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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #250 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:35:10 »
Jointer accident.

I will keep this up for 2 days for the curious but, honestly, don't look if you have a weak stomach.  https://www.flickr.com/gp/kurplop/tq2A5C

It's the last picture in the album.

Wow. I am sorry man. That looks miserable.

How are you doing now?

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #251 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:38:09 »
Jointer accident.

I will keep this up for 2 days for the curious but, honestly, don't look if you have a weak stomach.  https://www.flickr.com/gp/kurplop/tq2A5C

It's the last picture in the album.

Holy **** that picture is horrible. How are things looking now kurplop?! Don't worry about the keyboard, just focus on recovering.


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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #252 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 21:35:12 »
So far I haven't been in pain. Actually, I'm feeling pretty good. I guess having numb hands is finally coming in handy.

I consider myself fortunate. Except for one finger missing its last bone, I should be fully functional in a few weeks. Sure I will be horribly disfigured but having sired all the children I intend to, I don't care so much that women will turn away in abject disgust.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #253 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 21:38:10 »
So far I haven't been in pain. Actually, I'm feeling pretty good. I guess having numb hands is finally coming in handy.

I consider myself fortunate. Except for one finger missing its last bone, I should be fully functional in a few weeks. Sure I will be horribly disfigured but having sired all the children I intend to, I don't care so much that women will turn away in abject disgust.

Once that heals up it will be tough to tell anything is wrong at all.

My grandfather's pinky is broken at a right angle away from his other fingers. It is definitely much more gruesome.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #254 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:10:21 »
I agree. I have a friend that had a couple of fingers reattached and one never regained function. It was just there flopping around getting in the way so they ended up amputating it as well as the corresponding bones in his hand. His hand looks very natural in spite of the missing finger.

On a positive note, I should save 10% on manicures.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #255 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:11:46 »
Damn that sounds awful.

Looking on the brightside. Nice.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #256 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:25:36 »
If you don't mind me asking kurplop, how did it happen.  If you don't want to answer at all or just not in public I understand.
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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #257 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:31:59 »
Dang kurplop :(
 This is unfortunate I hope you have a speedy recovery.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #258 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 23:59:22 »
Thanks everyone for your concern. Oddly enough, I have had very little pain and I'm not even down about it. Probably more of a professional embarrassment than anything. I was surfacing a too short and wide board through a jointer. The depth of cut was deeper than I thought and it grabbed, shot the board out the back, and my hand, which was pushing down over the outfeed table, curled back and down into the blades.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #259 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 00:39:51 »
Jointer accident.

I will keep this up for 2 days for the curious but, honestly, don't look if you have a weak stomach.  https://www.flickr.com/gp/kurplop/tq2A5C

It's the last picture in the album.
Duuuuuuuuude ! :'( So sorry for you. Wishing you heal perfectly.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #260 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 21:54:01 »
Oddly enough, I have had very little pain and I'm not even down about it.

Funny, this is how I remember feeling as well. But watching it happen to someone else makes it seem like a way bigger deal. Granted, you've got 3 injured fingers versus my one, but even so... you just kind of realize, "well there's no getting them back, so no point in dwelling on it."

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #261 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 22:42:18 »
Jointer accident.

I will keep this up for 2 days for the curious but, honestly, don't look if you have a weak stomach.  https://www.flickr.com/gp/kurplop/tq2A5C

It's the last picture in the album.
Duuuuuuuuude ! :'( So sorry for you. Wishing you heal perfectly.

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Thanks S1llyC0ne

Oddly enough, I have had very little pain and I'm not even down about it.

Funny, this is how I remember feeling as well. But watching it happen to someone else makes it seem like a way bigger deal. Granted, you've got 3 injured fingers versus my one, but even so... you just kind of realize, "well there's no getting them back, so no point in dwelling on it."

Well said. I think that as we experience more of life we realize that things are rarely as bad, or as good, as they seem. Who knows? Maybe if I can't do my work I'll be forced to finish up the Planet 6.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #262 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 22:45:03 »
By the way. The graphic picture comes down tomorrow so all of you gawkers need to get your final peeps soon.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #263 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 23:43:54 »
Oh my. Didn't expect something like that when I decided to check up on the thread of my favorite keyboard builder. Great to see you're in good humor about it. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery.
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« Reply #264 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 05:00:06 »
Thanks Larken. The things I have to do to get your attention. :eek:

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #265 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 12:01:13 »
Narsty.

