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Clueboard 66% PCB - Pre-soldered Underlight Available!
« on: Sun, 15 November 2015, 23:13:38 »
The Clueboard 66% PCB started as my project to create a custom PCB for the fc660m. It fits perfectly into both the fc660m case and the aluminum case from massdrop. However, it supports so much more than the fc660m. It is available now! Order here:

https://clueboard.co/parts/clueboard-66-pcb

https://clueboard.co/parts/clueboard-66-pcb-version-20

Here's an overview of all the layouts it currently supports:



The PCB is fully programmable with QMK and it is officially part of the main QMK branch:

https://github.com/jackhumbert/qmk_firmware

New Feature: Underlighting!

Now you can make your keyboard glow with the fury of 14 suns. Simply solder on 14 WS2812B LED's and you can light up your desk.



Please feel free to ask any questions or provide any feedback you may have in this thread.
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 19 November 2015, 20:52:23 »
This looks like a very cool project. I'm looking forward to seeing how you plan to sell it.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 19 November 2015, 21:17:05 »
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 19 November 2015, 21:30:13 »
What about plates?

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 19 November 2015, 22:40:36 »
I think I saw this on Instagram, I really would like at least one or two. Nice work

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 00:11:42 »
What about plates?
Skully posted this on Reddit 11 days ago, but I'm not sure if it's still valid;

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I'm still working out pricing. Parts for my 66% board will start at around $150 for acrylic plate, acrylic case, pcb, zealios switches and costar stabilizers (everything except for caps and a USB cable) and then assembly will be an additional charge on top of that I have yet to determine, but I want to make it affordable.

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I'll have aluminum plates too but acrylic will be the cheapest way to get one.
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 20 November 2015, 00:33:13 »
What about plates?
Skully posted this on Reddit 11 days ago, but I'm not sure if it's still valid;

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I'm still working out pricing. Parts for my 66% board will start at around $150 for acrylic plate, acrylic case, pcb, zealios switches and costar stabilizers (everything except for caps and a USB cable) and then assembly will be an additional charge on top of that I have yet to determine, but I want to make it affordable.

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I'll have aluminum plates too but acrylic will be the cheapest way to get one.

That's exactly right. I got my first samples back today:



Still waiting on the Alps plates, and I just finished designing the plates that fit the standard fc660m case. Tomorrow I'll laser cut some acrylic to test fit and then submit my order for those plates. I'll also be dropping the plates you see off at the finishing shop where they'll doing the following:

* 5 bead blasted + black anodizing
* 2 polished + blue anodizing
* 2 polished + red anodizing
* 1 polished to a mirror finish

Besides my prototype plates I've been talking to LeandreN about a larger run of plates, which should mean a significant price break.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 21 November 2015, 18:35:29 »
Very interesting!
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 21 November 2015, 18:45:03 »
I don't have an acrylic board yet. This might be a good first one.

What does MX keycap compatibility look like for this layout? Pretty much any set?

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 22 November 2015, 08:15:20 »
I don't have an acrylic board yet. This might be a good first one.

What does MX keycap compatibility look like for this layout? Pretty much any set?

It will depend on the layout you build. For a standard ANSI build pretty much any set with two 2.25u shifts will work. For ISO or JIS it's actually slightly easier because your shifts can be 1.25/2.25.

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 14:09:13 »
This will be a great product.  We have seen this layout before, but not Alps-Compatible or completely programmable.
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 14:14:45 »
Do we know for sure when/if Massdrop will be running that alu case again? Or is it available elsewhere?

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 15:42:29 »
Do we know for sure when/if Massdrop will be running that alu case again? Or is it available elsewhere?

I have a few on hand but I'm hoping to track down the manufacturer.

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 16:14:08 »
Will different versions of the plate be cut for different layout options?
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 17:12:51 »
Will different versions of the plate be cut for different layout options?

