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Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 14:15:05 »
Great pics Lastpilot, thanks for sharing. :)

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 19:15:54 »
Nice pics man!
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 19:25:53 »
Thank you for sharing :)
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 21:38:09 »
Wow, the Bean picture really gives me an idea of how tall sasquatch Hoffman is

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 21:45:15 »
ANSON REPPING THE DIPS. SON YOU WINNING.

Houff youre too damn tall.
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 22:02:44 »
Wow!  There's some fantastic boards there!
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 22:09:32 »
75% BS board?  Whose is that?  It's definitely interesting looking.  How did it feel?

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 22:11:57 »
75% BS board?  Whose is that?  It's definitely interesting looking.  How did it feel?

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 22:12:07 »
75% BS board?  Whose is that?  It's definitely interesting looking.  How did it feel?
wcass sent that over for people to try. It's actually fully backlit too! It felt really nice, I think comparable to an F? I'm not used to comparing different BS boards so I'm not able to say much about it. But yeah dude, I liked it!

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 02:10:28 »
ANSON REPPING THE DIPS. SON YOU WINNING.
He like the way I Diddy bop, you peep that? ;)

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The wcass board was a 65%. It's weird. It's tuned to feel kinda like an F but it's got M floppies I guess? Really loved the board. Back lit, no curved plate, great layout
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:01:29 »
That "split" (spaced out) keyboard with hand-lettered key cap prints is so damn badass. Like something out of borderlands. I wantttt.
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:04:34 »
Really nice pictures! I love it. So many keyboards! Are all those boards yours or are some from people paying for your soldering services? :)

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:05:36 »
Really nice pictures! I love it. So many keyboards! Are all those boards yours or are some from people paying for your soldering services? :)
These were pictures taken from Keycon yesterday

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:21:40 »
Here is my stupid post:



I know that most of legends are handwritten - but for some reason I can't help but like it.  It really gives it a personal touch.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 15:55:31 »
nevermind.  Great thread!
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 16:03:10 »
Here is my stupid post:

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I know that most of legends are handwritten - but for some reason I can't help but like it.  It really gives it a personal touch.


Weird but funny! :)

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 18:40:17 »

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 18:44:18 »


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HODOR!


I think the big guy on the picture is HoffMan isn't he?
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 19:00:58 »
Nice pics man! You made the MA42 PCB look great.  :cool:
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 19:07:38 »
these are some great photo's, i really feel i missed out. damnit phily sucks. haha

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 19:09:13 »
these are some great photo's, i really feel i missed out. damnit phily sucks. haha
Nothing wrong with Phily! :-P

Lastpilot's pics are freaking gorgeous tho.
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 18 May 2015, 00:57:32 »
these are some great photo's, i really feel i missed out. damnit phily sucks. haha
Nothing wrong with Phily! :-P

Lastpilot's pics are freaking gorgeous tho.


Damn I can't stop admiring your avatar every times I see it! I love it. The color scheme and the drawing itself, really beautiful sir!

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 18 May 2015, 14:07:09 »
These pictures are fantastic! Way to go Lastpilot!!!  :thumb:
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 18 May 2015, 14:23:32 »
Fckin breathtaking.Brzzzzz

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:35:39 »
That "split" (spaced out) keyboard with hand-lettered key cap prints is so damn badass. Like something out of borderlands. I wantttt.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 18 May 2015, 20:02:07 »
Nice pics man! You made the MA42 PCB look great.  :cool:
Ahahaha,  that's because it does look great!

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 18 May 2015, 21:56:24 »
Great pictures!

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 19 May 2015, 11:20:18 »
Dude, I'm still obsessed with Genekid's numpad...I gotta find that PCB.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 19 May 2015, 11:22:31 »
Dude, I'm still obsessed with Genekid's numpad...I gotta find that PCB.

Geniekid's customs were so on point. Actually the customs I saw in general this weekend were so great. TheVan44, MA42, Geniekid's two boards, and Melvang's desktray AT F. :D

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 19 May 2015, 12:49:54 »
I like CPTBadAss' Dipset shirt. :P

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 19 May 2015, 12:54:51 »
I like CPTBadAss' Dipset shirt. :P

Funniest question of the day? We're in Millenium Park and a guy handing out mixtapes asked me if I was into hip hop when I was wearing that shirt.

Dipset dipset the national anthem.
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 19 May 2015, 13:49:50 »
Dude, I'm still obsessed with Genekid's numpad...I gotta find that PCB.

Geniekid's customs were so on point. Actually the customs I saw in general this weekend were so great. TheVan44, MA42, Geniekid's two boards, and Melvang's desktray AT F. :D

The MA42 from a couple of young bucks was quite impressive.

Also, theVan44 and the story behind it was wonderful.  From intimidation to belief to completion.  Inspiration for all.
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 21 May 2015, 00:04:53 »
Nice photos, looked like fun.

Toronto meetup some day soon I can only hope, heard there was one in the past.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 21 May 2015, 00:10:12 »
Wish I couldof been there! Awesome pics.

I see some familiar faces too! :D




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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 21 May 2015, 09:15:39 »
Nice photos, looked like fun.

Toronto meetup some day soon I can only hope, heard there was one in the past.

You mean like this TO meetup that's going down July 2015?

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:34:19 »
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Saweeet, artwork shots! :D Looks fun!  :)

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:25:29 »
when someone gets buckling spring keycaps, are they just the keycap covers or are the the entire cap including the stem etc? I saw what looked like artisans for a model. M maybe I am wrong?

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 12 November 2015, 21:50:19 »
Here is my stupid post:

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I know that most of legends are handwritten - but for some reason I can't help but like it.  It really gives it a personal touch.

Bit of a necro post, but still some great photos here. I like the hand drawn legends

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:32:15 »
Nice photos, looked like fun.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 07 January 2016, 00:10:43 »
Nice photos, looked like fun.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 01 February 2016, 10:56:51 »
Nice photos, looked like fun.

Toronto meetup some day soon I can only hope, heard there was one in the past.

You mean like this TO meetup that's going down July 2015?

Any word on a Keycon 2016?

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 01 February 2016, 11:08:30 »
Not yet but I'm sure there's talk of another one. I'll reach out to i3oilermaker who put on a few in Chicago and see what he's thinking.

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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:13:34 »
It's been awhile since I've seen Kyle posted here.
Any idea if he's away due to personal reasons or just plain busy?  :-\
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Re: Lastpilot Picture Thread [full size]
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 14:38:52 »
It's been awhile since I've seen Kyle posted here.
Any idea if he's away due to personal reasons or just plain busy?  :-\

I believe this thread is more appropriate to ask the question than in Keycon 2015.

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