On the other hand, with 2 fingers down, that's 20% less keys left to machine..

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #266 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 13:07:26 »
Narsty.

On the other hand, with 2 fingers down, that's 20% less keys left to machine..
On the other hand he still has all five fingers.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #267 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 14:45:47 »
When things heal up I think that my ring finger will be the the only vestigial one. I think I'll just try to avoid words with W, S, and X and numbers with 2 in them. I guess I also use my ring finger for 1 and Q as well. This could seriously limit my vocabulary and cyphering abilities.

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« Reply #268 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 14:52:36 »
Accident scene findings– It looks like my jointer's depth lock wasn't fully tight and it allowed the cut to go deeper as I fed the wood through. That explains why it grabbed the wood and shot it back. Still my fault for not checking.

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« Reply #269 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 15:06:46 »
Accident scene findings– It looks like my jointer's depth lock wasn't fully tight and it allowed the cut to go deeper as I fed the wood through. That explains why it grabbed the wood and shot it back. Still my fault for not checking.
Don't blame yourself, kurplop, this is no time for finger pointing (hahaha!)

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #270 on: Wed, 27 April 2016, 15:10:08 »
Accident scene findings– It looks like my jointer's depth lock wasn't fully tight and it allowed the cut to go deeper as I fed the wood through. That explains why it grabbed the wood and shot it back. Still my fault for not checking.
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« Reply #271 on: Fri, 29 April 2016, 19:09:47 »
That really sucks. Mistakes are impossible to avoid in their entirety, but it's not like you just dropped a miter saw down on your hand like a total idiot. I wish I had seen the graphic pic as a reminder to stay sharp when near rapidly spinning objects.

Hard to tell from the x-ray how bad it is, but I don't think you'll let this keep you from doing what you want to do. You coulda lost an arm and you'd still be doing circles around everybody here with your woodworking and manual milling. Just keep making stuff!

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« Reply #272 on: Sat, 30 April 2016, 07:30:59 »
That really sucks. Mistakes are impossible to avoid in their entirety, but it's not like you just dropped a miter saw down on your hand like a total idiot. I wish I had seen the graphic pic as a reminder to stay sharp when near rapidly spinning objects.

Hard to tell from the x-ray how bad it is, but I don't think you'll let this keep you from doing what you want to do. You coulda lost an arm and you'd still be doing circles around everybody here with your woodworking and manual milling. Just keep making stuff!



Thanks for your empathy and complements. I've PM'd you about the picture.

I don't know how many months like this April I can survive. Earlier this month somebody stole my $8,000 dump trailer and now this! Oddly enough, I've taken it all in stride. I honestly think that my friends are more troubled by my circumstances than I've been. I've truly been blessed. Blessed enough to not think about locking up a trailer in my driveway because I've rarely had anything stolen. Blessed that I've handled dangerous tools for over 40 years without a serious accident. Blessed that the injury wasn't on my dominant hand and it didn't affect my thumb and forefinger. The pain was so minimal that, except for the Lidocaine during the surgery, I haven't needed any pain meds.

The doctor told me that things are healing very fast and I anticipate being back to work soon.

Thanks again everyone, for your concern and good wishes.

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« Reply #273 on: Sat, 30 April 2016, 08:18:45 »
omg i'm sorry

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« Reply #274 on: Sun, 01 May 2016, 01:43:09 »
I don't know how many months like this April I can survive.
From the rest of what you wrote, I'd say "loads".  Having stuff ripped off sucks, though.  Bah.

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« Reply #275 on: Sun, 01 May 2016, 08:24:27 »
Now would be a good time to up your foot input game, Kurp. Yesterday I put a joystick underneath my right foot, bound to my arrow keys. I'm liking it.

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« Reply #276 on: Sun, 08 May 2016, 09:50:34 »
Now would be a good time to up your foot input game, Kurp. Yesterday I put a joystick underneath my right foot, bound to my arrow keys. I'm liking it.
I. Just. Oh my God. That's such a good idea. What sort of joystick?

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« Reply #277 on: Mon, 09 May 2016, 10:33:44 »
I went with this http://www.amazon.com/Competition-Switchable-operation-Elliptical-RetroArcade-us/dp/B00EM34ZN4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage and it's held up to my moderate abuse thus far. The first thing to fail would be the switches, which are easily replaced with higher quality ones if necessary.