The MX plate is universal with PCB mount stabs:



The Alps plate will be ANSI only for now, but if I find some good ISO keysets I'll offer that in an ANSI ISO layout.
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 21:29:58 »
Wow, it took me forever to figure out that layout diagram. It'll be really awesome to have an alps-compatible fc660, really glad you took alps into account, because that's a really big selling point imo. Also will be super nice to have this layout on a fully programmable pcb, because honestly I feel that that little right hand key cluster could be used a bit better (at least in terms of what I use on a daily basis).
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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 28 November 2015, 23:51:23 »
Wow, it took me forever to figure out that layout diagram. It'll be really awesome to have an alps-compatible fc660, really glad you took alps into account, because that's a really big selling point imo. Also will be super nice to have this layout on a fully programmable pcb, because honestly I feel that that little right hand key cluster could be used a bit better (at least in terms of what I use on a daily basis).

I've been trying to figure out a better way to explain the possible layouts. Soon I should have physical examples which I think helps, at least for some people.

I'm glad the alps compatibility is getting so much love. Part of what's driving me here is the idea of having an AEKII-like board with the fc660 layout. I have an AEKII with salmon alps that's going to be turned into a clueboard once I have metal alps plates in hand.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 01 December 2015, 04:22:04 »
Nice work. Lovely to see this form factor get some creative love.
Alps... now that's interesting.
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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 01 December 2015, 15:14:38 »
If this had full led support it would be my endgame
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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 01 December 2015, 18:17:57 »
If this had full led support it would be my endgame

I actually started with fully controllable LED support, but the problem I ran into was too many traces, so I couldn't support PCB mount stabs. I'm working on a version that solves that, but it'll be a few months before that one is ready.   :cool:

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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 01 December 2015, 18:35:49 »
I spent some quality time with the laser cutter today, and finalized the plate design to fit fc660m cases. It took me 7 iterations to get everything aligned just right:



Here's a picture of the 6th iteration, just before I got it right:



The version 1.0 PCB fits into the aluminum case perfectly with very little room for movement. It's actually a little tricky (and kinda scary) to get the PCB seated properly in the case, but once you do it fits very firmly and there is no rattle at all. I have made that hole just a tiny bit bigger for version 1.1.

Now it's time to send these designs off to LeandreN so he can make plates!

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 02 December 2015, 00:20:41 »
If this had full led support it would be my endgame

I actually started with fully controllable LED support, but the problem I ran into was too many traces, so I couldn't support PCB mount stabs. I'm working on a version that solves that, but it'll be a few months before that one is ready.   :cool:

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 05 December 2015, 15:35:41 »
Will you be selling 4u stabilizers separately? They're almost impossible to find.

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 05 December 2015, 18:06:16 »
Will you be selling 4u stabilizers separately? They're almost impossible to find.

On my todo list is building a jig to bend 6.25u stabs. Once I have that going doing 4u stabs as well should be possible.

Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 25 December 2015, 18:06:06 »
Didn't notice you got your own vendor forum!

Just have to give props to SkullY - these boards are great (I have one) though do to my poor planning I had to take it apart and haven't put it back together yet. That being said. SkullY has amazing QC and customer service. EVERYONE SHOULD BE SNAGGING THIS PCB!

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 11:47:07 »
Are all these layouts available for alps boards as well? I'll be using orange alps + caps taken from an Apple Extended Keyboard, and the spacebar is 6,5u on that one. The alps plates does not look like they features multiple layouts!

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:59:22 »
Didn't notice you got your own vendor forum!

Just have to give props to SkullY - these boards are great (I have one) though do to my poor planning I had to take it apart and haven't put it back together yet. That being said. SkullY has amazing QC and customer service. EVERYONE SHOULD BE SNAGGING THIS PCB!

Thanks for your support! I hope you get that put back together soon so you can show it off. Let me know if you need anything when you're ready to put it back together.

Are all these layouts available for alps boards as well? I'll be using orange alps + caps taken from an Apple Extended Keyboard, and the spacebar is 6,5u on that one. The alps plates does not look like they features multiple layouts!

The PCB supports all layouts for both alps and MX, but unfortunately the plate is another matter. Due to the way alps/matias stabilizers work you can't make a plate that supports multiple combinations easily if you need to stabilize keys. I'm working on a way around that problem but it will be a while, if ever, before that gets solved.

