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Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 07:44:01 »
I just want to know whats the deal with one of this CC cuz i never own one i just dont know how to buy one, and from what i heard its like sale right but how did the sale work? is it like gambling? and why do collector want to pay top money for one of this when they can get the new ones  :p

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 07:46:19 »
Everything you want to know is out there just go read it.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 08:22:11 »
It's a simple rule of demand and supply
High demand, less supply thus price goes up....
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 08:45:43 »
It's a simple rule of demand and supply
High demand, less supply thus price goes up....
and how can i get my hands on one of this CC ? is it like gambling when the sale start?

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 08:48:38 »
You can win via sales in clickclack's threads (once he gets better). Tons of info from the source here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=78.0

A couple times a year elitekeyboards.com has raffles for CHANCE to buy (usually july 4th and halloween).

You can watch ebay and the classifieds.

And you can ***** and whine here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 08:50:59 »
You can win via sales in clickclack's threads (once he gets better). Tons of info from the source here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=78.0

A couple times a year elitekeyboards.com has raffles for CHANCE to buy (usually july 4th and halloween).

You can watch ebay and the classifieds.

And you can ***** and whine here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0



wasn't the last sale on EK like two years ago or something?

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 08:55:00 »

You can win via sales in clickclack's threads (once he gets better). Tons of info from the source here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=78.0

A couple times a year elitekeyboards.com has raffles for CHANCE to buy (usually july 4th and halloween).

You can watch ebay and the classifieds.

And you can ***** and whine here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0



wasn't the last sale on EK like two years ago or something?

Nope, there was one in Oct 2014.  :)

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:05:02 »
What you are seeing currently, is the caps that are part of Clackvent. At the beginning of the year, Click Clack started a sale where he gave people seconds, to post in the thread. Then he chose a winner at random. This went on for about 3 months, with various cap values. There were two occasions where many people won a cap, but most were one winner RNGs.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:08:52 »
people with money ruin everything
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:10:43 »
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 14:26:28 »

You can win via sales in clickclack's threads (once he gets better). Tons of info from the source here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=78.0

A couple times a year elitekeyboards.com has raffles for CHANCE to buy (usually july 4th and halloween).

You can watch ebay and the classifieds.

And you can ***** and whine here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45955.0



wasn't the last sale on EK like two years ago or something?

Nope, there was one in Oct 2014.  :)

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 16:26:34 »
CC himself hates premium top prices but a lot of moderators and users pride themselves on selling at high outrageous prices..it's messed up

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 16:46:40 »

CC himself hates premium top prices but a lot of moderators and users pride themselves on selling at high outrageous prices..it's messed up

Huh. Please elaborate for us.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 16:47:50 »
I don't think people pride themselves on it but there are definitely some that profit on it.
Like right now I'm selling my 3d topre clack at about market price but only because I accepted it in a trade at about market value. Being an economist I believe a lot in the demand and supply of things and this is one of those times that demand heavily influences the price.

I'd love it for clacks and bros and whatnot to be readily available but the big reason they're so popular and expensive is because they're done by hand. It's unrealistic to expect them to be available readily to any buyer unless they were mass produced and that would just reduce the artistic value greatly

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 16:53:31 »
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 23 August 2015, 17:53:04 »
What I hate is that cc finally made more candy corns in the last EK sale. I was stoked that maybe the price would go down finally or I could get one at retail. But it was the opposite. The price went up.. :/ I've bought them at after market and sold at aftermarket. I got one clack at retail and sold it at retail. Black ogre! Sick cap.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 03:01:26 »
oh now i know whats the deal with cc keycaps ty bro

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:20:23 »
I guess the value of any object lies in the eyes of the beholder, and the more beholders there are the higher the value's likely to climb.

Case in point:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/02/07/384519464/gauguin-painting-reportedly-fetches-record-300-million
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:51:16 »
they are uber pro, like lamborghini and ferrari versus fiat panda.
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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:41:06 »
they are uber pro, like lamborghini and ferrari versus fiat panda.
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:07:23 »
THEY ARE NOT WORTH MUCH!  SELL ONE TO ME NOW!

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 26 August 2015, 05:41:08 »
Is there a sticky for this?

Anyways, think of clacks and artisans keycaps in the same way that some women ogle over purses and shoes.  It's the just the keyboard geek version of shoes.
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 26 August 2015, 12:04:33 »
Is there a sticky for this?

Anyways, think of clacks and artisans keycaps in the same way that some women ogle over purses and shoes.  It's the just the keyboard geek version of shoes.

there are some keyboard geeks here for whom shoes are still the keyboard geek version of shoes... male too!

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 27 August 2015, 08:21:13 »
CC's are to VIM caps like GMK are to OEM for your KBT, KÛL, GON, KMAC or whatever.
Some would say that they're like PBT to ABS, but I reckon if it's GMK ABS or SP's SA ABS it's better than OEM PBT, so YMMV.
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 27 August 2015, 08:33:02 »
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 28 August 2015, 11:21:12 »
they are uber pro, like lamborghini and ferrari versus fiat panda.
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 30 August 2015, 07:47:35 »
CC himself hates premium top prices but a lot of moderators and users pride themselves on selling at high outrageous prices..it's messed up

Sell to me at Walmart prices!