It's definitely not a silver bullet. You don't have nearly the motor skills in your feet/toes as you do with fingers, making successive rapid taps very difficult. I found that having the joystick be parallel to the ground as opposed to vertical helps in that regard, allowing for me to push and pull with a gas pedal motion for up/down so I can keep my heel planted on a rest.

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« Reply #278 on: Wed, 11 May 2016, 11:09:06 »
Now would be a good time to up your foot input game, Kurp. Yesterday I put a joystick underneath my right foot, bound to my arrow keys. I'm liking it.
I. Just. Oh my God. That's such a good idea. What sort of joystick?

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It's nice to know that there are options out there if I chop off anything else. For now though, I think that a modified finger style will be adequate.

I spent the last week flying to Pennsylvania, renting a box van, picking up my mother and her stuff, and driving back to California. We had a chance to spend a couple days with my oldest daughter's family in Texas, which was a lot of fun.

 When their middle son heard of my accident he made this drawing.
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His drawing style is typical buggy 4 year old, but note the insight in providing me with a a mild grimace. Notice also the implied rigor mortis in the legs overhanging the table.

A picture of me and my budding young artist at The Salt Lick Co..
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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #279 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 21:36:57 »
Things are beginning to settle down some with my work and personal life and I hope to get back to work on this keyboard soon. I'm already allowing myself to plan and dream about the next steps. I've been experimenting with different etching techniques as well as trying to modify the key assignments to work better with my new limitations. I strongly doubt that I will ever use my ring finger and possibly also my middle finger (for typing) because of the shape of the partial amputations and the very confused sensory nerves at the fingertips.

I hope my extended hiatus hasn't caused some of you Planet 6 followers to tune out. I have greatly appreciated your past suggestions, comments and encouragement.
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« Reply #280 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 21:52:41 »
Things are beginning to settle down some with my work and personal life and I hope to get back to work on this keyboard soon. I'm already allowing myself to plan and dream about the next steps. I've been experimenting with different etching techniques as well as trying to modify the key assignments to work better with my new limitations. I strongly doubt that I will ever to use my ring finger and possibly also my middle finger (for typing) because of the shape of the partial amputations and the very confused sensory nerves at the fingertips.

I hope my extended hiatus hasn't caused some of you Planet 6 followers to tune out. I have greatly appreciated your past suggestions, comments and encouragement.

Looking forward to seeing where this ends up! Hope the healing process is going well!

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« Reply #281 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 02:10:49 »
Still there to see how your project progresses ! Also wishing that your doubts will be replaced by surprises.

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« Reply #282 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 08:32:14 »
Thanks guys. The wounds are all healed visually but there is still a lot going on inside. I still have some swelling in all three fingers which slightly restrict being able to fully close the hand without some discomfort. Also, all three fingertips have a strange sensation of numbness and hyper-sensitivity which makes typing with all three injured fingers difficult.
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The picture is to show an unexpected problem I'm encountering while typing. The ring finger's short reach makes its use impractical but its extra width further complicates it. What I am surprised by is how the angled tips of the other 2 fingers add width to their typing "footprint", adding  further to the clumsiness of my typing experience. I'm currently using my thumb and index finger primarily and beginning to implement the little finger.

Also wishing that your doubts will be replaced by surprises.

I think that wish captures how I feel. Life was getting a little too easy and I'm looking forward to the challenges and opportunities that this turn of events will present. When one of my granddaughters was born with achondroplasia (a type of dwarfism), we were all initially shocked and, quite honestly, disappointed. It didn't take long to see how she has enriched our lives. Yes, she will have physical complications including projected surgeries and various therapies but she is a delight and her condition has opened up a whole new world to our family. One can only imagine what a few mangled fingers will lead to!


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« Reply #283 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 04:04:32 »
The picture is to show an unexpected problem I'm encountering while typing. The ring finger's short reach makes its use impractical but its extra width further complicates it. What I am surprised by is how the angled tips of the other 2 fingers add width to their typing "footprint", adding  further to the clumsiness of my typing experience. I'm currently using my thumb and index finger primarily and beginning to implement the little finger.

