topre board was a high profile model and I hated it. MAYBE someday I'll give the HHKB a real shot.

I'm not gonna lie, lubed Pandas can only keep me hard for so many years, but my go-to daily driver is just so much better than anything else I have.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #320 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:07:06 »
I had a negative experience because my one and only Topre board was a high profile model and I hated it. MAYBE someday I'll give the HHKB a real shot.

I'm not gonna lie, lubed Pandas can only keep me hard for so many years, but my go-to daily driver is just so much better than anything else I have.

I am not a huge fan of stock hhkb but I love it lubed, silenced (properly, with Type S or Purple Sliders) and with 55g domes.

It is for sure one of my favorite typing experiences

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #321 on: Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:15:57 »
I had a negative experience because my one and only Topre board was a high profile model and I hated it. MAYBE someday I'll give the HHKB a real shot.

I'm not gonna lie, lubed Pandas can only keep me hard for so many years, but my go-to daily driver is just so much better than anything else I have.

i've never tried the high profile topre caps, but i imagine they're like SA profile caps.  cool retro look but absolute trash to type with.

try HHKB.  it's a beautiful little board that's great for plopping on your laptop while on the couch.  plus clacks look great on them. :)
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #322 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 16:52:10 »
I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?

Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.

Yes, I get that people think it's great. But why?

Why do people think sex is greater than masturbation?

Because of the layout?

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #323 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 17:06:46 »
I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?

Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.

Yes, I get that people think it's great. But why?

Why do people think sex is greater than masturbation?

Because of the layout?

Because of the feeeeeeeeellllls

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #324 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 22:25:56 »
I do not regret buying a HHKB Pro 2 or a Pro 1,Realforce 89u,Realforce 87u,Realforce 104UG. But i had to sell those off because linears are my life. I spend way to much cash on Topre but i found out a while back that linear is the switch i love the most. If Topre manages to make a linear dome keyboard i will buy it even though it will probably never happen anyway.  :(
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #325 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 22:40:36 »
No regrets. I want a HHKB Bluetooth now. My HHKB feels so ancient in comparison to being cable free!
 

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #326 on: Fri, 04 January 2019, 23:17:32 »
No regrets. I want a HHKB Bluetooth now. My HHKB feels so ancient in comparison to being cable free!

i have hasu's BT controllers in both of my hhkbs.  i think the battery life and maybe connectivity is better with the official ones, but it's important for me to be able to use custom layouts since i like to use spacefn.
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #327 on: Sat, 05 January 2019, 18:21:25 »
Finally found a use for my hhkb.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #328 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 02:39:52 »
No regrets. I want a HHKB Bluetooth now. My HHKB feels so ancient in comparison to being cable free!

i have hasu's BT controllers in both of my hhkbs.  i think the battery life and maybe connectivity is better with the official ones, but it's important for me to be able to use custom layouts since i like to use spacefn.


Also want a HHKB BT now but don't want to lose the Type-s feels. Have considered a hasu controller a few times but haven't heard the best things. What's your battery life like? and do you have connection troubles?

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #329 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 03:41:38 »
No regrets. I want a HHKB Bluetooth now. My HHKB feels so ancient in comparison to being cable free!

i have hasu's BT controllers in both of my hhkbs.  i think the battery life and maybe connectivity is better with the official ones, but it's important for me to be able to use custom layouts since i like to use spacefn.


Also want a HHKB BT now but don't want to lose the Type-s feels. Have considered a hasu controller a few times but haven't heard the best things. What's your battery life like? and do you have connection troubles?

battery life has been fine for me.  i haven't kept track of exactly how long, but i can do maybe a couple of hours per night for a week without having to charge.

connection wise, they've been fine with my macbooks, but i haven't been able to pair them with my windows desktop machine.  i don't know whether the problem is with my old PC's bluetooth support (i've had issues connecting a PS4 controller before), or if it's user error because i don't really understand how to get the hasu controller to pair with more than one device at a time.
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #330 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 06:05:17 »
No regrets. I want a HHKB Bluetooth now. My HHKB feels so ancient in comparison to being cable free!

i have hasu's BT controllers in both of my hhkbs.  i think the battery life and maybe connectivity is better with the official ones, but it's important for me to be able to use custom layouts since i like to use spacefn.


Also want a HHKB BT now but don't want to lose the Type-s feels. Have considered a hasu controller a few times but haven't heard the best things. What's your battery life like? and do you have connection troubles?

battery life has been fine for me.  i haven't kept track of exactly how long, but i can do maybe a couple of hours per night for a week without having to charge.

connection wise, they've been fine with my macbooks, but i haven't been able to pair them with my windows desktop machine.  i don't know whether the problem is with my old PC's bluetooth support (i've had issues connecting a PS4 controller before), or if it's user error because i don't really understand how to get the hasu controller to pair with more than one device at a time.

Thanks, doesn't sound too bad. Getting BT devices to pair with more than one device at a time seems to be an issue for everyone, just got a set of Sony WH1000X headphones and even they seem to struggle when changing devices...

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #331 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 06:24:39 »
I write Javascript in Atom all day on this thing

You can never have enough punishment for writing JS.  :thumb:
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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #332 on: Mon, 14 January 2019, 19:29:10 »
Regret it? At first, when it was stock. I just can't stand the spacebar sound. And the spacebar stabilizer rattle? Ugghh!!

And then I lubed it. I lubed it pretty good. Now I don't use my other boards as often as I use my HHKB. It's that good.

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Re: Do you regret buying your HHKB?
« Reply #333 on: Mon, 14 January 2019, 20:16:05 »
Regret it? At first, when it was stock. I just can't stand the spacebar sound. And the spacebar stabilizer rattle? Ugghh!!

And then I lubed it. I lubed it pretty good. Now I don't use my other boards as often as I use my HHKB. It's that good.

I FINALLY have my SB silencing down. I put slightly larger bumpons next to the stock ones (under the SB), I put o-rings on the stabs on the SB and I looked the crap out of it