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 30 August 2015, 08:00:53 »

CC himself hates premium top prices but a lot of moderators and users pride themselves on selling at high outrageous prices..it's messed up

Sell to me at Walmart prices!

That's the funny bit - dubsgalore is one of the people that sells at outrageous prices.  :))

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 30 August 2015, 17:22:02 »
Well, I'll take original prices from anyone!

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 04:59:39 »
THEY ARE NOT WORTH MUCH!  SELL ONE TO ME NOW!

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Is there a sticky for this?

Anyways, think of clacks and artisans keycaps in the same way that some women ogle over purses and shoes.  It's the just the keyboard geek version of shoes.

This is exactly it. Some people will pay thousands for fountain pens. Some people will pay hundreds for small bits of plastic. Niche market and one of the kind stuff

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 10:13:18 »
It's true. Value is based on what people will pay for it, even if it's just plastic. I like to see it similar to a painting. Someone put a lot of time and effort to express themselves and I think it is worth the high prices they are valued at (even if they are much, much cheaper to begin with).

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 10:14:49 »
Is there a sticky for this?

Anyways, think of clacks and artisans keycaps in the same way that some women ogle over purses and shoes.  It's the just the keyboard geek version of shoes.

there are some keyboard geeks here for whom shoes are still the keyboard geek version of shoes... male too!

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 12:54:53 »
Is there a sticky for this?

Anyways, think of clacks and artisans keycaps in the same way that some women ogle over purses and shoes.  It's the just the keyboard geek version of shoes.

there are some keyboard geeks here for whom shoes are still the keyboard geek version of shoes... male too!

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 05:06:56 »
gunna hunt for some clack, and damn its hard to get one

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:26:31 »

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:28:09 »
Please excuse this comparison for anything other than pricing reasons...

A lot of the artisan keycap pricing reminds me of beanie babies. It just doesn't make any sense. People go crazy over something that's rare, even if it is made out of 10 cents of material.</logic mode>

Having said that, the heart wants what the heart wants, and some of the artisan keycaps are really cool looking. $150 cool? Well, that just depends on the person. But I'm a firm believer in making something yours, and if that means putting a Bro in place of Escape, or a CC in place of Numlock, then more power to you.

For others, just changing the keyset to a different color is enough, and that's cool too. I think its human nature to want something a little bit unique.

  
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 09:51:48 »
Beanie Babies were something a little different though because they were a stand-alone item, this is more like cosmetics in video games where it's attached to the popularity/longevity of the game (even then that's not quite accurate because artisan keycap supply is more finite). Also, because artisan keycap makers typically engage in the same space (GH/mk) as the "consumer",  there's an emotional component involved as well, and for the foreseeable future the elements of that are the only real thing that could collapse that maker's market (ie. the maker's community attachment turning negative, or the community they engage in itself dies).

I will say, that as someone whose grandmother was addicted to the Beanie Baby fad, I recommend that anyone that involves themselves in collecting any sort of non-necessity (ie. artisans), stop yourself and reflect on your situation. Ask yourself why you do it, think about what sacrifices you have made/will make to build your collection, and figure out what your long-term goal with it is/if you'll still appreciate it should your situation change. In general, it's certainly not "wrong" to be a collector of something, but it is very easy to get caught up in hobbies like this that have grown social and persuade yourself into spending time/money on it that you realistically shouldn't be for the "wrong" reasons.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 10:53:43 »
I will say, that as someone whose grandmother was addicted to the Beanie Baby fad, I recommend that anyone that involves themselves in collecting any sort of non-necessity (ie. artisans), stop yourself and reflect on your situation. Ask yourself why you do it, think about what sacrifices you have made/will make to build your collection, and figure out what your long-term goal with it is/if you'll still appreciate it should your situation change. In general, it's certainly not "wrong" to be a collector of something, but it is very easy to get caught up in hobbies like this that have grown social and persuade yourself into spending time/money on it that you realistically shouldn't be for the "wrong" reasons.

This is some really good advice, not just for artisan caps.
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 11:01:08 »
I will say, that as someone whose grandmother was addicted to the Beanie Baby fad, I recommend that anyone that involves themselves in collecting any sort of non-necessity (ie. artisans), stop yourself and reflect on your situation. Ask yourself why you do it, think about what sacrifices you have made/will make to build your collection, and figure out what your long-term goal with it is/if you'll still appreciate it should your situation change. In general, it's certainly not "wrong" to be a collector of something, but it is very easy to get caught up in hobbies like this that have grown social and persuade yourself into spending time/money on it that you realistically shouldn't be for the "wrong" reasons.

This is some really good advice, not just for artisan caps.