Do you think a fingertip prosthesis could make a useful difference regarding the short reach? I'm assuming it is an inconvenience not only when it comes to typing. 3D printing can do a lot for cheaps these days.

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« Reply #284 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 16:23:43 »
Sorry to see you've been injured, kurplop :(  but I am glad you are healing.

I wouldn't take the time to chime in on this thread, but it occurred to me to point out that your new, custom finger length might be suited to a drastically different size of keycap on a row that is offset in a way that looks odd but works well for the one hand.  Smaller (visually short/wide as seen from the top) caps might allow the switches to be fit a little closer together if you need them so.  You might also experiment with different cap heights and the angle of that one finger's worth of keys, to suit the different arc the tip of the finger will naturally make as it moves.  A bit of modeling clay on a regular keyboard might be a useful step in finding out if taller caps are useful.

Since you are making your own caps, it may also be worthwhile to cut the tops to suit your new fingertip shape a little better. 
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« Reply #285 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 16:51:31 »
The picture is to show an unexpected problem I'm encountering while typing. The ring finger's short reach makes its use impractical but its extra width further complicates it. What I am surprised by is how the angled tips of the other 2 fingers add width to their typing "footprint", adding  further to the clumsiness of my typing experience. I'm currently using my thumb and index finger primarily and beginning to implement the little finger.

Do you think a fingertip prosthesis could make a useful difference regarding the short reach? I'm assuming it is an inconvenience not only when it comes to typing. 3D printing can do a lot for cheaps these days.
I wonder if the Tony Iommi case could be inspiring in this case.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #286 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:39:12 »
Do you think a fingertip prosthesis could make a useful difference regarding the short reach? I'm assuming it is an inconvenience not only when it comes to typing. 3D printing can do a lot for cheaps these days.

Interesting idea. I may consider that at some point. I do have an aversion to wearing anything like watches, rings, etc., for some reason they drive me nuts. Because of that I will probably exhaust other options first. Oddly enough, my abbreviated limbs haven't really affected most of my work.

VoteForDavid– I have considered different sized keys but that would pretty much take P6 back to the drawing board. Your idea for the different shaped caps is an interesting possibility. It wouldn't change the key placement and could be easily be taken back to stock if desired. I may eventually try that. Right now the lack of accurate sensory input from the affected fingers keeps me from using them much. If and when things normalize I may give it a try.

S1llyC0ne–  WOW! Not being a big rock fan, I had to look up Tony Lommi. His story is quite an inspiration. Lost the same tips on his non-dominant hand in a sheetmetal accident and didn't let it stop what he loved to do. It reminds me of a story an old customer told me about many years before when he was a shop steward for the sheet metal company. At the Union Hall 20 stewards would be sitting around the table. Between them about 140 fingers on the table.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #287 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 21:57:04 »
I'm going out to the shop and transfer these onto a scrap of aluminum and try some etching. I tried the other day but the mask failed in spots. I'm trying various etchants and will report back with my failures and (hopefully) at least one success.
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My first attempt. I wasn't expecting much because the toner was on regular bond paper. It didn't seem to transfer all of the toner onto the aluminum leaving voids which pitted. I tried to sand out the pits which proved to be as deep as the letters.
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At least I can almost guarantee better results next time.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #288 on: Wed, 20 July 2016, 00:32:42 »
Here are the results of my second test. Much better than the first but still a long way to go.
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The offset of the A and N during the second burn was unintended but creates a shadow effect that may be desirable.
I still have to work on better masking and better regulating on the etch depth. I'd like it deeper but too deep may compromise the edge quality.

More tests to come.

By the way. This exercise isn't directly speeding up the completion of the keyboard, but until I can spend some uninterrupted time in the shop I don't want to do any further milling on the keyboard itself. Just too confusing doing a half hour here and there. Should be able to take a few weeks off in August and I hope to make a lot of progress.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #289 on: Wed, 20 July 2016, 02:07:25 »
Wow ! Great improvement indeed !

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #290 on: Wed, 20 July 2016, 22:41:27 »
Wow ! Great improvement indeed !

Thanks. I think that the rough sanding contributed to the etchant seeping through the edges. The next step will be to try sanding up to about 1000 grit before masking. I also need to add location marks to the masking prints to properly index the mask layers.

One challenge I'll have is to transfer the toner mask to a slightly curved surface since I use a flat iron to transfer the toner from the paper to the aluminum.