However, if you're OK with an acrylic plate I can cut one with any layout you want.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 17:12:51 »
The PCB supports all layouts for both alps and MX, but unfortunately the plate is another matter. Due to the way alps/matias stabilizers work you can't make a plate that supports multiple combinations easily if you need to stabilize keys. I'm working on a way around that problem but it will be a while, if ever, before that gets solved.

However, if you're OK with an acrylic plate I can cut one with any layout you want.

I'd definitelly be down for an acrylic plate if that allows for a custom layout! Now when I think about it... You don't happen to have any left-over monarch pcb's lying around? ;)

Is it looking like the store is coming up soon? I've heard about the troubles around the launch; I hope you'll be able to sort everything out soon!

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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 17:57:03 »
I'd definitelly be down for an acrylic plate if that allows for a custom layout! Now when I think about it... You don't happen to have any left-over monarch pcb's lying around? ;)

Any spares go to koalapear, so you'll have to bug him.  ;)

Is it looking like the store is coming up soon? I've heard about the troubles around the launch; I hope you'll be able to sort everything out soon!

I have the store all configured, I just need to take about 30 more pictures and finish describing everything. I'd like to think that wouldn't take long, but you'd be surprised.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 26 January 2016, 04:44:16 »
I'd definitelly be down for an acrylic plate if that allows for a custom layout! Now when I think about it... You don't happen to have any left-over monarch pcb's lying around? ;)
Any spares go to koalapear, so you'll have to bug him.  ;)
Oh... :(

Is it looking like the store is coming up soon? I've heard about the troubles around the launch; I hope you'll be able to sort everything out soon!

I have the store all configured, I just need to take about 30 more pictures and finish describing everything. I'd like to think that wouldn't take long, but you'd be surprised.

Good luck finish it all up! :) Will you stock alps/ Mx stabs?

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 26 January 2016, 08:36:44 »
Good luck finish it all up! :) Will you stock alps/ Mx stabs?

Thanks!

Yes, I have both pcb and plate mounted cherry stabs, and a bunch of matias stabs.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 26 January 2016, 09:35:04 »
Good luck finish it all up! :) Will you stock alps/ Mx stabs?

Thanks!

Yes, I have both pcb and plate mounted cherry stabs, and a bunch of matias stabs.

Awesome! Will pick up both Alps/ MX stabs for various builds! :) Looking forward to the release!

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 10 February 2016, 01:51:45 »
The Clueboard store is now open and you can buy a Clueboard PCB!

https://shop.clueboard.co/Clueboard-66-PCB.html

Inventory is going faster than I anticipated. I have around a dozen left and because of the spring festival my next shipment won't get here until 3/3 or later.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 13:28:02 »
Sold Out

I'm blown away. These sold out much faster than I thought they would. My second batch of PCB's has been order for a week now, but if you'd like to pre-order you can do so:

https://shop.clueboard.co/Clueboard-66-PCB-Accepting-Pre-orders.html

The first 45 pre-orders get their PCB from the first batch in early March. After that you can expect to receive your board sometime in April. Regular ordering and shipments will continue until I can maintain an inventory level.

People who pre-order will receive a version 2.0 PCB. This PCB supports everything the Clueboard 1.0 PCB supports, with the following new features:

  • New bottom row footprints to enable a wider variety of layouts.
  • LED support for the escape key, so you can light up your artisan esc
  • Improve split shift support, you can do 1.25u/1u or 1u/1.25u on BOTH sides
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 14:00:49 »
Glad I got my order in before they sold out. Love the layout and options available for the keyboard, especially having stabs and keysets. Website was nice to use too!
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 14:26:04 »
Somehow I am very happy right now that I decided to wait. Do you have an image of the new possible layouts?
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 14:26:55 »
Perfect PCB for my dip into the world of Alps.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 15:15:43 »
This is exciting. This PCB allows me to achieve a layout fairly close to my ideal, with a split backspace and split space bar. I'm curious to see the new bottom row options for 2.0  :)

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 15:17:36 »
Somehow I am very happy right now that I decided to wait. Do you have an image of the new possible layouts?