+1

As a person with a natural "collecting" impulse, this is something I've been trying to be more mindful of recently.  It basically requires constant reminding of myself though - it's not easy!  :))

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 11:11:21 »
I will say, that as someone whose grandmother was addicted to the Beanie Baby fad, I recommend that anyone that involves themselves in collecting any sort of non-necessity (ie. artisans), stop yourself and reflect on your situation. Ask yourself why you do it, think about what sacrifices you have made/will make to build your collection, and figure out what your long-term goal with it is/if you'll still appreciate it should your situation change. In general, it's certainly not "wrong" to be a collector of something, but it is very easy to get caught up in hobbies like this that have grown social and persuade yourself into spending time/money on it that you realistically shouldn't be for the "wrong" reasons.

This is some really good advice, not just for artisan caps.


It really is. This hobby has been much more enjoyable since I've offloaded a bunch of stuff and just focused on a couple of things I really enjoy. After a while I realised I was spending way too much time constantly checking heaps of GB's and spending heaps of money because I was scared of missing out on something that I'd be able to pick up later via the second hand market. I'm down to two keyboards, four Cherry sets, couple of Brobots and a six Clacks and I don't really want for much else. This is down from five keyboards, seven cherry sets and about fifteen artisans.
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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 13:58:50 »
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I will say, that as someone whose grandmother was addicted to the Beanie Baby fad, I recommend that anyone that involves themselves in collecting any sort of non-necessity (ie. artisans), stop yourself and reflect on your situation. Ask yourself why you do it, think about what sacrifices you have made/will make to build your collection, and figure out what your long-term goal with it is/if you'll still appreciate it should your situation change. In general, it's certainly not "wrong" to be a collector of something, but it is very easy to get caught up in hobbies like this that have grown social and persuade yourself into spending time/money on it that you realistically shouldn't be for the "wrong" reasons.

This is some really good advice, not just for artisan caps.

+1

As a person with a natural "collecting" impulse, this is something I've been trying to be more mindful of recently.  It basically requires constant reminding of myself though - it's not easy!  :))
Fortunately in most cases, collecting is pretty harmless, so it affords all of us with that natural impulse the time to understand/cultivate our own motives for collecting certain things (at which point rational thought can overtake impulse and most of us will "taper off" the habit). It's definitely a struggle though (I know I almost started to walk down the path of building a $500+ HHKB JP yesterday), but I've found writing out all of your priorities/objectives and reviewing them regularly really slows things down and helps you maintain control. And I'm hoping in time, for me, that methodical approach will become conditioned enough that it overtakes my innate inclination to own a bunch of **** I won't use/appreciate.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:03:53 »
Mo money mo problems
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Offline saturnotaku

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 14:09:13 »
I will say, that as someone whose grandmother was addicted to the Beanie Baby fad, I recommend that anyone that involves themselves in collecting any sort of non-necessity (ie. artisans), stop yourself and reflect on your situation. Ask yourself why you do it, think about what sacrifices you have made/will make to build your collection, and figure out what your long-term goal with it is/if you'll still appreciate it should your situation change. In general, it's certainly not "wrong" to be a collector of something, but it is very easy to get caught up in hobbies like this that have grown social and persuade yourself into spending time/money on it that you realistically shouldn't be for the "wrong" reasons.

I wish this forum had a "like" system in place because I would do that about a million times for this post. I bought a CC a while back. It was cool to look at for a few weeks, but I realized that it just wasn't my thing and sold it (at a considerable loss) to someone who would appreciate it more. I'd rather spend that money trying entire boards or cap sets than on just individual keys. They're just not for me.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 20:26:52 »
Mo money mo problems
This is so true. I remember how care free we were when we were just starting out. Didn't have anything, didn't care.

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 21:49:42 »
I've realized my error the moment I was willing to drop $200 for a CC skull a year ago. Since then, I've pulled a hard handbrake and told myself that I will only go for retail price and through trade. While the FOMO beast is still wild within me, I'm able to contain it much more and I've found peace just enjoying other people photos and admiring what I have on hands. And I count my blessing that I was able to start a meager collection much earlier in the game. At the prices these days, it is only a game for the rich or crazy ones.
 

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 22:21:18 »
Epeen.
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Offline raymogi

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 22:29:01 »
I've realized my error the moment I was willing to drop $200 for a CC skull a year ago. Since then, I've pulled a hard handbrake and told myself that I will only go for retail price and through trade. While the FOMO beast is still wild within me, I'm able to contain it much more and I've found peace just enjoying other people photos and admiring what I have on hands. And I count my blessing that I was able to start a meager collection much earlier in the game. At the prices these days, it is only a game for the rich or crazy ones.

I was that exact person a month ago. I would drop ****load of cash on Bros or Clacks on a daily basis. While I did buy some at outrageous price (and still might do on some particular pieces that I really like), I'm taking it slow now. I think that's the other aspect of this hobby too, to enjoy what you have and take it slow.

I actually saved pictures of other people's collection, and those nicely taken picture of the single cap that I really like on the keyboard.
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Offline demik

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Re: Whats the deal with CC and other Artisan Keycaps
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 05 September 2015, 01:10:48 »
what you need to know about artisan caps is half the users are shady ****s that complain about high prices then go to PMs and sell at high prices. don't believe anybody that says "oh i'd never sell this"

because even the most self righteous have a price.
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