Here's a little behind the scene sizzle as I etched the '6' into the aluminum. CAUTION! Do not enlarge this picture without goggles and a respirator.
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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #291 on: Wed, 27 July 2016, 21:50:10 »
A few more tests. I forgot to reverse the images and by the time I realized it I was already in the shop. I figured, it's just another experiment so why not just use them.
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You know that the etchant is working when it is bubbling up from the exposed aluminum.
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It helps to keep fresh chemicals at the place where it is doing the work. I was using this brush to do this until it ran out of bristles.
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I made the new image roughly half the size as the last. I sanded the surface to 320 grit but I'm still not satisfied with the edge quality and the pitting in the field. It is even more apparent with the smaller size. I may have the copies run on a better printer; my toner isn't producing a very heavy mask. The second burn which adds the 6 and creates the shadow is still a bit difficult to place right. I added some indexing marks but is still unpredictable.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #292 on: Wed, 27 July 2016, 22:02:36 »
Sooooooo happy to see this project back and with etching porn this time <3. Glad you're healing up kurplop. Can't wait to see how you tweak your design to fit your new hand!

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #293 on: Thu, 28 July 2016, 01:45:20 »
The masks were reversed but boy does the result look good ! I am really impressed (^o^)

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #294 on: Thu, 28 July 2016, 03:12:50 »
RIP paintbrush :))

Noticeable improvement after sanding but I get the feeling you won't be stopping until it's perfect - however long it takes it will be worth it!
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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #295 on: Thu, 28 July 2016, 23:05:19 »
Thanks for the encouragement. I think that some of the unwanted pitting is from over-exposing the aluminum. I intentionally let it burn extra deep, partly to see the effect and also (because it's a negative image) to see of I can make a stamp for embossing other things.

I assume that when etching deep, it will eventually burn under the mask as the sides are exposed, making precise deep etchings more difficult.

I hope to do a few more tests, this time recording exposure times and exact blends of water and sodium hydroxide. After that, I'll anodize and dye the samples to get an idea of how the finished product will look.

I would encourage others to try etching aluminum. All it takes is a piece of aluminum, drain cleaner, and a laser print of what you want to etch. Surprisingly easy and cheap.

RIP paintbrush :))

Noticeable improvement after sanding but I get the feeling you won't be stopping until it's perfect - however long it takes it will be worth it!

I'm not that much of a perfectionist. I'll probably settle for the best technique I come up with after the next few tries. I'm actually happy with how it looks now without magnification. The close up pictures reveal every flaw; definitely won't stand up to GH scrutiny.

Next I'll try sanding to an even higher grit but I think the problems now have more to do with inferior laser prints.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #296 on: Sun, 31 July 2016, 14:21:02 »
Love the etching progress. That is something I will have to consider since, as you say, it doesn't take much and the results look promising. Good stuff.


P.S. I'm shooting you an e-mail now. I need some advice on purchasing finger-chomping machinery.

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« Reply #297 on: Sun, 31 July 2016, 16:41:06 »
Love the etching progress. That is something I will have to consider since, as you say, it doesn't take much and the results look promising. Good stuff.

Thanks. I'm glad to see someone considering etching something. We'll have to compare notes when you get around to it.
P.S. I'm shooting you an e-mail now. I need some advice on purchasing finger-chomping machinery.


Ha. As far as the machinery goes. It really depends on whether you want any sizable souvenir keepsakes. I used a jointer which yielded about 10- 3/32" slices; by the time they dried out there wasn't much to see but it left a very clean cut as the photo showed. A tablesaw or bandsaw would have left something worth hanging from a necklace or keychain. Now that would be a conversation starter!  Seriously though, I should have time this evening to e-mail you my recommendations.

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Re: Planet 6 - The start of a new keyboard by kurplop
« Reply #298 on: Mon, 01 August 2016, 02:04:16 »
The primary use would actually be for wood in my case. Leaning toward some grizzly stuff, straight out of china.

My ETA on etching is about 2 years =/
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« Reply #299 on: Mon, 01 August 2016, 07:31:45 »
With the new fixer-upper I suspected that the keyboard projects will be put on the back-burner for a while. Grizzly is a good choice; great value for pretty good quality. The only better alternative might be used equipment from Craig's list, etc., it just depends on how quick you need it. E-mail still coming, I just have a big deadline this week