Not yet, I need to put that together. Here's an image of the PCB layout:

http://i.imgur.com/QGucYGA.png

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 15:24:49 »
Thank you! And does the Aluminium case include feet?
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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 15:30:22 »
This is really interesting, can't wait for this to come into fruition with proper pictures!

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 16:16:46 »
Thank you! And does the Aluminium case include feet?

No but I have a couple sets I could let go of. Can't guarantee to match the case color. :)

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 19:24:13 »
Will the 2.0 PCB use SMD or through-hole components.  If it uses SMD, will they come pre-soldered?  Will the 2.0 PCB be compatible with the Cherry MX plates you're currently selling?  I was planning to build my own custom 60% but this comes so close to my ideal layout and will look so much nicer than a hand-wired skeleton case, that I think this will be my next keyboard.  I bought several child sets of Carbon just to get the few keys I would need for my custom layout, but seeing the titanium gray case you have, I find myself wondering what sets I would need to put Nantucket Selectric on this board.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 19:25:58 »
Will the 2.0 PCB use SMD or through-hole components.  If it uses SMD, will they come pre-soldered?  Will the 2.0 PCB be compatible with the Cherry MX plates you're currently selling?  I was planning to build my own custom 60% but this comes so close to my ideal layout and will look so much nicer than a hand-wired skeleton case, that I think this will be my next keyboard.  I bought several child sets of Carbon just to get the few keys I would need for my custom layout, but seeing the titanium gray case you have, I find myself wondering what sets I would need to put Nantucket Selectric on this board.
All the components, apart from switches are pre-soldered.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 19:33:40 »
Will the 2.0 PCB use SMD or through-hole components.  If it uses SMD, will they come pre-soldered?  Will the 2.0 PCB be compatible with the Cherry MX plates you're currently selling?  I was planning to build my own custom 60% but this comes so close to my ideal layout and will look so much nicer than a hand-wired skeleton case, that I think this will be my next keyboard.  I bought several child sets of Carbon just to get the few keys I would need for my custom layout, but seeing the titanium gray case you have, I find myself wondering what sets I would need to put Nantucket Selectric on this board.

As joey said all the smd components are pre-soldered. The 2.0 PCB is compatible, but there will be new plates coming that support the additional layout options as well. Some of them are already supported by the current plate (like the split shift) but some of the bottom row configurations are not currently supported in the plate.

If you want one of those titanium grey cases you better order soon, there are only 2 left in stock. :)

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 20:11:56 »
If you want one of those titanium grey cases you better order soon, there are only 2 left in stock. :)

That is unfortunate.  Will you have more cases in stock by the time the 2.0 PCBs become available?  The Nantucket Selectric group buy ends this week.  If I don't buy the case, I won't have anything to put my keyboard in.  If I don't buy the caps, I may have to suffer with the awful stock Ducky Shine keycaps on my home board for 6 months or more. 

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And does the split spacebar layout support both PCB-mount and plate mount stabs?
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 21:30:17 »
If you want one of those titanium grey cases you better order soon, there are only 2 left in stock. :)

That is unfortunate.  Will you have more cases in stock by the time the 2.0 PCBs become available?  The Nantucket Selectric group buy ends this week.  If I don't buy the case, I won't have anything to put my keyboard in.  If I don't buy the caps, I may have to suffer with the awful stock Ducky Shine keycaps on my home board for 6 months or more. 

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And does the split spacebar layout support both PCB-mount and plate mount stabs?

If I can track down the manufacturer, or massdrop does another run, I will get more.

Split spacebar does support PCB mount stabs.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 08:19:53 »
The aluminum case is up on Massdrop again, if anyone is interested.

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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 09:32:26 »
Will the new plate be available with the release of the new pcb? If I place an order to reserve the new pcb, could you switch me to new new plate before dispatching the order?
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Re: Clueboard 66% PCB
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 10:26:21 »
Will the new plate be available with the release of the new pcb? If I place an order to reserve the new pcb, could you switch me to new new plate before dispatching the order?

I'll need some time to develop and have the new plate made. In the meantime if you PM me with the layout you want I can check to see if the current plate supports it, and we can talk about options if it doesn't.